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Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
29 Jun 11 UTC
What's in a defintion
A sign in a parking lot says American Made Cars only. What's in a definition?
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BenGuin (248 D)
03 Jul 11 UTC
Team Games and Declaration of War
I know that this idea have been going around a long time, but I want to add some twist to it be predetermining the alliances... anyone intrested?
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quebeclove (109 D)
22 Jun 11 UTC
SoW game
I would love to be a student in an SoW game. Would people have any interest?
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Draugnar (0 DX)
28 Jun 11 UTC
@Scmoo. He even admitted to me in our private press that he never thought to dislodge Gal and his last move, he forgot that a unit can't cut support against itself.
Oh don't get me wrong, I love playing Austria. Its fun as hell, because I like the stress. I just don't fare too well in the end game lol.

Professors - game 1

rdrivera2005 - 9
President Eden - 28

TA's - game 1

uclabb - 29 - france
Tru Ninja - 63 - england
basvanopheusden - 80 - russia
Draugnar - 88 - italy
Triumvir - 104 - germany
abgemacht - 105 - turkey
goldfinger0303 - 124 - austria

Students

Riphen - 406
Rhinoceros - 654
fabiobaq - 754
EmperorMaximus - 774
NinjaIntervention - 3112
quebeclove - n/a
ThisTakesGumption - n/a

Professors - game 2

Ivo_ivanov - 8

TA's - game 2

Bonotow - 286 - E/R/T
Pete U - 474 - F/T/I
scmoo472 - ? - E/T/I

Students - game 2

Cachimbo - 327
Leif_Syverson - 328

@Scmoo - do you know your GR?

@Ivo - professors comment on a thread created in the forum for this game. They are pretty much observers who comment on the gameplay of each country. What you do is still very informative. I remember when I was a student I always looked forward to hearing the professors praise or criticize my moves, to see how a true dip player would have done it. You give an opinion on their moves in retrospect, and possibly point to tell-tale signs that perhaps a stab was coming or something of the sort. TA's PM their student with advice and answer questions the student has on how to advance.

@ninjaIntervention - a game this length usually lasts 2 and a half months or so. It really depends on how quick the powers develop/how good the gameplay is. Games ending in 1918 last a lot longer than games ending in 1910. Good games tend to last longer.

@bas - you said that you would be away next week. So does that mean you are or are not able to be a TA for the first game (hopefully there will be more)? If you cannot do it, I will put Bonotow back in that spot. Sorry to demote you, but I am uncomfortable having more than two professors, because I feel like they will just repeat each other, and Eden and rdrivera had the job first.

We are halfway to having enough staff and students for a second game! Keep it up everyone! To any lurkers out there who read this, please come and volunteer!

Now, if there is only to be one game, then this is the roster for it. Ivo, pete, scmoo, bonotow, leif, and cachimbo thank you for all volunteering and I'm sorry I couldn't fit you into the first game. Still stick around though, because either 1) a second game will be created or 2) a player may drop out and we need a replacement pool.

Now I agree with a lot of what Tru Ninja says, so to put it all in the same spot, I'm gonna copy a lot of what he said, and add a few changes.

"Just to list some appropriate rules, I would urge any professors to seer clear of giving any comments that might sway future seasonal moves, like "x is in a tough spot going into the next season. He needs to be talking to Y and forming an alliance if he's going to pull out" or "Y should really ally with X in the next season so that he can accomplish his goal".

If the comments are based only on the things that have already occurred, it gives the students the ability to learn from both the TA and the professor in the forum for future games and doesn't influence the events in the current game.

Alternatively, TA's should find a means of giving the student the control over what to do with the TA giving advice on various ways to proceed. Get the student to come up with their own goals based on your suggestions. This might include things like "at this point in the game, you need to begin thinking about how to seal up the stalemate line to prevent a loss at the hands of X." If a student asks for advice on movement, help him to double-check his moves to ensure that the enemy can't retreat into his backfield. Using questions to answer questions promotes thought and allows the student to transfer learning to future games whereas a straight out answer only applies to this particular game.

