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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
13 May 11 UTC
Battle Hymm of WebDip: Union vs. Confederacy, Based On Residence?
Anyone up for some Games, er, a War Between the States?
North/Pacific Coast WebDip Players vs. Southern/Midwestern (below Missouri) Players?
Ideas for formatting and structure...open...anyone with ideas/interest in this?
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
13 May 11 UTC
Live Gunboat
Tonight, EDT, probably like 9 ish. Ideally a high pot. Anyone interested?

It's been a while for me to play live and would love a good game.
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Sicarius (673 D)
11 May 11 UTC
War is Peace
War is also un-ending
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
08 May 11 UTC
Culture and Imperialism-2
Hey guys,
I'd like to run a second game in my Culture and Imperialism series.
The details are same as before: Classic WTA 36-hour phase gunboat.
Slightly higher pot of 500 D
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chronoz (100 D)
13 May 11 UTC
Can Turkey still get his last circle?
ID#55906
It seems I am stuck in 2 stalemates (Mediterranean Sea, Germany) and an upcoming 3rd, which will prevent me from ever getting St. Petersburg.
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Draugnar (0 DX)
10 May 11 UTC
Riphen is a multi. This not a accusation but a fact he admits to.
Can a mod please ban him for cheating?
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santosh (335 D)
13 May 11 UTC
Classic Anonymous 58712
Starts in about 4 mintues from the time of posting of this thread
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=58712
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Kautilya (100 D)
13 May 11 UTC
DiploMed gameID=58715
Hi guys, come and join in for a quick game. Promises to be fun!
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Zxylon (0 DX)
12 May 11 UTC
Status Update
Hello. I am a long time member to PHPdiplomacy, but I have been in a hiatus for over a year. Can anyone tell me what the new features are in the site since I last played. I am looking for a few high profile games.
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Otto Von Bismark (653 D)
13 May 11 UTC
High Stakes Game
Does anyone want to create a standard game with a pot around 200? Post if you would like to. Im thinking 1day/phase, public players and open chat. Probably PPSC.
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
13 May 11 UTC
About multis/cheating
Folks,
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
09 May 11 UTC
Down to1 game :(
I just finished one of my two remaining games still open. As such, I'm going to start a new game, PPSC, 100 point buyin, 2 day phases. I'm looking for takers.
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
06 May 11 UTC
Statistical Report
I'm nearly done with the report I have been putting together. Austria, England, France and Germany are complete. I'm in the process of working on Italy, Russia, Turkey and some general statistics not dealing with any specific country.
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numberzero (127 D)
11 May 11 UTC
Help for feeling like a bad person?
So i'm in a high point non-WTA gunboat, and everyone is playing a top notch game, we are able to communicate using support holds, etc. But then I stab my ally for SCs and profit. I feel sort of bad about it, because i'm essentially stealing a lot of points from somebody that was nice enough to play with me.

How can I feel better about myself in these circumstances?
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Maniac (189 D(B))
12 May 11 UTC
Question about GR
See inside
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
10 May 11 UTC
Discuss the following statement:
“In a time in which Communist regimes have been rightfully discredited and yet alternatives to neoliberal capitalist societies are unwisely dismissed, I defend the fundamental claim of Marxist theory: there must be countervailing forces that defend people’s needs against the brutality of profit driven capitalism.”
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dD_ShockTrooper (1199 D)
12 May 11 UTC
Obi-Wan Kenobi Is Dead, Vader Says...
http://www.galacticempiretimes.com/2011/05/09/galaxy/outer-rim/obi-wan-kenobi-is-killed.html
Seems similar to something I have heard about recently... Ah well, it will come to me eventually.
fiedler (1293 D)
12 May 11 UTC
Great stuff. Empire! Empire! Wooohoooooo!
And my favorite comment at the bottom:
"Why are we still giving aid to Tatooine? They probably knew of Kenobi's existence the whole time and even helped him! That whole planet is just a big hive of scum and villainy."
largeham (149 D)
12 May 11 UTC
Hail Vader!
Knowing that darth vader is out there bravely fighting for us citizens of the empire helps me feel safe for my children's futures. Just earlier today my little son was saying he wants to become a stormtrooper when he grows up. Force bless the empire!
Draugnar (0 DX)
12 May 11 UTC
Might be a bit difficult for him to be a stormtrooper, considering they are all clones whose source DNA is Jango Fett.
Tolstoy (1962 D)
12 May 11 UTC
I'm not an expert in Star Wars lore, but I seem to recall that in episodes IV-VI the storm troopers were of varying heights - suggesting the stormtrooper recruitment standards were relaxed over time.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
12 May 11 UTC
it turns out the flaw in jango fett's DNA was the inability to distinguish between a smart order and order 66.

to easy to abuse so they replace the clone with real recruits who could betray them only on a much smaller scale.
Draugnar (0 DX)
12 May 11 UTC
That was just an actor thing. If you recall, Princess Leia commented that Luke was "a little short to be a stromtrooper". However, I suppose it is possible that the Kamino refused to clone more for the Emperor as their contract was with the Jedi, even if that was just a subterfuge to get them to do the cloning.
Draugnar (0 DX)
12 May 11 UTC
Well, a little research shows the Emperor did allow some natural born stormtroopers.

