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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
24 Oct 12 UTC
A Diplomacy Game for Literature Lovers?
Well, we've done Star Trek Diplomacy before, each power corresponding to one of the powers from Trek...anyone up for playing a game where each player of a power (we'll say Turkey counts for the whole Middle East to make it easier) takes on the persona of a great author from said country? Ex., Shakespeare/Chaucer/Dickens for England, Hugo/Proust/Racine for France, Goethe for Germany, Dostoyevsky/Tolstoy (not that one!) for Russia, etc...?
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c0llieman (0 DX)
27 Oct 12 UTC
live game
anyone up for a live game
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
24 Oct 12 UTC
The Third Party Presidential Debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EcaX12h46k
Debate starts at 1:02:00
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Mapu (362 D)
26 Oct 12 UTC
Banhammer Thread
aka Another one gone, another one gone, another one bites the dust...

This guy just ruined a game of mine:
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/profile.php?userID=47663
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Fasces349 (0 DX)
26 Oct 12 UTC
Canada's economic problem
So I am an econ major in my first year of university, so obviously I know very little compared to others about economics. However Canada has a rather strange economic problem (which I will explain below) and I think I have a viable solution to solve it. Can some of the greats on this site explain why my solution wont work (as why isn't it on the table as a solution)
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krellin (80 DX)
26 Oct 12 UTC
Fed Spends 2.5*Poverty PER Pov Household
Ahhh...Government efficiency at its finest. Read it an weep. No...really...you should honestly weep at this.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/over-60000-welfare-spentper-household-poverty_657889.html
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Puddle (413 D)
24 Oct 12 UTC
Genie
You come across a genie, and you get one wish, assume that the genie will properly carry out your wish, not malicious misunderstand the intent. Only rule is no asking for an infinite stream of wishes (or anything that would be tantamount to this).
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umbletheheep (1645 D)
26 Oct 12 UTC
Determine the Election Game
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erist (228 D(B))
26 Oct 12 UTC
Need a replacement Austria
1902. Austria in a fine position with 5 supply centers.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=102520
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
25 Oct 12 UTC
Somebody used the words "poor" and "UK" in one sentence, and then PE posted something
The first thing made me think of Theodore Dalrymple, the second of legalizing drugs. So without further ado, I present to you Theodore Dalrymple on the legalizing of drugs.
http://www.drugfree.org.au/fileadmin/Media/Reference/DontLegalizeDrugs.pdf
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Jamiet99uk (873 D)
26 Oct 12 UTC
I AM KRELLIN
I have a terrible confession to make.
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Puddle (413 D)
24 Oct 12 UTC
If Romney wins the election
What do you think his chances of successfully carrying out proposed policies is? As well as how he'll be forced to govern?
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Jamiet99uk (873 D)
23 Oct 12 UTC
Sustainable development and human happiness
An excellent speech by the President of Uruguay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr465Atwenw
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Tantris (2456 D)
26 Oct 12 UTC
EOG: Gunfall
I thought I had the win, but you got the stalemate line together. When France spooked backwards, it seemed like my win was guaranteed, but then he returned with English fleets as backup. I imagine I missed an opportunity, but I am not sure right now what it was.
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
19 Oct 12 UTC
South Africa
I'm curious what people's opinion about this is. I know mine is a little controversial, I'll post it later, but 99% of you are not going to like what I have to say :(

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21564846-south-africa-sliding-downhill-while-much-rest-continent-clawing-its-way-up
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Conservative Man (100 D)
25 Oct 12 UTC
I'm back
So my opinion on a very important subject has changed. See inside.
semck83 (229 D(B))
25 Oct 12 UTC
Has your opinion on ANY important subject stayed the same? ;-)
ghug (5068 D(B))
25 Oct 12 UTC
These threads are getting really repetitive.
ghug (5068 D(B))
25 Oct 12 UTC
Also type faster.
Since my previous talks with all of you on this fine website, I’ve been doing some thinking. A lot of thinking. As some of you may remember, our previous discussion on here involved the topic of abortion. During this discussion, I asked those who disagreed with my view to not debate with me, and for the most part, you did that quite well. A few of you, however, managed to get in a few thinly-veiled shots at my position, which was then pro-life. Those comments really got me thinking. They were the first true seeds of doubt implanted into my mind about my position on abortion. The following days I was near obsessed with the topic. I couldn’t get it out of my mind. I was experiencing an internal conflict between my preexisting beliefs and what I now know to be undeniable logic. This battle went on and on and on.

