"I would suggest you start a different set of Leagues if you want to alter it that much."

thanks for the suggestion, though i don't think there are enough players to justify another league... that may depend on demand.

"If you want to talk about altering scoring to make wins worth more and draws less or making the leagues semi-anon, we can talk. But this is just madness. :-)"

we can talk about it, i'd be against any semi-anon, as i always have been, given that i like to know my opponents, and getting to know them is really one of the more interesting parts of league play.

And what do you propose for more points to solos? i'm not averse, but what benefits are there? getting three 3-way draws in a single league season doesn't earn you a victory if one person manages a single solo. I don't think solos are undervalued at present... but i may be wrong. And solo should be rare, because good players shouldn't allow them.

'Babak and I have talked in private a lot about a system very similar to this.'

i knew there was talk, i just didn't know what you were suggesting... :)

' It is impossible to play without significant metagaming. It is not Diplomacy as it was intended to be played.' - to me this is not the point of a diplomacy league.

The point is to play the league, and try to earn the highest position in that league. I know i've done my own share of meta-gaming this leauge season. (well it's meta-to the league, it's all within the league and league rules) but i see this as an integral part of the fun.

I do however think there is room for some change, especially if people aren't happy.

@draug - "Significantly less metagaming" - I enjoy this aspect of the leagues.
"Getting to play with more people" - I like getting to really know the six others I play with over the course of four games.

i agree on both. Though i think when you're in the top 14 for a few seasons you're not going to be seeing much new blood, and you could easily know the 21 P-leaguers (which my suggested system would have) with 6 new faces each season.

That is also why i consider making these games semi-anon a bad thing. (and i don't see what me being a mod has to do with it...

'Why are the concerns of the 7 players in the 'Premier League' being valued so highly? The only discussion so far seems to be centering on these select few players '

i think the leagues may be broken at the top. The dissatisfaction at the top is an indicator of this. And if every player in any league goes form the D leagues (where i started a few seasons ago) to the P leagues (where i may get next season if enough at the top drop out) then eventually they too will become dissatisfied about something... now i'm not entirely clear what the issue is, but i've offered an alternative.

@Draug, i think your position is slightly flawed, if there is a 21 player pool and you are playing four games against the other players in it, then you will still be ranked in that pool in the top 7 or top 14 or whatever...

i happen to think there will be more meta-gaming in my suggested 21 player pool, and i'm not sure if it will be a good thing... but i guess there is only one way to find out.