To be fair, Germany only supported Moscow to stop the English from getting a build, since he was at the same time sticking the knife in....

Plus I'm just a nice guy

Totally. Thanks for the chocolates, btw.

Russia, would you like me to support you into Livonia? Maybe Turkey will support Ukraine ot Moscow and then you can take St Petersburg? If you work against the English I will vacate Warsaw.

Uhhh... wouldn't that kinda cost him Rumania?

Well maybe Austria will try to earn favour by not moving there and surely Turkey won't as they are allies. I'm just giving Russia an option.

Czar, I propose we switch Rumania for Sevestopol. It will give me a wedge I need to advance...you regain a capital and can move more freely without having to protect Rumania, or Sevestopol.

Italy if you aren't going to agree to halting aggressions then I would like to ask Austria to support me into Tyrolia. In return I will support Austria into Venice.

Sultan, I agree. Lets make the switch.

Naturally, any offers of assistance that will be of benefit to me will be accepted.

I assume that means yes?

So you're going to let someone with a track record of stabbing and who has been doing his best to curry favor with your enemies in next to one of your SCs. Because of course he wouldn't think of selling you out to them to save his own skin once you're weakened.

Yeah... this will end well.

Refusing wouldn't end well either. Seriously? He is facing a strong unmovable Turkey and a willing accomplice in Russia with no help (possibly hindrance) coming from the Italians. What would you do? He appealed to everyone else first.

By the way. The only stab I've made was in expectation that England was about to give it to me worse. England certainly hasn't denied it. Either that or he was lying to you Italy. How does that make you feel? Your pretext that I'm untrustworthy is false. The German people are just cursed with many jealous enemies.

Actually, technically what he's doing is turning a neutral power into a hostile power. And while I certainly think it's a *shrewd* move on your part to place him in a position to be stabbed, I highly doubt you're going to court a war with the Turks, who have made it exceptionally clear what they will do to those who aid their enemies.

No, what I expect to happen is for you to move as you seem to be doing, then immediately stab the Austrians, pointing out to the Turks that you're helping them against Austria, with the assumption that the Turks will turn on me (ie: the not-so-helpful guy who insists on pinning people down in agreements), leaving you with one or two more centers, and hopefully giving you time to weaken the English before the Turks finish me.

Of course, I could be totally off base. It's late, and I haven't had enough caffiene. But I don't think I am ;)

To quote an italian who quotes bards "Words, words, all I hear from you are sweet words, but it is deeds we must speak of". You should spend more time expanding yourself so you can equal Germany's substantial girth.

I think you should move to Portugal and move away from Tyrolia and I promise that I'll leave the East to its devices (or I will help, whatever you want). I will back this with actions. Just say the word.

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Germany

You yourself said you had no agreement with the English, which I guess does mean you weren't 'untrustworthy' in the sense of 'breaking a deal'.

I halfway expected a stab. Unfortunately, I really had little choice in the matter, as my neighbors to the East had made it clear that holding the door to the Med was a low priority.

Had I been stabbed, I probably would have done what I could to hold you and England off, while giving my centers to Austria and/or Turkey, depending on which of them had screwed me the least.

In the current world, I'm still pretty much at the mercy of the Turks, who (at least to me) seem pretty resistant to any kind of reassurance they won't flatten me once the Austrians fall. Not a hell of a lot I can do about that, especially since Austria seems determined to pull me down with them, instead of leaving that flank secure while they fight their own battles

You should grow fat on enough centres to be able to defend youself.

Germany, you ask me to break an agreement, with the argument that you'll keep an agreement with *me* if I do so. Do you not see the slight problem with that logic?

The portugal thing is of lesser importance to me. My priorities are:
1) Secure Munich
2) Secure France

All you need to do is not attack me and my priorities are set. That requires you to break no agreements. You are then free to: A) Attack Austria or
B) Ally with Austria and attack Turkey
C) Move into the Atlantic and go nuts

You have made it clear that I will have no semblence of credibility if I go back on such a deal. You should have no worries about me breaking it, especially after pushing so hard for it. It does wonders for our defences rather than the status quo which pins down tons of armies.

Pretty sure anybody who would be willing to make a deal with Germany at this point DESERVES the stab they will undoubtedlyget...

Germany,

I will not move into what is currently your territory for all of 1905 and 1906, if you do not attack or aid others against me, and (both of us) stay out of Gascony and Bohemia.

That's the best deal I'm willing to offer, because I can keep that deal.Anything farther out is simply too unpredictable.

Turkey, Austria

If you want my help against the other, now would be the time to sell me. Austria, you've been extremely annoying recently, but Turkey, you've been extremely resistant to any form of long term agreement.

I have two units tied down in the West, and they will stay there, but I have four that can be deployed. This is sufficient to be decisive in your conflict.

England,

My deal re: Portugal holds. I unfortunately cannot help you against Germany at this time, due to chaos on my border.

Pontiff...Assist us in putting down Austria. I had hoped I didn't have to be so transparent so that Germany would hesitate getting involved. Obviously, that will now not be the case. I have been consistent in this game. I taunted Germany and Austria throughout this game, but I guess this was not enough for you to see my direction or allegiances. I called upon the 4 corners to fight Anschluss...I assumed you would know that I was one of the four corners. Anyway, I will continue across the continent. Please be my ally...and you talk too much. The Sultan.

Pontiff, you are also covered under the offers too, you realise.

Germany, although I am (at present) allied to you, displacing Tyrolia leads to him retreating to my SCs, so that I cannot do at present.

Well, I just recieved these messages now. But I was acting under the assumption that Austria was not supporting me into Tyrolia (understandably). I agree to Italys demands and will withdraw from Bohemia accordingly.

In other news, Would you like me to support you into St Petersburg Russia? Also, although Turkey is a member of the four corners, Italy isn't.

Italy is the new France.

Why, are you finally admitting that you intend to flatten him like Germany France?