One day, as I was out walking, I wasn’t paying attention to the world around me whatsoever. I was thinking about abortion. I passed a woman carrying a baby, going in the opposite direction. Out of nowhere, the little wretch let out a blood-curdling cry, and I was startled out of my reverie. As I quickly looked around me, trying to ascertain exactly how far I had walked, I noticed a car. This car had a bumper sticker. The bumper sticker read, quite simply, “If you don’t like abortion, then don’t have one.” This platitude really resonated with me, and I had an epiphany right then and there. I realized that the bumper sticker was right. I really had no right to enforce my opinions and morality on someone else. I should keep my beliefs to myself, and live my life the way I want, and let others live their lives the way they want. This sudden realization rocked the whole foundation of my life.

I began to apply this mantra to other areas of my life as well. The very next day, for example, I noticed that a friend of mine was cheating off of my paper during a test. Before, I would have covered up my paper so as to not let him cheat, but I now realized that it was his decision to make, not mine, so I pretended not to notice and continued on with my test. About a week later, I noticed a different friend of mine take a couple $20 bills out of our teacher’s desk, when our teacher had left for the bathroom. Previously I would have told the teacher, upon his return, what my friend had done. But now I realized that I had absolutely no right to do this. My friend’s morality might be completely different than mine, and to him, taking that money was probably perfectly fine. So I said nothing.

That same day, as I was walking home from school, I heard the sounds of a struggle from an alley nearby. I calmly walked over to peer in, and I saw a high school boy, about my age, raping a girl of about the same age. I felt rather sorry for the girl, and before my epiphany I would have done something to help, but then I realized that that just was not my place. There are many sides to one story, and I certainly didn’t know the whole story in this case. There are a myriad of different reasons that this boy might have chosen rape. For example, he might not have had sex in a long time and was just horny. Of course, I’ve never had sex in my whole life, and I’ve never resorted to rape, but just because I would never rape a girl doesn’t give me the right to force him to not rape this girl.

At around the same time, we began to learn about the antebellum era of American history in my AP US History class. I had always thought of slavery as a very evil concept, and I had always been glad that it has been abolished, a thought perpetuated by all of my previous history classes as well as this one. But I decided to look at the slavery issue at a new angle, in light of my recent epiphany. I realized that my new outlook could be applied to the slavery issue as well. Though the slavery issue may be finished business today, I know that if I had lived back then my position would have been: “If you don’t like slavery, then don’t own slaves.” This seems like the fairest position to me. It allows everybody to live according to their own morals without anyone’s interference. It’s a shame that the Union government didn’t feel the same way.

Despite the application of my new mantra on others areas of life, my main focus remained abortion. At first, I remained personally against abortion, but I accepted the right of women to do what they please in this regard. But, now that I was more open and accepting of abortion, I was able to remove my preexisting biases and understand the pro-choice side much more clearly. And my own opinion began to change for the better, yet again. I began to realize that not only was it fine for women to have abortions if they so choose, but that I also personally was fine with abortions. I realized that it is in fact perfectly moral for a woman to exercise control over the domain of her body, and expel her unwanted worthless fetal parasite, and that, as a man, I should encourage and even help women along in the process. The fetus, after all, is just a ball of cells, and even though that ball of cells does in fact contain unique human DNA, it doesn’t contain consciousness, and that’s obviously what really matters.

Even this change in opinion wasn’t enough to satisfy my mind, and I continued to be obsessed with abortion. I slowly became convinced that I wasn’t going far enough. I had already decided that true life begins at consciousness, and yet, newborn babies aren’t conscious or self-aware yet. Although I fought it at first, this eventually led me to the truth: Infanticide is okay. It makes sense when you think about it. Sometimes a mother might originally want to become a parent, but after the fetus is born she changes her mind. For example, something drastic could happen that would cut off her source of income, and a woman can’t be expected to raise a child without any income. So why shouldn’t she be able to terminate her motherhood if she so chooses? Now obviously we don’t know the exact date that an infant attains consciousness, and I’m sure that it varies, so I decided then that naturally we should set an arbitrary age up to which infanticide is allowable. And for a while this new opinion quelled my mind’s obsession with abortion.

