I would say the children who are too young to work should receive at least an education of general knowledge, and we should definitely give them medical knowledge. I see only how we can benefit from this, especially when they get older.

Your next Head Councilor, everyone...

Hah.

Not necessarily.....

@TrPrado- we live in a COLONY in the 19th century.... NOT a 20th or 21st century established nation or industrial colony. We don't even have enough surplus to expand our population. We are concerned about map making, food production, and infrastructure; we don't even have a building for this schooling to take place in. You are jumping several steps ahead of our abilities because of your clouded judgement. I am saying that in order to progress to education we need to create surplus and in order to create surplus the children need to work.

Children over a certain age, yes. We still need to give them a basic education before that age though.

Why can't we teach them in someone's home?

@TrPrado- If you paid attention to anything I said instead of being a political pundit and speakerbox you would notice I agreed with HR about waiting for a census but simply warned that we need to be aware of our abilities and our needs over our opinions.

You yourself also previously said we need to plan ahead.

I recommend the teachers be the elders for one. They may be too old to work, but they know the skills of the land. Likely, that is already the way things work here. The children should learn the farming, fishing, hunting, etc. techniques of their people, augmented by the superior tactics we can give them. But for right now, those too young to work should be put into the care of the elders.

Seriously fuck this. I am withdrawing from the race for HC, If every god damn thing I say is going to be fucking micro managed by TrP and HR simply because I didn't get into god damn specifics then why the fuck would I want to be a part of this. All I said was that we need to prioritize advancing the entire society into a secure atmosphere of surplus over education we can't afford. I never said we should have young young children work but I do think that a 12 year old is a capable worker; that is historically proven. In the 18th and 19th centuries children as young as 12 fought in wars and worked in factories and fields. and on TrP's point their are 450 HUTS in the colony, so which hut is big enough for 100+ children?

I'm not sure where I disagreed with 12 year olds working.

And Cyrus is correct. The elders doing teaching, possibly with the help of the missionary (it was usually the religious that did the teaching back then) that would be ideal. We don't want to remove adult labour to do teaching, and it would get something useful out of the elders and give them something to do.

Stop the stupid campaigning, everyone who is running for HC. It isn't a big deal. Seriously.

That's my point HR I never got into specifics I made a general claim and your pet TrPrado used it as a political shot at me. So I am withdrawing you can have the god damn HC position. It isn't that important to me but having everything i say micromanaged by a fucking scumbag like TrP is. And you know what I don't give a fuck how bad this makes me look, you know why? I am not running.

All right, change my vote to HR. Don't need a whiny bitch leading a new colony.

When on earth did TrPrado become my pet? Wasn't he running separately? Chill out.

I also disagree with his idea of using a hut - I'm sure they can be taught outside for now until we can get something like a Church built which can double up as a place of worship and a school. That's some way in the future though, naturally.

hey bo- FUCK YOU! you don't need to change your shitty vote, because as I said I pulled out.

Actually, I do, because there are 15 candidates leff. Please change my vote.

change it yourself. thats how the god damn things been run the entire time. You go you revote and your most recent vote is the one that counts.

Magistrate Abge, when does the next month start? Is there a set crossover time we should be memorizing?

The phase will be ending in the next few hours. There is still some time left to make adjustments to the tasks.

I didn't say we had to teach everyone right now, just that we should figure out who we teach. And how. Planning ahead is the way to go. And if the missionary and alchemist at the very least supervise the teaching, we can indoctrinate them to have a stronger work ethic and make them more loyal to the King.

So, having read up, I think it's pretty clear what our priorities are. We cant improve point production yet because at current levels we're only barely surviving without creating surplus in wheat and wood. We're on those levels because we are on minimum level of workers.

So we should look at ways to (1) increase workers and (2) increase their effectiveness. It's not entirely clear to me how we can increase workers, I suppose the census will tell us more. I am not against activating more of the population (including children), but ONLY if it is socially and culturally accepted here. No sense in upping production at the cost of revolution.
As for increasing effectiveness, The farmer is now tasked with 'observing resource mgmt'. I suggest we move more concretely and
##ASSIGN FARMER to teach locals to use the most effective farming methods, and give feedback how we can improve production.

For clarity, are we using the terms "colonists" and "natives" interchangeably? Naturally, historically this has been different. In any event, I think it's vital to discover if there are more people / resources outside of our current scope.

Also, could somebody fill me in on the skillset of the Alchemist? We should not leave him idle, but for the life of me I cant think of something useful for him to do.

TMOW, the farmer wished to establish his own farm with his family before he was willing to start teaching locals.

Alchemist: I am an expert in the sciences and arts if Alchemy. I can serve as a healer in lieu of a proper Physician or as a teacher to educate the population. I can also research the natural world to make great discoveries that will help advance your civilization.

TMOW, yes, we're using "colonist" and "native" interchangeably. And the Alchemist has some medical knowledge and can make appropriate tonics and potions to help in medical regards. He is currently set to observe the colonists, specifically for scientific purposes.

Ok, clear. Too much thread in too little time.
Also, I support the notion of a separate thread in which the active votes are displayed.

CB -- Do no back out of running for our Supreme Leader. You are wanted, and have done an excellent job.