Hey redhouse thanks for the Jol man, we love him (at least for now :-p).

=)

WE WANT MOAR DUTCH AWESOMENESS

Francisco Elson and Dan Gadzuric are low-level NBA players, good enough to stay on rosters and make a pro NBA career but otherwise unremarkable.

"There's only one sport and that's Soccer." That right there kills your credibility with pretty much any American.

Baseball World Cup? Are you serious? No self-respecting baseball fan would even acknowledge that such a competition exists. MLB doesn't let pro players compete in it. You're boasting about your one medal in 2011? Even giving the BWC some respect -- which I don't -- that's the only BWC medal Netherland has ever won, over 70+ years. At least U.S. amateur players (and since 1998, minor leaguers) have picked up 15 medals in that timespan. But it doesn't matter, because BWC is a joke.

Good point about Rutger Hauer, missed him.

"There's only one sport and that's Soccer." That right there kills your credibility with pretty much any American.

That's of course because you're not as cool as the Dutch.

Rofl ulytau.

"There's only one sport and that's Soccer." That right there kills your credibility with pretty much any American.
True, but you're only 300 mlln, that's less than 5% of the world's total population.

"Baseball World Cup? Are you serious? No self-respecting baseball fan would even acknowledge that such a competition exists. MLB doesn't let pro players compete in it. You're boasting about your one medal in 2011? Even giving the BWC some respect -- which I don't -- that's the only BWC medal Netherland has ever won, over 70+ years. At least U.S. amateur players (and since 1998, minor leaguers) have picked up 15 medals in that timespan. But it doesn't matter, because BWC is a joke."

So how does the US ever prove its national level of play stands the global test?

ulytau is the man.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/06/14/article-0-0A071DFB000005DC-622_634x409.jpg

My gift to ulytau for the night.

What the heck is ''soccer''?

Soccer is a term reserved for speaking with people who are not as cool as the Dutch and therefore cannot possibly understand what football is.

@ ulytau
Can the British be a part of that particular club too please?

Hmm, let's start an educational series for those who were so unlucky to not have any connection to the Netherlands and therefore cannot be blamed for they lack of understanding of football.

In football, you cannot touch the ball with your hand unless you're one of the following:
Goalie in the box
Luis Suárez
Thierry Henry
Diego Maradona

Of course, the British have the Dutch connection courtesy of Billy III & II.

England invented the term soccer, odd that the English forgot that.

-1 Putin. Bashing England does not make Holland cooler. Remember, the purpose of this thread is to come to an agreement on how awesome Holland is, preferably supported by pictures of drunk people.

@ ulytau, heck yes, of course I forgot about the Billy boys.

But Bashing America does, got it.

@ redhouse, your beer is not the reason why we make our trips to amsterdam, we have something else in mind. Our own beer is pretty good too.

^THM started it

Something about sports.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Euwe

Hey redhouse on Max Euwe, I must reluctantly point out that the Americans had the great and wonderfully mad Paul Morphy, now there was a chess player.

THM started what? You created this thread about how Dutch are cooler than Americans. I thanked Dutch genes for Petra Verkaik, but questioned the coolness of wooden shoes. You cited brilliant Dutch artists, scientists, and tradesmen. I acknowledged some notables, gave you generally fair marks given your limited population, but noted a weakness in sports. You attempted to bolster a claim of Dutch sports supremacy based on one medal in 70+ years of an amateur baseball competition that nobody would even know about if not for wikipedia, and the position that soccer is the only sport that counts. Since like many Americans I consider soccer to be a boring fringe international sport ranking somewhere between hockey and synchronized swimming, I guess we're not going to see eye to eye on the value of Dutch accomplishments in soccer. Feel free to hug your many World Cup championship trophies and feel superior.

You started with sports, so redhouse pointed to a rather unremarkable World Chess Champon, who was nevertheless cool because he was Dutch.

Enhh, although I'm both a chess and bridge player, I don't really buy the "mental sports" angle despite what the IOC has approved. Is Diplomacy a sport?

Only a Dutchman can answer that question.

OK.....seriously....what American REALLY GIVES A SHIT is some broke-ass European country suddenly wants to say, "Uhhh...sorry...WANNA BE FRIENDS again????" Because the fucking Euro didn't dominate the US Dollar as predicted.

FUCK YOU STUPID EUROPEANS!

You're not even trying with your trolling as it certainly doesn't make Holland cooler.

the orange comes from William The Orange. thats pretty neat the king put a color in his name. I wish Obama was Obama the Magenta.

oh then William took over Britain after Cromwell's wee revolution. by take over he was welcomed by the British populous. probably because he was dutch and they wanted to have a cool king.

so in retrospect does that make Britain dutch?

@ulytau
In football, you cannot touch the ball with your hand unless you're one of the following:
Goalie in the box
Luis Suárez
Thierry Henry
Diego Maradona"

Don't lump Suarez with those guys, he got caught and took the punishment with some dignity. Maradona cheekily denied it and Henry played dumb until the ridicule fell away. You can say some bad things about Suarez (who incidentally played club ball in... THE NETHERLANDS, where he learned to be a bit of an asshole), but he's at least a step above the other two.

And while we're teaching about sports, the Dutch need to learn a few things:
The Baseball World Cup means nothing.
When playing football/soccer, one is supposed to remain on his feet unless physically unable to do so.

"Don't lump Suarez with those guys, he got caught and took the punishment with some dignity. "

Dignity? You mean gloating on the sideline? Suarez and dignity don't go together. It's easy to take it with dignity when the "punishment" is absolutely nothing, since time expired.

He didn't gloat on the sideline. He walked off looking depressed and hung his assuming his team would lose anyway. He had every right to be happy when they didn't. What Suarez did may be considered objectionable, but he did it, he was punished accordingly, and it's not really hist fault that Ghana failed to capitalize. He willingly accepted the red card in order to give his team a chance to survive, and survive they did, that should be all there is to it. Compare that to players like Henry and Maradona who used their hands to give their teams goals, ensuring victory, and you see a clear difference.