About a week later, however, the thoughts flared up again. I started thinking about how consciousness defines true life, and I realized that this just does not make sense. Even if a human does not yet have consciousness, it will eventually have consciousness, so consciousness really can’t matter. And since we earlier established that it is fine for a mother to kill something that has unique human DNA, and since we now established that consciousness does not at all matter, I now contend that it is perfectly okay for a mother to terminate her own child at any age.

There are many reasons why this is allowable and even beneficial. Firstly, it gives relief to poor women who maybe can’t support as many children as they currently have. I mentioned earlier how an unexpected cut in a woman’s source of income is one of the reasons she may want to terminate her infant, but this unexpected cut in income might happen anytime, not just when her child is an infant. Now she can relieve herself of her burden when it is five, or fifteen, if she needs to at that time.

Secondly, it gives a woman true control over her own body. Earlier, when I realized the truth that a fetus is part of a woman’s body, rather than merely inside her body, I wondered exactly what changed at birth. Did something become chemically altered in the fetus’ DNA or elsewhere that made it become its own body? I asked this question to a doctor I know, and he assured me that that is not the case. This leads me to believe that children remain a part of their mother’s body even after birth, and the only real difference between them and their pre-birth selves is their location. This means that the right of a woman to terminate her parenthood at anytime is closely linked to her right to full control over her own body.

Thirdly, it prevents unruly children from becoming an undue burden to their parents. Nobody loves a brat, after all. In fact, I know a woman with this very problem. She always tells me about how her own children are so tough to get along with, and she wishes she could just stop being a parent. She is a very respectable woman, one of those radical feminists and a valiant fighter for women’s rights. I fully support her in her wish to terminate her children, and just one conversation with her will show you how much she deserves this right. She already owns her husband’s life, so why not her terrible children as well?

Fourthly, it is the most effective way to deal with unwanted children, at any age. With our current levels of promiscuous sex, unwanted children are on the rise, and both abortion and my idea are the best solution. And with our current adoption system broken and neither effective or enticing, the only possible way to solve this problem is through abortion and the termination of parenthood.

So, this basically outlines what I believe now. I’m proud of my newfound belief, and proud to say that I fight for the rights of women and people everywhere. I now know not to challenge the morality of others, and let them live as they please, especially women. I now know that in supporting the right to terminate parenthood, I am supporting the rights of women everywhere. I feel that I have become a new person after my epiphany. Beforehand I was judgmental and immoral, and I now believe that I understand morality better than most people. My experience has helped transform me into a good person.

There are two main reasons why I am telling all of you this. First, I want to thank those of you on here who insulted my former pro-life position. You set me on the path to becoming what I am now. Second, I’d like to ask for feedback. What do you think of my ideas? How might they be improved? Are there any reproductive rights for women that I may have forgotten about? I’d like to know, and I’d appreciate if you would tell me. Thank you.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
25 Oct 12 UTC
Anyone else want to put atom and CM in a cage and watch what happens?
ghug (5068 D(B))
25 Oct 12 UTC
Alright, CM, I have to give it to you, that was hilarious.

Well played.
semck83 (229 D(B))
25 Oct 12 UTC
lol.

That's actually pretty funny. Much better written than anything you've posted on here before, I must say.
inb4 someone thinks I'm serious.

Yeah, we've been learning about satire in English, and I just decided that I wanted to try and write some satire. I'll probably show it to my english teacher tomorrow.
dubmdell (556 D)
25 Oct 12 UTC
Well, CM, you've outdone yourself. More importantly, you outdid theresnogodbutme, and that's what really matters. Consider this thread link added to my favorites.
fulhamish (4134 D)
25 Oct 12 UTC
So CM I have a suggestion for you. I think that you should apply to Princeton to study under Peter Singer; here he is http://lapa.princeton.edu/peopledetail.php?ID=379

He is, it goes without saying, sridently pro-choice and has further developed the argument along the line you suggest:
''Another factor to take into account is the possibility of adoption. When there are more couples wishing to adopt than nor- mal children available for adoption, a childless couple may be prepared to adopt a haemophiliac. This would relieve the mother of the burden of bringing up a haemophiliac child, and enable her to have another child, if she wished. Then the replaceability argument could not justify infanticide, for bringing the other child into existence would not be dependent on the death of the haemophiliac. The death of the haemophiliac would then be a straightforward loss of a life of positive quality, not outweighed by the creation of another being with a better life.

