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kestasjk (64 DMod(P))
28 Jul 09 UTC
Bugs
After collecting a good haul of error-logs over the last few days I've been able to fix a few problems that have been occurring:
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jbalcorn (429 D)
30 Jul 09 UTC
Bug Report
My game ended. But I have 600+ points, so this makes no sense:

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Draugnar (0 DX)
30 Jul 09 UTC
All voted to pause but it isn't pausing...
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=11998

All live powers have voted to pause on the dashboard, but it isn't pausing.
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Marshall76 (100 D)
30 Jul 09 UTC
How to leave a game?
Is there any better way to leave a game than missing turns? I am playing for 7 SC country but the game is 12 hours and that is too fast for me, which I realized too late :(
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The General (554 D)
30 Jul 09 UTC
I know I'm behind on the times, but...
What are processing cycles for starting new games? Did we have them before and were just never mentioned?
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redcrane (1045 D)
30 Jul 09 UTC
NEW LIVE GAME!!!
You don't need to respond to this, just use this link.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=12460
I hope that hyperlinked, join join join!
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superchunk (4890 D)
30 Jul 09 UTC
What determines the order of countries in the game screen?
It seems to change and I cannot see an obvious pattern.

btw, I'm referring to the screen where we all put orders in ect, the bottom table lists each country with various details.
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
27 Jul 09 UTC
Historical Question
Why was Napoleon exiled instead of executed? Particularly after the escape from Elba and Waterloo, which clearly demonstrated that putting Napoleon by himself on an island and expecting him to stay there and behave himself was a really really bad idea.
Furor (393 D)
27 Jul 09 UTC
Well, there are a number of reasons.

First, you need to realise that the execution of crowned rulers of European states was something that had happened a good deal in the years leading up to the Napoleonic war, and it was very crucially the truth that the sort of people who did that were lawless revolutionaries rather than civilized men. For England and the rest of the Seventh Coalition powers, it would not have done at all for them to put themselves on the same level as those who had killed Charles I or Louis XVI. The excesses of both the English Civil War and the French Revolution laid heavily on the consciences of those involved. On the one hand, the English didn't want the more or less peaceful gains of the Glorious Revolution to be undermined; on the other, they didn't want to cast their lot with the Jacobins and such of France, who of course had been roundly denounced both popularly and politically during their heyday. Napoleon may have ousted the Bourbon monarch, but he was not a republican after all.

It's also the case that his escape from Elba was a freak occurence rather than something that could just be expected. It was occasioned as much by the fact of France's military might being still well-maintained after his defeat as it was by his own ambition; indeed, he never did try to escape from St. Helena, and spent six years there under no closer supervision than he enjoyed on Elba. If the re-established Bourbon monarchy hadn't been so weak, we might reasonably question whether or not Bonaparte would have ever left Elba at all.

Finally, there is the matter of it being a more civilized time, or at least a more chivalrous one. In spite of the fact that Napoleon had been officially declared a menace to all of Europe, that he surrendered himself personally to Capt. Maitland on the 'Bellerophon' in July of 1815 signalled a willingness to play by the rules. It would be one thing to execute a tyrant who had fought to the bitter end, pulling his own people down alongside him (we've seen enough of them, think of an example); it would be quite another to execute a man who renounced all claim to the throne, left the safety of his citadel and marched willingly into capture. Besides, that marching into capture was accompanied on Bonaparte's part by an official request for asylum from the British, and they themselves would have been (rightly) viewed as unspeakable monsters if they had granted it only to turn around and kill him.

