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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
12 Dec 11 UTC
A Question About US/UK TV...
Well, all my friends like Doctor who, so I've taken to watching it...and a friend told me DW was still in B&W in 1966...while Kirk was fighting that hilariously-rubber-suited Gorn in color already? On the other side of the coin...we seem to borrow some TV shows and ideas from Across the Pond...why is the BBC behind tech-wise and US TV behind "idea-wise?" (Are we...or is this just me?)
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
12 Dec 11 UTC
Is the US really behind idea-wise? How many british/british inspired shows are popular in the US?

The Office
Dr. Who
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
12 Dec 11 UTC
Well, I didn't want to just ask "Why is/was the BBC behind tech-wise?" and come off anti-English...

Plus, I think as a culture we maybe are a bit behind England...not ideas-wise, maybe, but...

Well, they've got their "English Empire Exceptionalism" out of the way, it seems, and that sort of idea's still rampant in the US, that we can be the world police...or should be...

And maybe we'd be liked more if we ditched it?

(I dunno, I do feel that way, but I also didn't want to just rag on the BBC's tech.) :)
Putin33 (111 D)
12 Dec 11 UTC
Three's Company is probably the most popular one isn't it? And all those reality game shows.

The US has plenty of solid original shows now though.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
12 Dec 11 UTC
Who cares.

Just watch Peep Show, everything will solve itself.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
12 Dec 11 UTC
@Putin

Yeah, I was just thinking of things that are currently popular.
Alderian (2425 D(S))
12 Dec 11 UTC
@abgemacht, I've heard of several other shows that started out in the U.K. Two that come to mind are Whose Line Is It Anway and Coupling I think. I'm sure I've heard of others but don't remember the names at the moment.

@obi, in the U.S., as I'm sure you are aware, we've had a whole bunch of remake movies lately. I imagine the money people are happy to take a good idea and use it again, both in movies and TV. Doesn't necessarily mean there aren't good ideas in the U.S., we just aren't afraid to bring someone else's good idea back home.
Draugnar (0 DX)
12 Dec 11 UTC
And while we remake series from the past and present, we do have some great original programming. Shows like Burn Notice and Covert Affairs, White Collar and Chuck, and the ever original award winning Monk prove we can do original here as well.
largeham (149 D)
12 Dec 11 UTC
America did make Seinfeld and Arrested Development.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
12 Dec 11 UTC
...Really, guys, I just wanted t know hy the BBC was behind in terms of production values/camera technology! XD

The "idea" thing was just to avoid "obi's bashing the British" talk...

We have plenty of great entertainment ideas, sure...! LOL
Pepijn (212 D(S))
12 Dec 11 UTC
At that time, the 1960's, most (if not all) European broadcasters were state-controlled and did not air commercials, I think. So maybe there was no outside pressure to urge the transition to colour.

Also there was an issue with the colour television transmission standard, the US are using a different colour standard (NTSC) than most of Europe (PAL), maybe it took some time to reach an agreement between the European countries.

That might explain the late introduction of colour; I am not sure if the UK is or was behind in camera technology. Regarding production value, it would not surprise me if in the 1960's European shows had a lower budget than American ones, but I know nothing much about it.
As a kid in the early 60's I did wonder why Stingray said it was in "colour" (well "videcolor" anyway*) when it was actually in black and white on our TV. I assume that adding colour to a broadcast which still carried the black and white signal, so that the same transmission could be received clearly by both existing black and white TVs and by colour capable TVs, was technically difficult.

In the mid-60's new frequencies were introduced along with a new picture format. Older VHF televisions used 405 line pictures whereas UHF televisions used 625 lines (NTSC was only 525 lines) and it was these transmissions that carried colour information. This was done (IIRC) by having a brightness signal for the black and white TVs and, at a higher modulation, the colour information. Black and white only TVs ignored the higher modulations whereas the colour TVs received and processed this along with the brightness information to generate the colour images.

* The opening credits to Stingray start in black and white and, after zooming in on the logo for "Videcolor" switch to colour (except in the UK in 1964!)
2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
12 Dec 11 UTC
American appliances are light years ahead of their British counterparts, TV included. I ruined at least a dozen shirts in a British washer/dryer.
SteveGod (179 D)
12 Dec 11 UTC
"American appliances are light years ahead of their British counterparts, TV included"

Lets be honest about this - the majority of the appliances that both our countries by are imported from China or similar... Back in the day that might've been a different story, but tech across the world is pretty much all within a year or each other in developed countries.

Eg: 3 D TV was broadcast on mainstream channels in both the UK and US in 2010.
SacredDigits (102 D)
12 Dec 11 UTC
I think the relative advances of every kind of appliance is kind of indicative of what the culture cares most about. For instance, when I was in Japan, they had crazy high tech toilets.

