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mrfixij (159 D)
21 Sep 08 UTC
Chat records
I'm currently involved in a game with a handful of new players, VERY fast paced. As a result, I'm getting messages flying at me, especially over the global chat, between strategizing and asking how certain features work. As a result, some of my transcripts are getting lost in the chatlog. Is there any way to expand the viewable window of press?
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New WTA game 50pt bet - Points per Supply Centre is for Wimps!
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5775
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Invictus (240 D)
21 Sep 08 UTC
Is There Any Way To Have The Spellchecker Accept "Rumania" As Correct?
I mean, it's so irritating. I can't be alone on this.
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Hat-trick (0 DX)
18 Sep 08 UTC
Why don't Sardinia and Crete change colour?
Just wondered !
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pumpanickel (0 DX)
20 Sep 08 UTC
WW23
Hello guys

I have created a new game. Come join and have fun. It's called WW23. It takes 12h per round, so pleaseonly join when you are serious!!

Thanks

pumpanickel
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Churchill (2280 D)
20 Sep 08 UTC
Adjudicator in League game
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5665
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TheMasterGamer (3491 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
Old threads
Where do the old threads go to? I wanted to check something I recall having read.
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Zxylon (0 DX)
20 Sep 08 UTC
NPT (Nuclear Proliferation Treaty)
Just wanted to see what you guys think of this.
Iran wants peaceful nuclear energy which is allowed under the NPT
US and much of the west wont allow this and break the treaty by refusing to let Iran have it. So whose wrong the US for breaking the treaty or Iran for pursuing it (or are they lying)?
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DeliciousWolf (112 D)
14 Sep 08 UTC
Some Questions for Mr. Birsan
Which is your favorite country to play and why?

In your opinion, which country is best for first-time players? (thinking of my girlfriend here...)

What differences have you noticed in styles of play among countries/nationalities/age groups/gender, etc?

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GrizzlySurprise! (256 D)
16 Sep 08 UTC
Teh Leagues?
What exactly are these leagues?
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Blackheath Wanderer (0 DX)
20 Sep 08 UTC
Moscow Mule 4
215 points to join... PPSC. 24 hours play.
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EdiBirsan (1469 D(B))
19 Sep 08 UTC
Do draws include all survivors?
On this site, do all draws include all survivors?
For example England has 16 and Turkey has 16 and Germany has two. Can the Germans elect to agree to a two way draw between England and Turkey.
Or is it that the draw must include all survivors and then England and Turkey would have to wipe out the Germans in order to get to a two way draw?

As background, numerous Face to Face tournaments have different rules on how votes are take (some are open like here or secret)
some votes require that 30 or 29 centers be in the majority others require a unanimous vote to pass anything,
some say you can vote yourself out of a draw
some say that there is a minimum number of centers or time past before a game can be voted to an end.
some have no concept of a draw at all but only have the vote to end the game.

What are the exact details here?
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Blackheath Wanderer (0 DX)
16 Sep 08 UTC
Who thinks a nuclear Iran is a good thing?
Or a nuclear anywhere?
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Granted, the US is the only country in history that has dropped the bomb, but that was against a country FULL of religious fanatics who would have fought to the last man. The Japanese culture at that time was in the belief that their emperor was LITERALLY a descendant of the god of the Sun, and therefore a divine entity. Furthermore, the Japanese culture did not permit surrender of any sort, as it was seen as the ultimate disgrace. Everyone strictly adhered to the samurai code, and the code was such that suicide was less of a disgrace than surrender. The Japanese army would have fought to the last man, with catastrophic amounts of casualties to both sides. So in theory the dropping of the bomb during the second world war was something that saved far more deaths than it caused.