I hope this goes some way towards answering your question.
digitsu (1254 D)
27 Jul 09 UTC
as I remember it (without having to wiki the answer)* they didn't kill him because he still had loyal supporters who they didn't want to piss off and risk a civil war. Though seen as a tyrant, they probably didnt want to make him a martyr.
tilMletokill (100 D)
27 Jul 09 UTC
I love learning about Napolean he was a great leader and if France kept Napolean in Power i belive they would be a stronger nation then they are now
tilMletokill (100 D)
27 Jul 09 UTC
also love the fact that to view his casket you have to bow down a hole .......come on how much cooler can the man get
sinned (100 D)
27 Jul 09 UTC
may be we should ask the souls of several hundreds of cannon fodder that fueled his ambition
danikine74 (167 D)
27 Jul 09 UTC
i think his ambition and methods were not that much different from those used in the coalition nations ( ie england ambition to rule the world, tzarist russia to rule the land, austro-hungarian huge empire, prussian later war-like developpement...)
danikine74 (167 D)
27 Jul 09 UTC
we may also ask the sould of severals hundreds of cannon fodder that fueles Spainish ambition on europe and italy and america, english ambition over almost all the globe, austrian ambition over europe, russian ambition over euro-asia, turkish ambitions...etcc
digitsu (1254 D)
27 Jul 09 UTC
The nepolianic code. Nuff said.
Invictus (240 D)
27 Jul 09 UTC
Is the nepolianic code anything like the Napoleonic Code?
Hereward77 (930 D)
27 Jul 09 UTC
There is an argument to say that he was executed...very slowly...with a diet of British arsenic. I also assume you (sinned and danikine) meant 'several hundred thousand'. I'm pretty sure millions of soldiers died, never mind civilians. It was the first industrial series of wars.
Toby Bartels (361 D)
27 Jul 09 UTC
@danikine74:

Yes, yes, ask them all. All of these leaders were SoBs. Not one of them was cool. Same with Napoleon, just the same.
Acosmist (0 DX)
27 Jul 09 UTC
The British did a hell of a lot of good.

As for the Prussians, they were looking for independence.
jman777 (407 D)
27 Jul 09 UTC
I don't think it was millions, maybe a few hundred thousand, but there just weren't that many people around back then.
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
28 Jul 09 UTC
Churchill defined the Royal Navy as being found'd on rum, sodomy & the lash. Prior to the "Napoleonic" wars the RN's greatest feat had been troucing the spanish amada. After them it had a navy that found'd their empire & the RN's great heroes, Nelson, Jervis (Lord St Vincent) & Collingwood. Furor's call on the "why didn't they execute him ?" question is a good response. Napoleon is an extraordinary person & "of his times" Sure he did terrible things, but also good, so whether he was a benefit or curse to humanity is a tricky call. Paris would not be the beautiful city it is today without Napoleon's grand architectural works. I see a some difference's between Napoleon & the Hitler, Stalin & Polpots of history.
Invictus (240 D)
28 Jul 09 UTC
Napoleon III built Paris as it is today.

Why did you put "Napoleonic" in quotes? It doesn't make sense.

"I see a some difference's between Napoleon & the Hitler, Stalin & Polpots of history."

Grammatical butchery aside, I don't know what you mean by that. I can somewhat understand how Hitler and Napoleon have the whole conquer Europe thing in common, and Stalin restructured the Soviet Union on a scale comparable to Napoleon in France, but there's not a serious similarity between Napoleon and Pol Pot. I won't waste my time picking apart the difference between Pol Pot rounding up intellectuals on the criteria of wearing glasses and Napoleon using some extra-legal means to deal with his rivals. You argument is absurd. Perhaps Robespierre and the worst of the Terror have a superficial similarity to Pol Pot, but certainly not Napoleon.

Come on, now.
DarioD (2326 D)
28 Jul 09 UTC
While the Napoleonic wars were definitely a turning point for the Royal Navy, one could argue that this was at least in part due to the terrible conditions of the French navy under the Republic and the Empire (officers being sent away or imprisoned because of their aristocratic origins, lack of discipline, Napoleon's utter inability to grasp the basics of naval warfare...).
France was the only country that could have realistically challenged British naval power until that moment, but their navy was in such a pitiful state that the outcome of the war, at least on the sea, could not have been different.

And then, of course, the British had Lord Nelson! :)
OMGNSO (415 D)
28 Jul 09 UTC
@Invictus
I think (due to his grammactical butchey you misinterpreted it) that he was actually arguing what you just said, such that the line should have read "I see differences between Napolean and Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot".
lkruijsw (100 D)
28 Jul 09 UTC
The great thing about Napoleon is that we have the metric system now.

