It is supposedly in the works. I made note a while back that the colors of very difficult for the colorblind. Especially the global chat. I can never tell who says what. If it said "England says:....." it would be so much nicer. Seems like easy code to add.

(I have no qualms with red lines)

i don't agree with just about everything :-P

Also sometimes it is hard for me to distinquish a fleet, maybe if they were a brighter color, or if the armies and fleets were bigger.

"Austria as closer to Red"

Austria is very red already.

i remember when i joined we had a different map, it had a very washed out pale look. this one we use now is much better.

Hopefully the German/Austria colors can be tweaked to accommodate the color-blind without changing them too much, because I think color is just a matter of taste

Over on Facebook Diplomacy people said they wanted the color to look more like the boards they used, one with a white Russia etc. I based the colors on the board I use and so newer colors would look totally unnatural to me, I think the color scheme people prefer depends only on what they're used to

A way to select different color schemes would be good, but doing it with the current set-up may use a lot more resources, and would be a hassle because the colors are also used in text outside of the map (e.g. a purple Russia has purple text, a white Russia couldn't have white text, there are always other considerations when implementing these things)

Here's the color scheme I'm working on at the moment, let me know what you think: :-)
http://tinyurl.com/5dejlj

I think the one you're working on is awful Kestas - Please please please keep it the way it is.

sorry kestas I take that back - I followed your link and didn't like what I saw - I now realise the screen shoot I don't like is from an earlier version. Sorry for being so dense!

I am not a fan of the US spelling of the word colours.
How hard is it to make a code change on the spelling of the word colours?

I don't understand. WHich is new of the 6?

I am not a fan of Tarablus spelling of Tarablus. How hard is it to change to Terriblues.

"A way to select different color schemes would be good, but doing it with the current set-up may use a lot more resources, and would be a hassle because the colors are also used in text outside of the map (e.g. a purple Russia has purple text, a white Russia couldn't have white text, there are always other considerations when implementing these things)"
-- Sorry about the delay in my efforts on this Kestas - with my application for university being processed at this time I haven't had much free. Hopefully over Christmas I will be able to finish it and then this will be very simple to implement.

Which one?

Geez Figlesquidge, why the fuck should YOUR college application take precedent over our enjoyment of Diplomacy. How selfish of you. :P

The new proposed colour-scheme is kind of very saturated, but if this is the only way to make phpDip accessible for colourblind people, I am for it, although I find the present palette more "elegant".

It would be interesting to see how units of each power stand over the colour of other powers (as it happens at the end of a successful attack in spring).

As a colorblind person, Thank You Mac, for acknowledging that giving people equal access (in this case at least) is more important than looking pretty. I suspect that after a color change, if Kestas offered to change it back in 6 months, people would be telling him not to, that the proposed change isn't as pleasing.

its fine how it is whats the big deal

I don't care about the colours really, but its not simply a question of taste but of historical fact. For instance, Czarist Russia is often associated with the colour white.

Perhaps we could just have verious different colour scheme options. The current one being the default and other kinds being options that we personally switch to? This would accomodate everyone!

Centurian, this is possible, but very demanding on the system as maps would be generated on a "per person" basis rather than on a "per game" one. Or at least this is my understanding of the problem! :)

I'm fine with any scheme, really, but I can tell just from looking that this map is terrible for colorblind people.

What if there were suble patterns in each color, ie the Austrians had diagonal stripes of a lighter and darker red, Russia diagonal stripes the other way, France polka dots etc...would this help the color blind?

hey Tree,
with you sometimes getting confused on who is talking due to the colors do you try to find writing styles and match those tendencies to contries?

contries=countries

hey is there any way to also add the date of when a game was started?
or a date next to the name that tells the last time someone joined a game

I'm confused. People keep referring to the link Kestas posted as the new and proposed colours... as far as I can tell those were the old colours back in the day. I remember when the new map came out I thought it was too pale, though now I think the old map looks absolutely ridiculous.

I think the colours are fine as it is, but I can certainly understand the concern about colorblindness. I am quite fond of the order representation though so please don't change that.

If the board colours are better for those that are colourblind I wouldn't mind a switch because I'm sure I'd get used to it relatively quickly.

Thucydides said "its fine how it is whats the big deal"

The big deal is that 10% of the male population (so 9.99 % of the php Diplomacy population) is colorblind and have a hard time with the current colors.

well... you can just roll back the history and keep track if it gets that bad. i imagine if you are colorblind you would be used to dealing with that kind of thing

Well, I like the map the way it is, but if it is changed to better help colorblind people i dont see a problem with it. It's not as if i wont be able to see it because its been changed.

Thucydides, I have no reason to think your last post was meant to be deliberately offensive, but - despite of this - I would still feel offended if I had a disability (especially one that is invisible like dyslexia, colour blindness, learning disorders and alike) and you would tell me "it's your problem go and get is solved by yourself, you are probably already used to that, anyhow".

used to dealing with that kind of thing"

Yes, and you can just deal with new colors. You asked what the big deal is, thats it. Whats the big deal of you dealing with new colors?

(resisting urge to add 'you selfish twit...' damn.)

Instead of arguing about the merits of putting in new colors, which I believe should not be an issue, as it is a miniscule inconvenience for most of us, but to the colorblind haveing similar colors probably is a considerable problem, why don't we compromise a little, and leave some of the colors (the ones that do not cause difficulty for the color-blind) and change the ones that do?

Treefarn- what countries are difficult to see?

For me, Germany Italy and Austria all tend to blend together. And in the global chat, I can see some differences in color of the text, but I can't match it to colors on the map. So I never know who says what is global chat. (That problem is actually MUCH worse than the map issue, but usually nothing much gets said in global of import. If I need to know, either I ask in global or ask my wife. And I've never played a 'Global press only' game because of it.)

Hmmm...what if there was the "Germany said..." like proposed earlier? And what colors would you prefer to see them changed too, perhaps just shading them differently would produce the desired effect without making a bunch of people angry (unrightfully angry, but still pissed off)?

ah yes now i remember , the map before used to be so bright and gaudy. then it changed to a washed out look and now it is a good meduim between them. i like that the colors match the text, thats a great innovation and helps a lot.
treefarn are their no on site display options for color blind to changed the hue/contrast of the display colors to make them more discernible? are you uing mac,vista or xp?