"How can you say these protestors have no aim or direction? How dare they stand on the sidewalk and fight for something different than the status quo."
AGAIN--and I caps that not out of annoyance at you, largeham, but jsut because I've answered that poin t like three times already--I don't have a problem if they want to protest...
I have a problem that they're protesting aimlessly, and *yes,* when your official stated goals are "stop human greed" and "stop all lobbying in D.C.," and you propose to affect this change by standing around forever in a city square, with no leader, and the most media coverage you've gotten is due to your members doing anything to get on TV, including standing nude and holding a sign saying "Listen, don't look" (while they're not even talking, I might add)...
Your movement is officially classified as "whiny" and "directionless."
These folks claim to derive some inspiration from the Egypt/Arab rallies...
1. Those rallies HAD A SET AIM--DEPOSE A DICTATOR/GOVERNMENT (or at the very least that was *a* broad, stated goal, and it was something all parties shared and agreed, and was concrete..."get a new government" is at least a concrete goal, "end hjuman greed" is an abstract notion without definition and, as such, is a pipe dream.)
2. Those rallies had mass structure and organization. from facebook and twitter pages coordinating when and where to rally to leaders of those rallies--albeit relatively anonymous leaders, but still leaders--and so on.
3. These people didn't jsut sit atound and basically have a sit in and strip nude for cameras, they had--gasp!--a REAL protest, wherein, well, they actually protested a concrete issue and did so in a set manner,
4. In Egypt and those other places, these were people rallying because of tyrannical dictators and economic conditions that make The Great Recession look like a spike upward...in other words, this sort of display was their last, last option, and they treated it as such, and showed MASSIVE restraint (for the most part)...whereas this is an uncontrolled Summer of Love II for hipsters and wanna-be hippies who are well-fed and white-bred, largely, and those voices that are NOT in that demographic are being drowned out by the antics of those people...hence my saying these folks need some organization if they want to be taken seriously.
5. The very name of the movement speaks to their intent: OCCUPY Wall Street. This isn't about change or a desire for real goals that someone's prepared, in the end--because, you know, strikes and protests generally have ends and even meetings to discuss terms...like, again, EGYPT had--but rather just folks occupying space and staging a protest fueled as much out of aimless arrogance--and arrogance I'm OK with, but not aimless arrogance--as any actual grievances they might have. Again, *unlike* Egypt, many of these folks come from well-fed, decent-income homes...rather than, say, the folks in Egypt who were literally earning next to nothing or were owed weeks or months worth of pay and trying to support a family.
When THAT happens...yes. Storm the Bastille. Take the Square. I'll support you.
When you're fuelded by a whiny desire for attention, and because you want slightly more comfort over the already-confortable lives you lead, and your protest is aimless, leaderless, has mixed aims at best, and gets most of its media exposue vie\a the antics of its memebers rather than the actual content of the movement--and that's on the protesters and not the media, the media didn't ask them to have their ladies strip nude next to a pretentious hand-drawn sign--and you claim to be "inspired" by the efforts of people who were literally starving and beaten down and used protest as a last resort, and even THEN had the wits about them, oin the midst of REAL suffering, to actually band together and organize in a way the whole world took notice of the CONTENT and were able to learn the reasons WHY the protest was going on...
You and your protest fails.
You are not a revolutionary.
You're a child who refuses to grow up and take responsibility in life...
Or even TRY! THAT'S what gets my goat as much as anything else...*I* don't have a job, but I at least still try, and make practical use of my time--aside from this--by tutoring and studying and such...
I'm at least contributing what I can! And trying to do more!
THESE Flower Children-wanna be's are jsut moaning and groaning without aim over pie-in-the-sky ideals because life's a wee bit tough and they don't want to measure up to it, even so much as to organize their own damn protest and seek real goals!
When times are tough, you get tough...Egypt did it...Tunisia did it...Libya--sort of--did it...
I'm at least trying to do it...
I have zero sympathy for those who don't even try, and that's what they come across to me as, bumps on logs who don't try to even organize and work towards their own little sit in in a constructive fashion towards a constructive end...
For all their "we hate lobbying!" moaning, I'll BET if they'd actually lobbied, if they're that numerous and that determined, they'd have gotten some sort of representation in Congress, because people want to be seen right now as helping the job-seeking.
But no.
Instead, its "self-described renaissance men" sitting in tents singing kum-bay-ya and leeching off society and not even trying to stand tough like the Egyptians did...
Or like their fellow Americans are at least trying to do.
They sicken me--and I'm not perfect, I don't claim to be so, and don't at all claim to be a success...
But AT LEAST I'm not giving into failure and complaining about it in public nudity shows and then having the AUDACITY to compare myself to brave men and women who just protested under threat of DEATH...and still established real goals and stuck through the tough times.
Despicable.
On the Proper Usage of Fleets
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