But does anybody else wonder how such an effective and elite fighting force as the clone troopers turned into an army that, as a whole, had the marksmanship skills of an ADD preschooler?
Invictus (240 D)
12 May 11 UTC
And the Empire expects us to believe the body just disappeared? This is a fairy tale.
Mafialligator (239 D)
12 May 11 UTC
WNYX News time 1247-mark-59. Tragedy struck today in Sector 9 as rebel terrorists blew up the Death Star, killing thousands. The Rebel Alliance a fringe group of anti-Empire fanatics has claimed responsibility for the terrorist act. Fortunately Lord Vader escaped without harm. Our hearts go out to the families of the victims.
Invictus (240 D)
12 May 11 UTC
Are you that gullible, Mafialligator? Vader planned the attack on the Death Star so he'd have an excuse to invade Hoth. You sheeple need to stop swallowing every lie the Empire sends out about the "Rebel Alliance," which THEY actually created years ago to fight the Trade Federation. OPEN YOUR EYES!
Draugnar (0 DX)
12 May 11 UTC
Invictus +1 - If just because he used the term "sheeple".
Mafialligator (239 D)
12 May 11 UTC
<3
Thucydides (864 D(B))
12 May 11 UTC
no tolstoy is correct, in later years you could sign up.

recall a line in IV about like "going to the academy" or someodd.
Invictus (240 D)
12 May 11 UTC
Here's a little essay I may or may not have plagarized, which addresses the issue at hand quite nicely. Feel free to look for the original in some other thread. I won't give the link since I believe all information should be able to be used by all people with no citation whatsoever for the person who actually did the work first.



The Empire’s 'death of ‘Obi-Wan’ story has come apart at the seams. Will it make any difference that before 48 hours had passed the story had changed so much that it no longer bore any resemblance to Lord Vader’s Sunday evening broadcast and has lost all credibility?

So far it has made no difference to the once-fabled news organization, the Coruscant Communiqué Corporation (CCC) , which on Third Month.9, eight days later, is still repeating the propaganda that the stormtroopers s killed Obi-Wan in his Tatooine compound, where Obi-Wan lived next door to the Hutt Military Academy surrounded by the Hutt army.

Not even Jabba himself finds the story implausible. The CCC reports that the crime boss is launching a full-scale investigation of how Obi-Wan managed to live for years in an army garrison town without being noticed.

For most Imperial citizens the story began and ended with four words: 'we got Obi-Wan.' The celebrations, the sweet taste of revenge, of triumph and victory over 'the most dangerous man in the galazy’ are akin to the thrill experienced by sports fans when their podracer defeats the unspeakable rival or their other Star Wars sport team wins the something. No fan wants to hear the next day that it is not so, that it is all a mistake. If these Imperials years from now come across a story that the killing of Obi-Wan was an orchestrated news event to boost other agendas, they will dismiss the report as the ravings of a pinko-liberal-commie.

Everyone knows we killed Obi-Wan. How could it be otherwise? We – the indispensable people, the virtuous nation, the galaxy’s only superpower, the white hats – were destined to prevail. No other outcome was possible.

No one will notice that those who fabricated the story forgot to show the kidney dialysis machine that, somehow, kept Obi-Wan alive for a decade. No doctors were on the premises.

No one will remember that Flux News reported in Twelfth Month 2001, that Obi-Wan Kenobi had passed away from his illnesses. (http://www.fluxxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html)

If Obi-Wan beat all odds and managed to live another decade to await, unarmed and undefended, the arrival of the stormtroopers last week, how it is possible that the 'terror mastermind,' who defeated not merely the ICIA and IBI, but all 16 Imperial intelligence agencies along with those of the Empire's Doctor Who allies and Israel, the Imprial Security Council, the Dodecahedron, SPACERAD, Space Traffic Control, spaceport security four times on the same morning, etc. etc., never enjoyed another success, not even a little, very minor one? What was the 'terror mastermind' doing for a decade after the attack on the Death Star?