Remember that this is a high profile game even though it's a low pot. Many people are putting a lot of their time into it and as such any NMR's or CD's will be looked on highly unfavorably and have negative repercussions in future sessions of the SoW for that player/TA. If you know that you're going to be away, please take the following actions:

students: please ask for a pause until such a time as you can appropriately return to the game. If it's longer than a week, please find a fill-in from the list of alternate students.
TA's: notify your student and find a temporary fill-in from among the alternate TA's because the game isn't going to pause from a missing TA."

Now, about the game setup. I will make the game, so don't worry about it at all, okay? It will be 48 hours, non-anon, WTA, 5 point buy-in, and password protected. When I make it (probably next wednesday) I will post a link on the new thread (which I will also make) and PM players the password. If you don't join by saturday, you will be replaced. Also, if each player could send a PM to me, saying that they have gotten in touch with their TA within one day of the game starting, that would be great. If there are less than 18 hours left in the phase and I haven't heard from you, a new TA will be assigned.

Commenting in the thread is forbidden for students and TA's until the game is over, when EOG's are expected. Phase commentary from professors is the main content of the thread, but questions from the public may be permitted, though leading questions is frowned upon.

Last thing, if two games are going to be formed, the TA list will be scrambled, but the players list will remain in GR order, with the bottom 7 playing each other, and then the next 7 up playing each other.

I believe that's it folks, thanks for bearing with this long post. I hope I covered everything and I hope its a great SoW session!
Triumvir (1193 D)
28 Jun 11 UTC
Sounds good. Looking forward to things getting started.
Scmoo is 1399, btw.
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
28 Jun 11 UTC
I'm ready for this to start as well. I think you covered everything pretty good goldfinger. I also think it would be neat to post a peanut-gallery SoW thread to allow anyone not playing or TAing in the game to post comments because I know that people love to do that and it would help keep the official thread clean.
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
28 Jun 11 UTC
If I have a game or so end before SoW game 2 starts, I'll co-prof with Ivo. Otherwise count me out. I couldn't TA in two SoW games at the same time.
Triumvir (1193 D)
28 Jun 11 UTC
My only issue with that is such a thread will likely fill up with "so-and-so should do this next year" and similar comments that could negatively impact the game. The teacher in me is cringing at the thought that my student might choose to take the advice of some random person on the forum rather than mine.

People join this game to get commentary/feedback from more seasoned players. What's the point in throwing it out to the general public? Not to say it can't or shouldn't be done. Just my concern.
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
28 Jun 11 UTC
I originally thought that same thing, but most of the people that comment are going to be those that are burning with an opinion and have to get it out. You might get a professional opinion now and again, but for the most part the comments would come from the slightly-above-average. It certainly would keep the official thread clean which is why I suggested it. Doesn't have to happen, though.
rdrivera2005 (3533 D(G))
28 Jun 11 UTC
Well, just to make a suggestion, on the last SoW game we set a rule that players/TA´s are not allowed to post on the forum and the general public could only post questions to the professors. Also, I don´t think having three professores is a problem, as if one of them is not able to comment/answers question the others will be aroung and also sometimes there are different points of views between them makes really interesting.
Also, of course, the professors should not talk about future moves, but it´s really hard not to comment on how the board should are moving or how the alliance are forming/breaking if you are suppose to comment the moves.
Leif_Syverson (271 D)
28 Jun 11 UTC
I endorse NinjaIntervention for the first game. I'm more interested in a graduate level SoW game anyway.
Triumvir (1193 D)
28 Jun 11 UTC
He's already listed for the first game.
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
28 Jun 11 UTC
I agree with rdrivera that 3 professors makes a good lot. You get a nice mix of opinions and there's always room for debate each season. Also, I hadn't thought about the fact that the general public can post questions in order to solicit a response from the professors.
Bonotow (782 D)
28 Jun 11 UTC
I thought goldfinger was in charge? Maybe we should just let it happen and ask goldfinger to get things started - instead of discussing how it might be done in an even better way for decades?
If there is no second game started, I will add Ivo as a professor. But as it is now, if we get enough students for a second game in the next week, we probably won't have enough professors to do 3 each game
Scmoo472 (1933 D)
28 Jun 11 UTC
Considering my GR is above 1k. Wouldn't it be better for me to be put as a Student (back up/second game)?
Likely so, Scmoo.
Professors - game 1