So the issue of ending life for disabled newborn infants is not without complications, which we do not have the space to discuss adequately. Nevertheless the main point is clear: killing a disabled infant is not morally equivalent to killing a person. Very often it is not wrong at all.''

From http://www.utilitarian.net/singer/by/1993----.htm
ulytau (541 D)
25 Oct 12 UTC
That has to be the first obi ever to receive 4 +1s.
First obi ever to be coherent.
scagga (1810 D)
25 Oct 12 UTC
Tl;tp

Still seem to be a very concrete thinner.
scagga (1810 D)
25 Oct 12 UTC
Tl;tp

Still seem to be a very concrete thinker.
http://hypnothai.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/scarjo_popcorn.gif
http://images.wikia.com/xorviel/images/d/d0/Orson_Welles_Citizen_Kane_clapping_.gif
So I showed it to my English teacher today. She seemed to like it.
Invictus (240 D)
26 Oct 12 UTC
DDOOONNNN'TTTTT CCAAAAAAAARRREEEE!
Draugnar (0 DX)
26 Oct 12 UTC
@Invictus - mute the thread if you don't care, but don't be a fucking dick about it.
Nice attack add. I must admit, it was perhaps the best thing you've ever wrote. What happened to you CM? You seem... respectable.
+10 and counting, look at him on a roll
@ShockTrooper: I don't know what happened to me lol. I'm older, I suppose, but only by a month since the last time I was on here. I don't know, maybe I've matured in that month. I'm definitely more mature than when I first joined here, two and a half years ago.


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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
26 Oct 12 UTC
JavaScript question
See inside
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Tantris (2456 D)
25 Oct 12 UTC
If Obama wins...
How many conservatives are moving to Canada?
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
26 Oct 12 UTC
EOG: Bill Chase
gameID=101405

I know Ancient Med doesn't usually get any attention, but…
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President Eden (2750 D)
25 Oct 12 UTC
@Tolstoy and other libertarians
Scale of 1-10, how disappointed are y'all in Rand over this? I'm about an 11 right now.
http://www.businessinsider.com/mourdock-rape-republicans-rand-paul-2012-10#ixzz2AJdU8N56
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King Atom (100 D)
25 Oct 12 UTC
Show Me Something Interesting
The other day, someone told me I am too caught up in the past to function appropriately. It was then made a point that my taste in music accurately depicted the same conceptual view of my personality. So tell me, strangers, what is better today than it was yesterday? And can someone please explain the appeals of ANY form of modern music? I'm not sorry when I say that I am satisfied with listening to this for the rest of my life: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ_JAgHxR14
[BCAC]
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mapleleaf (0 DX)
24 Oct 12 UTC
new game!
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Bob Genghiskhan (1238 D)
25 Oct 12 UTC
How to not play for a draw.
EOGs for a game where hate overwhelmed sense. Link as soon as it's officially over.
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2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
24 Oct 12 UTC
Gerrymandering at its finest
My NY state assembly district. 140 miles long. 10 miles wide in some parts. Zero tons of American pride.

http://www.latfor.state.ny.us/maps/2012a/fa101.pdf
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Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
25 Oct 12 UTC
EOG - Live Gunboat -276
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hecks (164 D)
25 Oct 12 UTC
Issues logging in from Facebook
Are other people having issues logging in using the Facebook interface? I can't get into any of my active games (user sheck) and had to create this new account just to post about it. I'm worried I'm missing phases.
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yaks (218 D)
25 Oct 12 UTC
EoG Procrastination!-2
gameID=102725

We had france at 17 for a long time.
Theres something inexplicably thrilling about being a single unit for four years =).
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
25 Oct 12 UTC
Apple Mini
So, are you getting one? Do you like the size? Is it worth the price when you can get a Nexus 7 or Kindle Fire HD for so much less?
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The Problem of Evil
Inquire Within
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
25 Oct 12 UTC
Hurricane/Snowstorm Sandy
I know it isn't hitting landfall for at least another week yet, but if you're out there, be aware of it. There was a public service announcement regarding it in central Indiana last night, so if we have to worry about it, the east coast should really focus on it.
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