Somebody should do a psychological study of the people who constantly try to shut down any kind of serious or informative discussions with bad humor.

Who was doing that?

You & Santa, probably one or two others.

I'd say YJ's intentional troll attempts qualify in a way. Of course, no one took him to be serious about the views he espoused.

I wasn't shutting anybody down at all... I expressed my (immense) satisfaction at the hilarity of the first page and then contributed to another aspect of the discussion (cleaning). Didn't tell a single person to stop talking and certainly tried to fix any derailment with a contribution after the fact.

Ask not for whom the YJ trolls, he trolls for thee.

You know, a little gasoline and a match does wonders for relocating Yellowjackets.

Say what you will, at least I'm not suggesting we burn fat women alive as more than one of my detractors has suggested doing with me... though actually...

Think of the energy savings! You could heat a reasonably-sized home for at least a week by burning the natural fats of an oversized woman for fuel. There's gotta be a market for this!

I said it worked to relocate Yellowjackets, not necessarily kill them. But if there is a little collateral damage, oh well. :-)

Relocate! That's brilliant, Draugnar! We relocate all the fat women to Siberia. All that added body heat will turn it from a barren, inhospitable tundra into a fertile paradise!

Still, as we would be shifting the center of mass far, far, far from the axis of spin, the consequences for the earth's rotation may be dire, indeed.

we should do a psychological study on people who think this was a serious or informative discussion.

I was going to say something, but it would just feed both of these trolls...

Oh, come on, Draug, do you seriously think OP was looking for a constructive response here? I mean REALLY? It should be entirely obvious that OP's sole purpose was to start a war between the fat lovers, the fat haters, and people like me who just add coal to the furnace for fuckall's sake.

And even if I'm wrong, well that makes it about twice as funny :P

How is there any other answer besides "If she does it for you stay with her, if she doesn't leave." Christ, what is the discussion here, you need to be attracted to the man or woman you spend the rest of your life with. If this woman isn't attractive to him have a talk with her about it, and if she isn't conducive find someone you are attracted to. Shallow stuff is shallow but it matters, better to do it now than lose interest after a long term relationship or marriage.

"people like me"

Boils on the ass of humanity

"Christ, what is the discussion here"

The discussion moved beyond the ridiculous OP of "I'm not attracted to my wife, who is fat, but she cleans for me and would make a good wife oh what should I do."

And you know that, which is why you inserted your stupid story about you not sleeping with a larger woman even though she supposedly wanted to, because you have to project yourself as some sort of player.

girlfriend not wife.

"And you know that, which is why you inserted your stupid story about you not sleeping with a larger woman even though she supposedly wanted to, because you have to project yourself as some sort of player. "

Not what I said at all, I said I was given crap for not sleeping with a larger woman, which I said shows a double standard, which I later hypothesized shows they way our society sees sexuality. The reserved female and the virile male. I can receive shit about not taking a girl home because it shows the girl is flawed that a sexual creature like me wont even touch her, but if a girl didn't take me home (as often is the case) it is perfectly normal, because a female is not seen in the same light. I didn't even read the OP, I read the title.

WTF is wrong with you Santa? You gotta bang them fatties or you are not really a man. :P

@ Yellowjacket - that would be a more valid complaint if "die in a fire" were actually a literal instruction and not a figure of speech.

What? You mean your still looking for validity in anything I've said on this topic?

Silly man, there is none to be found.

Honestly, the best are fat chicks who've lost the weight, because even though they look good now they are still fat at heart, and ripe for degradation and abuse.

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This is stupid. Why can't some of you accept that unless both parties are sexually attracted to each other, there isn't going to be a relationship. I would never stop being friends with a fat girl, but I can say that unless she had one hell of a personality, I wouldn't sleep with her.

Ummm, a few pointers. 1. A lot of men are attracted to large women. There are whole porn sites devoted to that very topic, in fact (from what I hear!), and witness the old masters' paintings from the 1400s on up. 2. Having a large variety of body types is good for the survival of the species. In a famine, it's the most efficient metabolisms that can store the most energy that survive! 3. Recent research has uncovered the fact that for some people, their hormonal balance is best when they are fatter rather than slimmer. 4. In today's society, being overweight is a stigma, but so are curly hair, red hair, dark skin, freckled skin, brown eyes, blue eyes, short legs, a flat nose, a prominent nose, slanted eyes, round eyes, etc. in various societies around the world today, and even more so in the past. Let's get over it. 5. I don't think it's really socially very wise to be discussing physical characteristics as a blanket qualification for a relationship. And I'm done with this thread.

@mujus -- very scientific analysis...and therefore retarded in light of the topic of discussion. I sure as hell hope for the sake of your future wife (because I can't imagine you are married with this silly notion) that your idea of love isn't getting you and your hefty wife-to-be genetically tested to see if you are compatible and beneficial to the species.

What the hell is so damned hard to figure out that *physical attraction* is not a choice. It is simply something that comes from within you....and yes, it is largely based upon cultural influences.

You pointing out (correctly) that fat women were attractive in the 1400's is because it was a sign of *wealth* if you had enough wealth to eat enough and be lazy enough to be fat! Thus large women were socially acceptable.

In today's society, please don't even suggest for a second that large women are socially desirable within the culture...and I am **NOT** judging large women...I'm simply stating the our CULTURE (globally!!!) finds it unattractive, and thus 99% of all fashionand advertising uses smaller women....meaning that from the first images a child is subjected to, he is taught, and therefore learns and is programmed to perceive, smaller woman as beautiful. It's not that hard to figure out.

If anything, it is offensive and assholish for you to suggest that there is something wrong with somebody who, through no fault of their own, is simply not attrcted to large women. As for me,I'm sorry, huge rolls of flesh, the pock-marked look that fat people sometimes get, the inability to move correctly...it is not attractive. The idea that the person I am looking at has a heart that is pumping twice as hard as it should to keep the double-sized body running is not attractive. Obesity is not attractive to most people, and not healthy, period.

Yes, culture indoctrinates people into objectifying women, which includes fatphobia. Women are only good as sex objects in our culture. This fact shouldn't be celebrated. And I have a hard time listening to most abrasive, hateful and anti-social person in this forum talking about what is & is not "attractive".

Genetically speaking women are more advanced than men...women has 46 chromosomes that carry information and man have only 45...46th is the Y chromosome who only determine sex and don carry any genetic code worth of mention. That being said, man are dying species..so watch football, drink, make disgusting noises and enjoy your life while you still can ;)

Hey Krellin me and you should get together and go hoggin'. It's loads of fun.

Whoever shows up the next day with the bigger pair of panties wins!