rdrivera2005 - 9
President Eden - 28

TA's - game 1

uclabb - 29 - france
Tru Ninja - 63 - england
basvanopheusden - 80 - russia
Draugnar - 88 - italy
Triumvir - 104 - germany
abgemacht - 105 - turkey
goldfinger0303 - 124 - austria

Students

Rhinoceros - 654
fabiobaq - 754
EmperorMaximus - 774
scmoo472 - 1399
NinjaIntervention - 3112
quebeclove - n/a
ThisTakesGumption - n/a

Professors - game 2

Ivo_ivanov - 8

TA's - game 2

Bonotow - 286 - E/R/T
Pete U - 474 - F/T/I

Students - game 2

Cachimbo - 327
Leif_Syverson - 328
Riphen - 406

Sorry Riphen, but lower rank takes priority in the first game. If we can round up 4 more people though, we can get a second game going. (We need a few more TA's though)
*we would need*
Riphen (198 D)
28 Jun 11 UTC
FML
Riphen (198 D)
28 Jun 11 UTC
scmoo takes my spot. Coooooooool just one more reason.
Riphen (198 D)
29 Jun 11 UTC
Some body gave me points to play in this game I better get to play.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
29 Jun 11 UTC
I don't want to start a controversy, but I think Riphen should be in the first game.

TAing and commenting is a lot of work and I want the students to be dedicated so that we don't waste our time. I don't mean to insult anyone, but some people in Game 1 haven't even finished a single game. I want to teach people strategy and diplomatic tactics, not game mechanics. And, Riphen was one of the first to sign up and has been very active in this thread. I don't think we should do this purely by GR rank.
Triumvir (1193 D)
29 Jun 11 UTC
Abgemacht +1
Well abgemacht, who would you knock out? Quebeclove and ThisTakesGumption both have not finished a game. Scmoo also was one of the first to have interest and is very active on this thread and in general. So how do we kick someone out based on your analysis? If you're going by that, Leif and Cachimbo also should be in the game because they are more experienced. I think what is best is that we try and recruit 4 more players (at least) and do two games. We have over a week until I start the game, so I think we have time to do that.
acmac10 (120 D(B))
29 Jun 11 UTC
If you guys need it, I'd be willing to be a "student".
That sounds great acmac10. What's your GR?
acmac10 (120 D(B))
29 Jun 11 UTC
Around 807 or so. Once the July GR comes around, I'll report that, too.
Scmoo472 (1933 D)
29 Jun 11 UTC
I would be willing to step down for Riphen. He did sign up before me. So in all fairness, he should be in my spot.
Riphen (198 D)
29 Jun 11 UTC
I was just kidding I just like fn with you Scmoo its all good. I'll be in the 2nd game. But I do like the list of TA's for the first game. That would be the only reason I play in the first game.
okay, scmoo, if that's your wish. But in all seriousness, we are now just three students away from a second game, so its quite possible everyone will play. To the TA's that hear that and are sweating, I will try and round up some more good players who would be willing to do it....I'd rather not have TA's doing more than one game....too much of a workload

