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Socrates Dissatisfied (1727 D)
14 Jul 14 UTC
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Maybe I'm being over sensitive...
But there seems to be a fair bit of misogyny in some posts. All in jest, but still, some posts that are misogynistic in nature. I'm curious as to whether there would be so many if there were more women on the site.
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
16 Jul 14 UTC
Vsauce?
So I am an avid viewer of the youtube channel Vsauce and was curious if anyone else watches it?
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
14 Jul 14 UTC
English Writing Skills Thread
Discuss skills that help you write good prose and poetry.

I'll start:
If you are trying to write an argumentative piece, it helps a lot to be concise. A long-winded piece that just says the same thing in ten different ways just leads readers astray.
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
15 Jul 14 UTC
Sandbox
I used to play on an online diplomacy site that had a sandbox. Is it possible to get one on this site, even if just for classic. I looked on the todo list and saw nothing in reference to it.
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Vikesrussel (839 D)
15 Jul 14 UTC
Un pause please.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=143190
Please Un pause the game.

Russia wont do it.
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Draugnar (0 DX)
14 Jul 14 UTC
Obiwan where are you?!
I just finished watching Joss Whedon's production of Much Ado About Nothing and wanted to learn if you had seen it and what your impression was if you had. I quite enjoyed it and felt it was, at the least, comparable to Branagh's version.
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krellin (80 DX)
14 Jul 14 UTC
Dead Children = Liberal Compassion
Truth in Action - One of the brilliant ideas of Libtards is "open borders"...it's compassionate. Everyone deserves blah blah blah. Yeah, but there are CONSEQUENCES: ** Dead CHILDREN on the shores of the Rio Grande **

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/07/report-small-lifeless-dead-children-found-washed-up-along-riverbank-of-rio-grande/
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King Atom (100 D)
13 Jul 14 UTC
Millions of Germans just wet themselves...
...and probably plenty of other Europeans too...

Congrats and all.
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
15 Jul 14 UTC
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Little Known Casual Board Games That Are Excellent
Getting some opinions
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
15 Jul 14 UTC
England?
So I have played maybe 100+ games of classic and never have I played as England. Now for the first time here I am. What are some good strategies?
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
15 Jul 14 UTC
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What it means to be human
A question and some thoughts
zultar (4180 DMod(P))
15 Jul 14 UTC
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Just read this article on NPR: http://www.npr.org/2014/07/14/330183987/the-3-scariest-words-a-boy-can-hear
Here's a quote that struck me at the end:
"On what it means to be a man

I think it can only be defined by two things: One, it's your capacity to love and to be loved. Masculinity ought to be defined in terms of relationships. Second thing, it ought to be defined by commitment to a cause." Please read the rest of the article so that the quote isn't out of context.

As I grow older, having grown up as an adult with my wife and now having kids of my own and thinking about how I want to raise my children and the values my wife and I try to impart, the question of masculinity or femininity seems to me to be one that is really not important. Masculinity or femininity seems to me to be more physiological and less value- or societal-laden. Why should masculinity be defined in terms of relationships or commitment to a cause or anything other than physiology or appearances thereof? In whatever values that we use to define or attribute to masculinity, could it also not be applicable to femininity? Does femininity not include relationship or commitment to a cause?

Should the question not be "What does it mean to be human?"
To think about and recognize the faults we have and the ideals we ourselves try to create and live up to.

The time you have with your kids, and most parents that I know would agree, is short. It is never as long as you think it is and all you have are fleeing moments. I want to teach my kids what it means to try to be a decent human, on what it means to care for others' feelings, on loving, on forgiving, on being kind, on trying to contribute positively to society and so on; I don't see when or why I would teach them what it means to be "a man" or "a woman" or that they should adhere to some societal idea of what it means to be a man or a woman or an LGBT member.
semck83 (229 D(B))
15 Jul 14 UTC
I think you should teach them all those things, but I don't think you can really impart to them the answer of "what it means to be human." That is a question they'll grapple with for a long time themselves, after the first shock of realizing that they don't know the answer (probably around age 13-15).

You want them to know all those things so that they'll recognize what some of the properties of an answer have to be.
semck83 (229 D(B))
15 Jul 14 UTC
Of course, on second thought, the factual things you teach them about what humanity is and what it means will also percolate into their answers, I think. Do you think humanity is a creation of God? Not a creation of any divinity, but the highest and noblest thing ever to evolve? Not especially noble, but what we're stuck with? Our last best hope? Our first, worst problem? Unique? Mundane?