Don't get me wrong, I am anything but advocating the use of nuclear weapons against another country by anybody, and personally I believe they should be wiped off the face of the planet. However, the rationale behind the dropping of the bomb was far different because of the circumstances posed by the Japanese culture and their radical devotion to their "divine emperor" and the samurai code at the time. The dropping of the bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki was what horrified emperor Hirohito into proclaiming to the people that he was not a god, and thus the people were not obligated to protect him by the samurai code any longer. Instead of the war lasting until the States had completely over-run Japan, it ended much earlier. The end of WW2 was horrific no doubt, but dropping the bombs forced an early end to the war, which saved much more bloodshed than would have happened had the Japanese fought to the last man.

Nuclear arms are not a practical weapon, but rather a deterrent. The world has seen the devastation that they can cause, and nobody, not even the United states, would even think to use them again, unless they were attacked by nuclear weapons themselves first. Not to mention the leaders of such a democratic country as the United States would be committing political suicide to use them against another country, as there would be dramatic public outcry to such an act.

So basically all of this "Iran and all other countries should have nuclear weapons so that they are not nuked" is all cock-and-bull, and really, the issue is that there would indeed be a huge amount of discord in the middle east if a country like Iran was to manufacture nuclear weapons. I am not suggesting that Iran would use nuclear weapons if they had them, but I am saying that the sort of arms race that would result from their manufacture would escalate tension in an already tense area of the world, and in tense situations, tempers flare, and if you are afraid of your close neighbour attacking you when you are feeling threatened by many other nations in the same vicinity, then the temptation to use the bomb is just too much of a risk to have in those sorts of areas.

The will to use them in that area would have nothing to do with morals or fanaticism, but rather a feeling of being threatened, and of course nobody in this thread wants such a thing to be possible.
trim101 (363 D)
17 Sep 08 UTC
hasnt the arms race already been started by isreal having nuclear weapons and the threat from america!
Darwyn (1601 D)
17 Sep 08 UTC
@Edi
"Obviously the Iranians think it is a good idea and they are not taking a poll on the matter in the international community."

Funny, Edi...I do not recall Israel taking a poll to find out if it was okay for them to attain nuclear energy/weapons...do you? I've asked this before...where is the equality? Where is your concern for Israel having nukes? Where is your concern for Israel achieving this in clandestine fashion?

But of course, Israel is a different matter...isn't it? ;)

@kestas
"El-Baradei confirmed in Paragraph 52 of his November 2003 report that "to date, there is no evidence that the previously undeclared nuclear material and activities referred to above were related to a nuclear weapons programme." And again, after extensive inspections, El-Baradei wrote Paragraph 112 of his November 2004 report that "all the declared nuclear material in Iran has been accounted for, and therefore such material is
not diverted to prohibited activities.""

The bottom line is that the US accusations of Iran of having nukes is based, not on proof, not on concrete evidence...but on the flimsiest of allegations. The IAEA has confirmed that everything has been accounted for long ago.

Yet, here we are listening to US politicians incessantly banging the war drums ever since!
sceptic_ka (100 D)
17 Sep 08 UTC
I lived next to a girl from Iran for a while and please consider the regime that would have control of the nuke.
Ahmadinajad and his government:
- regard women as close to animals (kicking your dog is punishable under animal rights laws, up kicking your woman is fine)
- executes people for being gay
- ban opposition candidates from standing in "elections"
- censors films, newspapers, radio, the internet and anything you can think of.
- supports the indoctrination of children
- uses the West especially America as a scape goat when something goes wrong
I don't know if the people in charge believe this but a large proportion of Iranians believe that they really will get a reward (72 virgins) if they die fighting the Infidel. This is as much a fact to them as say the fact that bacteria cause diseases is to us.

