@fulhamish: I joined the game long before it was obvious that Turkey would nearly win

I am no one. I just find it funny that they stopped Turkey with a 6 way draw.

turkey has hit a new low. one of the worst shows i've seen since i started frequenting this site.

lol interesting first game on this site, a draw would be nice don't have all day

gameID=59221 Might as well post in here. And in the Live game thread.

don't hold it against us raphtown! turkey's attitude is the exception. there must be a way to end this...

@ Riphen, setting up a stalemate is part of the game man, especially pleasing when so many countries are involved. This is not funny any more though

I am looking into it. Please cease public discussion. Turkey, if you are reading this, please answer my PM ASAP.

haha, I noticed! I'm impressed at this 6-way gunboat draw though... Shame Italy isn't around anymore.

i didnt know this forum
everybody, im a evil turkeyLOL

BTW, why you guys refuse to cancel
i think it should be canceled

whoops didn't see that mod post until after hit reply sorry

Man its 1924, we will be overtaking real time soon! Come on mods!

lets make it sure
what's the difference between cancel and draw?

If we draw we get Italy's points between us, if we cancel we don't. I think that sums up the general attitude

******No more posting please********
The mods are looking into this and have messaged Turkey. Yoko, if you are Turkey, look at your home screen The Mods want the thread to die and move down in the forum. Please do not post.
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haha finally X_X

This game has been drawn.

@everyone

If you need assistance from the mods, email them. If it is a time sensitive issue, please post in the forum asking us to check our email. This type of thread isn't really acceptable.

@yoko

When a mod contacts you, you are expected to reply.

I'm happy to sit for anyone who needs it. PM me.

Although it doesn't sound like you'll need it, with Abge on the case.

Whoops. That's what I get for not refreshing before I post. :-(

Abge +1.

*sigh* I was the only one who didn't get a fair point share...hahaha, I joined i think in 1903. There was nothing I could do, but I made the mistake of back tracking :/ OH WELL it was pretty good when Austria finally got the message I wanted an alliance :D

I'm confused. I don't check PMs if I'm in a live game due to time constraints. I think it very unfair of the mods to expect that quick of a reply before force drawing a game.

Oh please, Draugnar, you're just being a contrarian. The game should have been drawn, response or not.

I don't know cause I wasn't in it and haven't looked. I'm just making a point to the mods and forum posters that sometimes when someone is in a live game, they don't have time to check PMs or the forum. So expecting someone to respond to an admin PM in a very short period is expecting too much. We have an obligation to respond but the rules don't give a time frame for that response. If we are to be expected to respond within 5 or 10 minutes, then a notification system needs to be built in to the site. Otherwise the mods should have paused the game so they could have time to get the response. It just seems a bit excessive is all.

turkey - you could have prevented a 6way draw.

what you needed to do was to drop back to the lower stale-mate line. same exact number of centers, but instead of your current positions, you'd hold the following:

sev sup mos
ukr+gal sup war
vie sup boh
tyl watches some youtube videos.

same thing in the south - pull back to hold tunis, but not threaten #18. so for example
ion sup tun
nap sup tys
tus sup pie

had you done that, this could have been a 3way TGE draw instead of a 6way.

also - in the middle of them being greedy and stabbing, you actually might have been able to launch a surprise attack while F and R were pissed off (AH would be long dead) which might have gotten you an 18th dot.

but what an amazing job by the 6 to hold on for so long for this draw.

me personally though, if what I did above did not work, I'd move further back to a 13 center defensible position instead... I would definitely rather have a cancel than a draw in a situation like this.

@Draug

If the player in question didn't spend the last 6+ turns holding every unit *and* he didn't post in this thread twice after I asked him to reply to my PM, I'd be more sympathetic to the whole "too busy to respond" excuse.

"Otherwise the mods should have paused the game so they could have time to get the response."

This is simply a silly suggestion. Once a live game is paused, I could never unpause it because I can't force people to come back and play a live game. If I had paused the game, it would have been a de facto draw.

@Babak

I can think of no situation in which I would force a cancel against someone's will. Holding at a stalemate line waiting for a player to NMR is *not* a valid tactic and was clearly what this player was doing. That doesn't warrant a cancel; it warrants a draw.

Fair enough. Had he been moving and not reponding here, you would have handled it different? That's all I wanted to know.

Yes, if the situation was different, I would have acted differently.

Can the mods turn off gunboat on the fly? That could have helped. Then you could pause it for 15 minutes, tell the player in question to meet you in pm and resolved it. Just an idea.