Those things will go very early into their conception of what they are, and will later be built into their answers, unless rejected.
pangloss (363 D)
15 Jul 14 UTC
One thing that has fascinated me for a while is the word itself--"human". There are some older English style guides that insist that the word is an adjective only and not a noun. But in modern usage, "human" is used almost exclusively (at least in the things that I read) as a noun.

An adjective-only usage would suggest that there are certain traits associated with being human that may or may not apply to people. I can be human and you can be human, but that other guy might not be. I would call this a normative description of humanity--it tells us what we should and shouldn't be.

I prefer the adjective-only perspective because it allows for a justification of rights. I would elaborate on this more, but I have to wake up early tomorrow. Essentially, using "human" as an adjective separates particular behaviours from animalistic behaviours, and this allows us to assign rights to people that we wouldn't assign to animals. If we use "human" as a noun, we make it a subset of animalia instead.
Putin33 (111 D)
15 Jul 14 UTC
Nothing makes us human except our genes. Our big brains confuse us and make us contemplate all these weird questions but we're simply primates that are particularly attempt at throwing and running long distances. Love is a rather recent human phenomenon in our evolutionary history. And I'd argue, with the rise of love has been the decline of friendship (and decline of marriage). That can be seen as a good or bad thing. I don't know. Good or bad are rather meaningless. It's just what it is.
Putin33 (111 D)
15 Jul 14 UTC
*adept not attempt
Draugnar (0 DX)
15 Jul 14 UTC
" If we use "human" as a noun, we make it a subset of animalia instead. "

So? We come from the apes and, quite honestly, animals treat their own generally better than we do.
Putin33 (111 D)
15 Jul 14 UTC
Nonsense, human babies take years to develop and parents even provide for them after young humans can walk and hunt for themselves. We wouldn't have big brains if parents didn't defend their young for extended periods of time.
pangloss (363 D)
15 Jul 14 UTC
If nothing makes us human except for our genes, then there is nothing to justify treating human beings better than non-human animals. That is to say, if we're simply organic biological accidents, then we have no moral standing above or below other organic biological accidents. The foundation of rights is on the idea that we as a species are better than other species. If you adopt this position, I congratulate you on your moral consistency so long as you refrain from eating meat.
Putin33 (111 D)
15 Jul 14 UTC
"If nothing makes us human except for our genes, then there is nothing to justify treating human beings better than non-human animals."

Correction, nothing to justify treating human beings better than non-human organisms period.

"That is to say, if we're simply organic biological accidents, then we have no moral standing above or below other organic biological accidents. "

Sure, but morality, rights are social contrivances designed to provide order to ever larger groups of human beings, families, clans, tribes, etc, enabling cooperation & enhancing survival.

"I congratulate you on your moral consistency so long as you refrain from eating meat."

I don't see what meat has to do with it. There are other organisms besides animals. But I do try to limit intake anyway as it's unnecessary and I rather like animals.





Fasces349 (0 DX)
15 Jul 14 UTC
I'm just waiting for Krellin to call this some liberal pussy bullshit or something.
SYnapse (0 DX)
15 Jul 14 UTC
I wrote something on this:

The human condition is everything that comes with being a mortal and vulnerable, yet self-aware animal. It comes with the harvesting of nature’s bounty, of striving against the harshness of nature; it is a fear of animals and of the dark, humility towards the natural world and a respect and adherence to the weather. In opposition, it is the familiar comforting feel of “home” and a warm fire, it is the successes we have, the inventions created through necessity however small which make our lives easier, and our never-ending struggle to cure various ailments and diseases. The awareness of one’s own mortality, whether through the contemplation of a landscape or prayers to God, giving us a feeling that the world is far bigger than us, our individual insignificance and the inevitability of our death which we constantly struggle with throughout our lives. And it is also the products of that knowledge of mortality; sacrifice and genuine altruism, imagination and fantasy, and possessing values of morality and meaning that surpass our physical surroundings. Although we dream of infinity, it is the day to day passing of our lives that paint our condition the most; gathering and preparing food, obtaining clothing and belongings, and appreciating the complexity of the world around us from the forest floor to the night sky. Yes, the human condition is a group of great concepts like love, loss, triumph and disaster, glory and happiness, but it is ultimately the simplicity of raising our children or communicating with others that give us our deepest satisfaction. We enjoy the things which bind us to each other and allow us to express our selves, through song and dance and the creation of art, jewellery and decoration.
The other side of the human condition is our unique capacity for evil. Our life-struggle seems to be continually obstructed by other people or events, something which can cause us to feel emotions like anger and hatred. Our self-esteem, if wounded, causes us to seek revenge; our strife for security may cause us to inflict harm upon others for our own benefit. More sinisterly, personal failure and fear can lead us to purposefully inflict cruelty and harm upon others, most frequently to other humans (or to the anthropomorphism of intelligent animals...we would never, for example, derive satisfaction from the torture of a tree as we would an animal) to seek a kind of revenge upon consciousness itself for its lack of empathy to our own situation and intentions. We remain eternally at war with ourselves.
We are posited therefore under an infinite raging sea of conflicting forces and ideas, the clamour of human life through which we kick and scream our way, deriving pleasure from what small victories we can achieve against insurmountable odds; a species of ape which understands its own value, but does not yet know how to reconcile apishness to the importance we attach to our lives which we constantly fight to protect.
Putin33 (111 D)
15 Jul 14 UTC
This seems like a poem.


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2ndWhiteLine (2736 D(B))
14 Jul 14 UTC
Shopping
In an effort to make this site more female friendly, I'd like to discuss where us WebDippers buy clothing, household goods, and anything else relevant.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
15 Jul 14 UTC
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I SAW THE BANNER
I SAW THE DAMN COMMUNITY FREEDOM OF SPEECH BANNER THINGY WHAT'S GOING ON ZULTAR
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SplitDiplomat (101466 D)
11 Jun 14 UTC
New Top 7 GB game
The game is about to start so an info for the
participants only,about the final roster;
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
14 Jul 14 UTC
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Look how modern the Church of England is...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28300618

I can't wait until they officially include LGBT Bishops .... and officially outlaw paedophilia, then I might start taking them a bit more serious
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tvrocks (388 D)
14 Jul 14 UTC
how to play Italy, france, and germany
All other countries have been done so i've decided to make a thread for the last 3 to hopefully make it so that there won't be any more on this topic. (though i am at fault for one of them)
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Maniac (189 D(B))
14 Jul 14 UTC
What are "agreed hypothetical facts"
There is a case going on in the UK about whether our surveillance service have broken any laws. As they can't confirm or deny what they have done the case is proceeding based on "agreed hypothetical facts". Is this bending the language too far?
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krellin (80 DX)
14 Jul 14 UTC
How to Play...
A hot blonde...regardless of coutnry of origin. Go.
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mollie bean (102 D)
13 Jul 14 UTC
doctrine of shock
New ppsc game please join
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Putin33 (111 D)
14 Jul 14 UTC
Happy 14-Juillet
Vive La France! What is everyone doing for La Fete Nationale?
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
14 Jul 14 UTC
Troll Supergroup
This thread is to hail the coming of the troll supergroup

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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
07 Jul 14 UTC
Chaqa Outreach
Gentlemen: Let's stage an intervention for our most troubled member, userID=30476

Why does Chaqa hate?
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denis (864 D)
13 Jul 14 UTC
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Germany
World Cup Champions
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
14 Jul 14 UTC
Overflow Thread
This is the overflow thread.
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Maniac (189 D(B))
14 Jul 14 UTC
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Women Bishops
Finally women bishops in the Church of England, about time.
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tvrocks (388 D)
12 Jul 14 UTC
How to play england
I've played as england a lot lately and have realized that i'm bad at it. So how exactly can someone do well as england?
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mapleleaf (0 DX)
04 Jul 14 UTC
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americans need to answer.....
When will Palestinians get THEIR Fourth of July?
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Crazy Anglican (1075 D)
14 Jul 14 UTC
WTA games
Not to comment on ongoing games, but I haven't played very many.
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Ogion (3817 D)
13 Jul 14 UTC
Quick question: accessing PMs?
Hey folks. I've never figured out how to get to the Messages page so i can look at old PMs and send them. What am I missing here?
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denis (864 D)
13 Jul 14 UTC
How to Play
With all these How to Play X (insert country) threads going around why not just get down to the simpler question how to play and thoughts about the game.
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