(the last person of this thread, may decide which system is better :-)
Invictus (240 D)
29 Jul 09 UTC
I suppose that could be possible. Looking at the post again I can't really make out an argument for either side.
Alderian (2425 D(S))
29 Jul 09 UTC
My interpretation was the same as OMGNSO's. And it fits with what he is saying in the previous paragraphs.
sinned (100 D)
29 Jul 09 UTC
yes it was millions in aggregate total....I guess its the same for all of the above meglomaniacs....the good that comes from them is perhaps....despite them....or us the victims seeking a rationale...we got the metric system.....the autobahn....rum in HM navy....
letting ones ambition or idiology progress to the death of millions....just a small personality defect.
Draugnar (0 DX)
29 Jul 09 UTC
The only problem with the metric system is there is no unit of weight. But then, there is no unit of mass with the English system, so I guess both have their flaws...

My interpretation is that Napolean was different from the collective group of Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot whose policies and actions targetted individuals for merely being part of a collective (race, politics, etc) for extermination. Napolean was a conquerer but didn't go about mass slaughter and slavery of those who opposed him. He was a warmonger, but not evil at least in the way I view evil. Others may disagree.
Toby Bartels (361 D)
29 Jul 09 UTC
Both the English and metric systems, as popularly understood in the early 19th century, had a unit of ‘weight’ (to use the English word), a term used (then and sometimes now, as on this cereal package in front of me) indiscriminately for either mass or force of gravity; the difference between these was only newly appreciated by physicists.

As the systems matured in scientific usage, they sprouted units of both mass and force, perhaps too many rather than two few!

In the metric system, the gramme(g) is the basic unit of mass, although many derived units are based on the kilogramme (kg, 1000 g). One unit of force is the dyne (dyn, the amount of force necessary to accelerate 1 g by 1 cm/s over the course of a second); another is the newton (N, the amount … 1 kg by 1 m/s …). For what it's worth, the newton is the official unit in the International System of Weights and Measures, but not everyone pays attention to that, even where they use the metric system, any more than Americans pay attention to the metric system.

In the English system, things are even more complicated, because ‘pound’ is used for both a unit of mass (lbm) *and* a unit of force (lbf). So, the poundal (pdl, the amount … 1 lbm by 1 ft/s …) is the unit of force to go with the pound mass, while the slug (the amount of mass that 1 lbf can accelerate by 1 ft/s over the course of a second) is the unit of mass to go with the pound force.

Actually, the metric possibilities are just as great (or greater, since, as above, people don't always agree on whether to use the g or kg and the cm or m), although the others are less common. To this day, the Chinese space programme uses the gramme force (as called the pond), or so Wikipedia tells me. The unit of force to go with that is the hyl (the amount of mass … 1 pond … 1 m/s …).

So you see, both systems have all the units you could want —and more!
lkruijsw (100 D)
29 Jul 09 UTC
In the SI system, the basic unit of mass is kg and not g. This is a little bit confusing. They tried to introduce a new unit, 'the einstein', but that failed. All derived units are based on kg and not on g.

Lucas
Invictus (240 D)
29 Jul 09 UTC
I only measure in chains and jiggers.
aoe3rules (949 D)
29 Jul 09 UTC
lkruijsw: yeah, and it gets annoying. You can't actually measure anything in grams, you have to use millikilograms.
Toby Bartels (361 D)
29 Jul 09 UTC
@aoe3rules:

I agree; the cgs system (which gave us the dyne) and the mks system (which gave us the newton and was adopted in SI) are obviously both wrong; where is the mgs system!?
sinned (100 D)
29 Jul 09 UTC
OMG....nerds with sense of humour.....scary......:-)
aoe3rules (949 D)
29 Jul 09 UTC
I don't see why we can't just use the good ol' original metric system. It's better without the "improvements".
Toby Bartels (361 D)
30 Jul 09 UTC
The original system did not distinguish between mass and force, which is a problem for (at least) physics.

But really, aoe3rules, you are (possibly joking but nevertheless) correct; we don't need all of these later additions, not even for physics. We just use the so-called ‘engineering’ system of units, which has both a gramme mass *and* a gramme force, and uses both as independent units.

(It is nice to use the new *word* ‘pond’ to mean the gramme force, so that ‘gramme’ and ‘gram’ can always mean the gramme mass. But that is not adding a new *unit*.)

In addition to all of the other physical constants, like the speed of light in vaccum (299 792 458 m/s), Planck's constant (0.000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 662 606 896 g m²/s), and Avogadro's number (602 214 183 858 071 454 769 000/g), we would have another constant, Galileo's constant (9.806 65 g m/p s², where ‘p’ is the symbol for the pond).