I'm not joking, those things were insane. Heated seats, automatic air freshener disposal. a number of possibilities for checking your urine for diabetics, detailed analysis of how often you went and how much, etc.
In Germany, 30 years ago, the toilets in a hotel had a... well... a shelf, down inside but above the water level, so you could ... err ... examine ... what you'd produced before you flushed it away. I kid you not.
2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
13 Dec 11 UTC
I stayed at a hotel in Austria that had a shelf toilet. Generally not a good idea. Shelf toilets were not built for giant American asses. I think the best part was seeing your crap just, well, sitting there.


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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
12 Dec 11 UTC
Lowes pulls advertising from TLC's All-American Muslim
Good to know Lowes thinks a show about people merely living as families in the United States is a political lightning rod. Home Depot it is.
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solo1805 (111 D)
12 Dec 11 UTC
Question about World Diplomacy.
How can a FLEET in Poland move to Ukraine?
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Invictus (240 D)
12 Dec 11 UTC
A Conspiracy I Can Get Behind
Was Russia the one behind Stuxnet?
http://the-diplomat.com/2011/12/10/was-russia-behind-stuxnet/2/?all=true
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
08 Dec 11 UTC
NFL Week 14 Pick'Em
This is a bit late. Damn Thursday games
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OttoBismarck (0 DX)
12 Dec 11 UTC
Please Ready in live gunboats
It's so annoying when you don't, especially on build phases. I'm going into civil disorder just because the game I'm in now is so frustrating
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
07 Dec 11 UTC
MadMarx ABI-50 EoG's
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=69938
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
11 Dec 11 UTC
Webdipmods
I have a little story


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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
19 Nov 11 UTC
Cut-Throat "Hosted" GR Challenge Game
Details within... but give me 5 minutes!
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Yonni (136 D(S))
10 Dec 11 UTC
Top 5 albums of your lifetime
By your lifetime, I mean music that you listened to when it came out. I'm born in '87 but I'm not going to list Nevermind. Kapeesh?
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Putin33 (111 D)
12 Dec 11 UTC
To my Hungarian friends
Anybody know where you can find Szalon Cukor? Every place I look is out of stock.
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korben (153 D)
12 Dec 11 UTC
live game 273
looking for 2 more players...
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santosh (335 D)
11 Dec 11 UTC
Errors
The map isn't displaying, and I get:
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krellin (80 DX)
10 Dec 11 UTC
XBOX 360 of PS3??
OK...I am a *PC Gamer* at my core...but with the family, there is are certain advantages and positives to owning a Console as well.

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Maniac (189 D(B))
10 Dec 11 UTC
It's been a while
Who wants to play Ankara Crescent?
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
11 Dec 11 UTC
I NEED A NEW FRIEND ASAP!
gameID=74265

The mods banned one of my friends : (
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EmperorMaximus (551 D)
11 Dec 11 UTC
Need one more player
gameID=74293
WTA
36 hour
Password: winter
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taos (281 D)
07 Dec 11 UTC
what do you think about fat women?
i am looking for an advice
i have this girlfriend who is really but really fat(120 kilo or more)
she is a really good women works,cleans,smart and other stuff you may be looking in a wife
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
06 Dec 11 UTC
Favorites thread
We will introduce and attempt to justify our favorite things. See inside
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santosh (335 D)
11 Dec 11 UTC
Aargh
I can't mark as read the unread messages in my gunboat game, one of the players got banned. I'm OCD about removing notifications from the top bar, and this is killing me. Help!
3 replies
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
08 Dec 11 UTC
better nuclear power?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16085385

there's a good talk by bill about this on TED, if anyone is interested...
5 replies
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Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
08 Dec 11 UTC
Exposing Obama's Bald-Faced Lies
Listening to Obama's spewing of the standard socialist rhetoric demands they face the light of day for what they are, bald-faced lies.
8 replies
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velocity (570 D)
11 Dec 11 UTC
What to do about a multi player in my game?
Hello all. I'm seriously concerned about a multi-player situation in one of my current games. Who do I contact to look into it?
2 replies
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Argento (5723 D)
11 Dec 11 UTC
New game "For the old times..."
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
11 Dec 11 UTC
"I want a good gunboat"
good game everyone
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Geofram (130 D(B))
08 Dec 11 UTC
Gun Control
So two more people were shot (and killed) on my university campus today. Fucking coward Americans and their retardedly lax gun control legislation ruining our Reading Day. More than 80 gun deaths a day, are you kidding me?
198 replies
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Gazelle123 (127 D)
11 Dec 11 UTC
Live game
gameID=74485
10 min/phase , ancient med, starts at 4:30
:)
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Gazelle123 (127 D)
10 Dec 11 UTC
Live game
Simple live game, 5 mins/phase
5 D to join
URL: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=74484
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The Czech (40499 D(S))
10 Dec 11 UTC
The knife show gameID=74451
Wish some people knew how to play.
2 replies
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dr. octagonapus (210 D)
10 Dec 11 UTC
How to resign?
^how do you resign from a game?
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