What they need is education, not bombs.
sceptic_ka (100 D)
17 Sep 08 UTC
@Darwyn: Israel is a different matter, because the people there do not believe that dieing can be a good thing.
If you truly seriously believe that you are doing the will of some god or you are certain you will survive death then you are crazy shouldn't be leading a troop of boy (girl) scouts let alone a country.
sean (3490 D(B))
17 Sep 08 UTC
Sceptic, i dont believe a majority of Iranians or even a significant minority buy that line. Sure there are some fundamentalist nut jobs and some of them are in powerful positions in clerical and republican guard positions but the vast majority of iranians dont believe that. there are also some nut job fundamentalists in the christian right win in america who want to start a war in the middle east to bring on the messiah and that whole load of claptrap.

personally i really dont want the Iranians to have the Bomb but bush and likud fantasies of a "clean" surgical strike with no collateral damage(read:every Iranian villager living within a set radius of every target site put together by political appointees in the intelligence community and Iranian exile groups with an axe to grind) with no repercussions is ridiculous.
Darwyn (1601 D)
17 Sep 08 UTC
@sceptic_ka
Israel is an apartheid nation...doing unto Palestinians what has been done to them. Israel engages in collective punishment every single day. May I remind you that collective punishment is a war crime and it is clear that Israel views deaths to them as perfectly okay.

Is THAT how Israel is different?

I agree with you that god's will is crazy and leaves one unfit for leadership. But hell, we have that here in the good ol' USA!

PALIN
“Our leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God,” Palin says. “There is a plan and that is God’s plan.”

BUSH
“I’m driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, ‘George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.’ And I did, and then God would tell me, ‘George go and end the tyranny in Iraq,’ and I did.”

Where's your outrage?!
Warrior (675 D)
17 Sep 08 UTC
General_Ireland: we are tired of the song “They are fanatics” when USA is killing a nation. Obviously, this propaganda works very well with USA citizens, but we don’t support that. And you are so hypocritical! We must be happy that you drop a bomb because maybe there will be more people death if don’t raze two cities with a nuke?
Sceptic_ka: I’ve been chatting here with a lot of US citizens and I can’t belief how distort is the vision the have about their own government. And you think you really understand what happens in Iran just talking with a neighbor? You can be sure that US impose the same conditions that you find unacceptable to the nations they invade. You don’t know that because you live in the states, not in a country that’s under his boot. And if a country has different morals that yours, is this a justification to invade them?
Facts are facts: Iran was attacked a few years ago with US weapons managed with Iraq army, and then they attacked Afghanistan and Iraq (twice). Which country is the menace?
sceptic_ka (100 D)
17 Sep 08 UTC
I'm not saying Israel hasn't and isn't doing some bad stuff just that for the most part, the people there are far less crazy than in Iran.
Darwyn, take your Bush quote together with the amount of people who died in his wars and it supports my point exactly. Imagine what a different president would have done who either didn't believe in an afterlife or was unsure about it. All else being the same would that guy have been better?

To quote Sam Harris: "It is therefore not an exaggeration to say that if the city of New York were replaced by a ball of fire, some significant percentage of the American population would see a silver lining in the subsequent mushroom cloud, as it would suggest to them that the best thing that is ever going to happen was about to happen: the return of Christ. It should be blindingly obvious that beliefs of this sort will do little to help us create a durable future for ourselves- socially, economically, environmentally, or geopolitically."

According to the Iranians that I've met here (Karlsruhe), in Iran it's worse.
sceptic_ka (100 D)
17 Sep 08 UTC
@Warrior: do you think treating women as sub humans can be morally acceptable? Basic human rights are not "my personal morals" they're universal. And governments that deny their citizens them should be punished. But don't ask me how.