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Ulysses (724 D)
03 Jul 11 UTC
Terrorist killed in Afghanistan just hours before posting a video online
http://tinyurl.com/3awf6d2
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Furball (237 D)
03 Jul 11 UTC
webDiplomacy: 1 year anniversary!
Hey all!! It's been 1 year since the first time I came online in webDiplomacy!!
I'm congratulating myself!!
Not exactly one year, but about 1 year!
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Sicarius (673 D)
24 Jun 11 UTC
War and Peace
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dD_ShockTrooper (1199 D)
03 Jul 11 UTC
I wonder...
With the new mute feature...
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Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
03 Jul 11 UTC
Community Reinvestment Act
If you do not know about this act, first passed in 1977 during the Carter administration and updated significantly during the Clinton adminstration, you should because it has had enormous impact on the United States.
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Sicarius (673 D)
02 Jul 11 UTC
Police
having an interesting convo about "peace" officers in a game. Thought a few others might like to share their opinions on it. Or call me an idiot for mine.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
30 Jun 11 UTC
This Time On Philosophy Weekly: Dawkins, Hitchens, and The New Atheists Get Heir Turn
I'm going to try something different with this week's go-around, as I think a few people believe me to be overly-agressive in pushing my opinions and also because this is a topic I've put off doing for a while now, as not a fan of the New Atheist movement, but not knowledgable enough about the particulars to try and tackle it. So, I aim to be more the receiver here, and I ask two questions, both inside--and I'll get my education from you all. ;)
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
27 Jun 11 UTC
It's only a theory...
see inside...
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manganese (100 D)
02 Jul 11 UTC
Pet peeves
A thread where you can voice what annoys you with Webdip games.
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Onar (131 D)
02 Jul 11 UTC
New Feature
So... what does the mute player function do? And how long has it been there?
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
29 Jun 11 UTC
work less party
http://worklessparty.org

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☺ (1304 D)
03 Jul 11 UTC
Live gunboat-105 EOG
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kestasjk (64 DMod(P))
02 Jul 11 UTC
webDip 1.01, user muting
Details on the new feature and version 1.01 inside
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♞ (100 D)
29 Jun 11 UTC
Neigh
Neigh
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Invictus (240 D)
01 Jul 11 UTC
Trip the light fantastic
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=62829
50 D, 24 hours, points per center, 10 days to join
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mr_brown (302 D(B))
02 Jul 11 UTC
Games not being processed?
Is the server down again? One of my games is not being processed. gameID=60766

Anyone else get weird things happening?
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deathbed (410 D)
02 Jul 11 UTC
join now
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=62827
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☺ (1304 D)
29 Jun 11 UTC
Tettleton's Corner
"Actually I would be perfectly content to post my thoughts in a thread that is completely ignored by anyone and everyone."

I invite you to never comment outside of this thread. Everyone else: Move along, nothing to see here.
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
02 Jul 11 UTC
Bug maybe?
Hey uh.... is it a bug that PE and WoY are shown as no longer in CD? Or are they actually not in CD? Can I get a second opinion? ID: 62827
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
02 Jul 11 UTC
Kids...
I hate the way that they get really quiet when you're putting in your diplomacy moves and when you get up to check on them (because quiet kids are synonymous with kids getting into trouble) and you find them throwing things into the toilet.

Yesterday I woke up after hearing the kids play in their room at 5:30 to find that one of them took off their diaper and thought it was a novel idea to do various things with their poop and top it off by peeing on his crib.
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Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
02 Jul 11 UTC
How taxes relate to winning in sports
How do NBA teams in a high tax environment compare to ones in a low tax environment in the 2010-2011 season.
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Cachimbo (1181 D)
02 Jul 11 UTC
Where my ratings at???
C'mon Ghost! It's July 2nd already!!!
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Leif_Syverson (271 D)
01 Jul 11 UTC
Stupid parking enforcement.
Story to follow..
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
01 Jul 11 UTC
Best pick up line I've ever ever seen
"If I were to ask you for sex, would your answer be the same as the answer to this question?"
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President Eden (2750 D)
02 Jul 11 UTC
I know this HAS to have been asked before, but...
I joined a gunboat game in place of a cheater who was banned in S01. The message saying the cheater was banned can't be read, so I get the notification at the top. My OCD senses are tingling. Is there any recourse for this interesting situation?
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Ulysses (724 D)
26 Jun 11 UTC
CHINA will overtake the US in military power within the next three years (FACTS INSIDE)
See below
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iotivedo (100 D)
02 Jul 11 UTC
Installation error
Hello, I'm a new webDiplomacy user, I installed the script on my server and I got this: http://playthegames.org/diplomacy/
Any Help? thx
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