(These are all, incidentally, exact values under one proposed standard or another; the General Conference on Weights and Measures has adopted two of them —the shortest two— and is likely to adopt one of the other two within the next 10 years, although possibly not with the precise value given here. Unfortunately for me, it is unlikely to adopt them all.)


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Does webDip support "unwanted" convoys?
An unwanted convoy is when an army moves between two coastal areas, BEL-HOL for example, and another player's adjacent fleet convoys them, such as a fleet in NTH. This causes the army to move by convoy instead of by land, which could allow an opponent to avoid combat and take the army's starting point -- a HOL-BEL move to continue with the example.
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aoe3rules (949 D)
29 Jul 09 UTC
CD available
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9690


I have no further comment.
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reynoldsm (169 D)
27 Jul 09 UTC
Circling the Drain
A long time ally is circling the drain and has run into a unique problem. They have 8 centers but only 6 units and it doesn't seem like they will ever be able to get more than the current 6 due to constant warfare being on their centers.

Is it really a stab if you take a center that they currently aren't using to try and make sure that both of you aren't run over?
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Akroma (967 D)
29 Jul 09 UTC
Dual builds ?
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=10808
the buildphase already happened, so it is shown on the map
yet the game calls this phase unit-placing, and asks me what I want to build.
please fix this
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djbent (2572 D(S))
29 Jul 09 UTC
sitter needed
i'm going to need a sitter most likely from sunday or monday possibly through the end of the week. see inside and message me if you are available.
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marestyle (185 D)
29 Jul 09 UTC
Assault move
Can a fleet from the Barents sea move into St. Petersburg and conquer it?
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`ZaZaMaRaNDaBo` (1922 D)
29 Jul 09 UTC
A new game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=12452

Another friendly game of Diplomacy.
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BigZombieDude (1188 D)
29 Jul 09 UTC
Game Drawn but has not moved on
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=11654#

The above game has had all 3 remaining countries draw the game but it is still counting down until the next phase. BZD
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hellalt (24 D)
28 Jul 09 UTC
Help!
I just scratched my ass 9 times in 2 minutes (not consecutive). Am I going to die?
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kbake (188 D)
29 Jul 09 UTC
Map doesn't show England took Sweden
In Newbs game-2 England took Sweden in the last set of moves. I then moved that unit to Finland. Why doesn't the map indicate that Sweden is held by England?
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
27 Jul 09 UTC
favorite country to play and why?
just some food for thought...
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
25 Jul 09 UTC
Draw Votes
They appear to need to all be done in the same phase now. Is this a good thing?
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Onar (131 D)
29 Jul 09 UTC
Stab-Happy
Just got back from huskycon, and wantng to make a new game in celebration. 25 point buy-in. Quality players preferred. Just so you know, an old friend of mine is also joining.
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grncton (672 D)
29 Jul 09 UTC
Time warp bug!
See inside, but for those of you who want to go straight to the game, it's
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=11843
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Chrispminis (916 D)
29 Jul 09 UTC
Re: Crashed Games
Moderator speaking. Sorry all, but from what I can see, I don't have the ability to uncrash games. I've notified Kestas, so hopefully this'll be solved quickly enough. Sorry for the inconvenience everyone, and please bear with us.
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JesusPetry (258 D)
25 Jul 09 UTC
Please rollback
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=11456 needs to be rolled back to the previous retreat phase. Thanks already, Kestas!
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klokskap (550 D)
29 Jul 09 UTC
Need one new player for game campcrystal. The password is campcrystal
I work at a summer camp with a bunch of other people who want to start a diplomacy game online with me. We need one more to join, so please do!
Again, the password is campcrystal. The game bet is 5
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Legault (100 D)
29 Jul 09 UTC
Created a fast game
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=12444
Join this 12h/phase game now!
no password
entry; 20 D
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czechveck (311 D)
29 Jul 09 UTC
New game, Pencil vs Sharpener
24 hrs/turn; Bet 40. Come one come at least 4 more...
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Legault (100 D)
29 Jul 09 UTC
Retreating
If a person has to retreat but doesn't issue order, what heppens to the retreating unit?
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hellalt (24 D)
29 Jul 09 UTC
new ghost ratings
When are the new ghost rating for the second half of July coming up?
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texasdeluxe (516 D(B))
29 Jul 09 UTC
Unpause please
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=11113
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