The 'death of Obi-Wan’ serves too many agendas that cover the political spectrum for the obvious falsity of the story to be recognized by very many. Patriots are euphoric that the Empire won over Obi-Wan. Progressives have seized on the story to excoriate the Empire for extra-judicial murder that brutalizes us all. Some on the left-wing bought into the Death Star story because of the emotional satisfaction they received from oppressed Jedi striking back at their Imperial oppressors. These left-wingers are delighted that it took the incompetent Imperials an entire decade to find Obi-Wan, who was hiding in plain view. The Imperial incompetence in finding Obi-Wan simply, in their minds, proves the incompetence of the Emperor’s government, which failed to protect Imperials against the Death Star attack.

Those who ordered, and those who wrote, totally incompetent legal memos that torture was permissible under Imperial and intergalactic law, thereby setting up Emperor Palpatine and Darth Vader and Dick Cheney for the possibility of prosecution, are riding the euphoria of Obi-Wan’s death by declaring that it was torture that led the Imperial assassins to Obi-Wan. All of a sudden, torture, which had fallen back into the disrepute in which it had been for centuries, is again in the clear. Anything that leads to the elimination of Obi-Wan is a valid instrument.

Those, who want to increase the pressure on Tatooine to shut up about ATATs murdering Tatooinei citizens in Tatooine from the air and from troops on the ground, have gained a new club with which to beat the Hutt government into submission: 'you hid Obi-Wan from us.'

Those who want to continue to fatten the profits of the military/security complex and the powers of Homespace Security, such as Secretary of State Hillary Tarkin, use Obi-Wan's second, or ninth, death as proof that the Empire is being successful in its war on terror and that the war must continue on such a successful path until all enemies are slain.

Most ominous of all was the statement by the ICIA director that Obi-Wan’s death would lead to new attacks on the Empire and new Death Star attacks from the Rebel Alliance seeking revenge. This warning, issued within a few hours of Lord Vader’s Sunday evening address, telegraphed the inevitable ‘Rebel’ Internet posting that the Empire would suffer new ‘Death Stars’ for killing their leader.

If the Rebellion knew in Twelfth Month 2001 that Obi-Wan was dead, does anyone think that the Rebels didn't know it? Indeed, no member of the public has any way of knowing if the Rebel Alliance is anything more than a bogyman organization created by the ICIA which issues ‘Rebel’ announcements. The evidence that the Rebel Alliance’s announcements are issued by the ICIA is very strong. The various videos of Obi-Wan for the last nine years have been shown by experts to be fakes. Why would Obi-Wan issue a fake video? Why did Obi-Wan cease issuing videos and only issue audios? A person running a galaxy-wide terrorist organization should be able to produce videos. He would also be surrounded by better protectors than a couple of women. Where was the Rebel Alliance, which according to former Dodecahedron chief Moff Rumsfeld, consists of 'the most dangerous, best-trained, vicious killers in the galaxy.' Had these most dangerous men alive abandoned their leader?

The ICIA director's warning of future terrorist attacks, followed by a suspect ‘Rebel Alliance’ threat of the same, suggests that if the Imperial public continues to lose its enthusiasm for the governments open-ended wars, which are conducted at the expense of the Empire’s budget deficit, the credit's exchange value, inflation, Asocial Security, Medikill, income support programs, jobs, recovery, and so forth, ‘Rebel Alliance’ will again outwit all 16 Imperial intelligence agencies, those of our allies, SPACERAD, spaceport security, Space Traffic Control, etc. etc., and inflict the galaxy's only superpower with another humiliating defeat that will invigorate Imperial support for 'the war on the Rebellion.'

I believe that the ‘Rebel Alliance’ could blow up the Imperial Palace or Senate Chamber or both and that the majority of Imperials would fall for the story, just as the Germanoids, a better educated and more intelligent population, fell for the Reichstag Singularity – as did a number of historians.

The reason I say this is that Imperials have succumbed to propaganda that has conditioned them to believe that they are under attack by practically omnipotent adversaries. Proof of this is broadcast every day. For example, on third Month 9., I heard over Imperial Public Radio in Atlantis that Ackbar University, a private university of some distinction, treated its 3,500 graduating class to a commencement address by Janoot Napolitano, Secretary of Spaceland Security.

This is the agency that has goons feeling the genitals of young children and adults and which has announced that it intends to expand this practice from air travelers to shopping malls, bus and train stations. That a serious university invited such a low-lifer, who clearly has no respect for Imperial civil liberty and is devoid of any sort of sense of what is appropriate, to address a graduating class of southern sector elite is a clear indication that the Ministry of Truth has prevailed. Imperials are living in George Lucas’ 1977.

For those who haven't read Lucas's classic prediction of our time, Hack Writer, the government, could tell the 'citizens' any lie and it was accepted unquestioningly. As a perceptive reader pointed out to me, we Imperials, with our 'free press,' are at this point today: 'What is really alarming is the increasingly arrogant sloppiness of these lies, as though the government has become so profoundly confident of its ability to deceive people that they make virtually no effort to even appear credible.'

A people as gullible as Imperials have no future. This galaxy makes me sick.
This takes on a whole new light if every time you read "Obi-Wan" you think "obiwanobiwan"
ulytau (541 D)
12 May 11 UTC
I do. The fact that he vanished from this forum makes it twice as scary.
@Invictus
As if fighting the Rebel Alliance wasn't hard enough without all you conspiricy theorists confusing the population and making them scared. The Empire has assured us hundreds of times that the attack on Alderaan and the Death Star were the work of Obi-Wan Kenobi's rebels. If we start believing ridiculous stuff like that, how long will it be before the rebellian starts blowing up core-worlds or even Coruscant?

That said, I believe we need to see Lord Vader's birth certificate. I think he's trying to hide his origins, and might not be a true Imperial at all. Until I see where he was born, he's lost my vote, even if he did take out Obi-Wan.
Mafialligator (239 D)
13 May 11 UTC
obiwanobiwan is probably just in the middle of exams. And if his essays are anything like his forum posts he'll be working on them for a very, very, very, very long time, (let's just hope he leaves some time for proofreading).
and that he doesnt chalk everything up to human nature
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
13 May 11 UTC
My death was but an illusion...your eyes can deceive you, don't trust them!

Death to de Empiyah! ;)
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
13 May 11 UTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV7Ha3VDbzE

Nevah forget, Imperial Infidels!
Mafialligator (239 D)
13 May 11 UTC
Don't follow that link! It's a trap!
mapleleaf (0 DX)
13 May 11 UTC
How so?
Mafialligator (239 D)
13 May 11 UTC
That was an Admiral Ackbar joke mapleleaf. And now I've had to explain it.
idealist (680 D)
13 May 11 UTC
this post is hilarious. nice job
+1 webdip


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basvanopheusden (2176 D)
12 May 11 UTC
Minor 'bug'
I stumbled on a very minor bug yesterday. If I have an army in Ruhr, supporting fleet in Belgium to hold, but I change that to support holding an army in Holland, it says: "Army Ruhr support hold to fleet Holland". Should this be fixed?
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joey1 (198 D)
10 May 11 UTC
Forum press game
Hello, I have an idea for a game. The gameID=58416 is set up with No messaging and anon players. Normally the rule is not to discuss ongoing games in the forum, but here, this will be the point of the game. (I got this idea from the dark press game)
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
11 May 11 UTC
General - President - Ambassador - (Diplomat) - (Spy)
ok, so this is a 3-5 player (sorry, 21-35 player) team variant.
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
12 May 11 UTC
Please join our game? Newton's 3rd Law: countervail
Newton's 3rd law: countervail
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=58596
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Ridcully (100 D)
12 May 11 UTC
Copy-Button for your saved Orders. Would it be awesome?
Pretty much that's it. A Button that copys you actual orders to the clipboard as plain text so you can post it in your chats.
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figlesquidge (2131 D)
12 May 11 UTC
"Most Dangerous city in the world"
A friend of mine just came back from a pub quiz, which they won. The prize of £150 all came to the final question, "If Baghdad is the most dangerous city in the world, where is second?"
What answers would you have given and why?
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gigantor (404 D)
12 May 11 UTC
Diploholics Anonymous
My name is Gigantor, and I'm a Diploholic. (HI, GIGANTOR!) I'm going away for two months this summer, and as a consequence I have told myself not to start any new games until September. I'm down to my last one, and even that will be over soon. Somebody console me. *breaks down in tears*
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Crazyter (1335 D(G))
10 Apr 11 UTC
BOSTON F2F UPDATE
New venue booked with balcony and river view. See inside for details.
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Riphen (198 D)
12 May 11 UTC
1 Day Phase Game PPSC
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taos (281 D)
11 May 11 UTC
i hate playing england
i just dont know what to do with england
how to start or how to continue
does any player have some tips?
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Morandini (137 D)
12 May 11 UTC
CHEATERS!! can the GMs verify?
I am not confident that France and England are different players in "The Return of the Conqueror" game
Can a fleet in English Channel that belongs to England support a french army in Bel if they do not talk to each other or "is" the same player?
This makes the confidence in this site VERY LOW!
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gigantor (404 D)
09 May 11 UTC
Forum issue: timestamps
I've just noticed that there's (something that's potentially) an error in the timestamps on the forum. The stamps shouldn't specify the day/date/month when that date is not *today*, but in fact they don't specify when the post was created within the last 24 hours. Perhaps this was intentional, but when I see a timestamp reading 03:00 PM, even if it's actually 2:30 PM, I don't immediately realise that it was yesterday. Issue or not?
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taos (281 D)
11 May 11 UTC
nigth live
join now
gameID=58550
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