btw: I live in Germany and opposed the war in Iraq.
Warrior (675 D)
17 Sep 08 UTC
Sceptic_ka: and who are you to define: “this country is crazy, this country is sane”?
If you live out of US, probably you will think that US is crazier than the others. But you need to assume that you are not attacking other countries because they are crazy and you are the psychiatrist, you are attacking other countries because they have oil and you rob oil. It’s easy to understand: there’s a powerful economical reason, the rest are excuses and trash. They are spending lots of money with propaganda and they have been successful with you, because you believe each stupid lie they told you. NATO is trying to justify Iran’s invasion whit all the lies they can hold and you are helping them whit your lack of critic view.
There is no a "universal moral". If something like that exists, US, Germany nor European community haven’t the right to adjudicate the role of judge. They have been killing innocent people all over the world during decades. Besides, there are countries were there are worst conditions to women, gays, poor people, indigenous, etc. Why you are not striking them, in defense of “the universal moral”? Maybe they have no oil, or they have it but they allow European and US corporations to keep it just to avoid a military invasion.
trim101 (363 D)
17 Sep 08 UTC
Basic human rights are not "my personal morals" they're universal. you mean like being treated as a pow and being released at the end of the war etc
Chrispminis (916 D)
17 Sep 08 UTC
History is important, but I feel like people are bringing up logically flawed arguments from history. Just because America dropped the bomb 60 years ago, does not mean that it is more prone to drop the bomb again. Just because America attacked Afghanistan and Iraq does not justify a slippery slope toward war with Iran. I am willing to wager that there will be no war between America and Iran within the next five years. Iran is an entirely different situation than Iraq.

Ahmadinejad may seem to be irrational and theocratic, but he will not drop the bomb when he gets it. There are few persons in power who are truly irrational, more typically it is a rational irrationality, because rational people fear irrational people. It seems like he will drop the bomb because he's unpredictable and unreliable, but he's not stupid.

The real power of the nuke comes with the new political leverage he gains in the middle east and the international community. The real fear of Iran gaining nukes is not the risk of their use, but rather the power that a socially backwards country will gain over it's neighbours and the world because they fear the risk of their use.
Warrior (675 D)
17 Sep 08 UTC
There is no "universal moral". Something that is good for one maybe is not good for the others. For example, Rome’s Church has been supporting slavery in occident during centuries. So, is Christian moral good? Maybe if you were Earl in Europe, but if you were in the new America suffering “yanaconazgo”, how could the “universal moral” help you? If a Christian power invades your country in Africa and take you as a slave, selling you in Jamaica, which moral are you enjoying?
Besides, powers have no authority to declare immoral nothing, because they kill lots of people in the name of “justice”. It’s the worst hypocrisy, or must this justice be the famous “Law of the markets”?

Chrispminis (916 D)
17 Sep 08 UTC
While there's no universal moral, I would say there's at least a limited morality that arises in most people. I attribute this to the pragmatic bonus to evolutionary success that co-operation with your fellow humans brings. As social creatures in a fairly specialized economy, we're very much dependant on each other. A natural morality arises so as to keep the co-operation possible.

Obviously, it's very difficult to co-operate with your fellow humans if we all run around killing and stealing. Luckily a society full of exploiters such as murderers and thieves is not an evolutionarily stable strategy. The basic morals we see around us are definitely evolutionarily guided and are probably influenced by genetics in the vast majority of us. Obviously as long as there is some evolutionary gain to be made for exploiters, exploiters will exist.

Though this is a hefty tangent from a nuclear Iran.
sceptic_ka (100 D)
17 Sep 08 UTC
I'll be be bit more precise in what I'm saying:
- so what if America does bad stuff, that doesn't excuse the bad stuff of other countries.

Of course some morals a different between countries, how people eat, are the monogamous or polyamorous etc. But there is a minimum of human dignity that can't taken away.
check: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human_Rights.
Which ones would you give up? If none, then why should anyone else have to live without any of them.
Compare Iran to the USA, who do you think will have more violations.
Where would you rather be a minority?
Chrispminis (916 D)
17 Sep 08 UTC
Eh, the UN declaration of human rights seems to go above and beyond basic human rights. Particularly articiles 23, 24, and 26 may be unattainable for undeveloped countries.
Warrior (675 D)
17 Sep 08 UTC
sceptic_ka: I understand the point. Maybe US respects the Universal Declaration of Human Rights in Manhattan or Texas, but it’s not the same outside the US. If you only watch CNN and other broadcasting networks, you will never reach real information about invasion, tortures, new weapons testing, injustice, corruption, and all the possible forms of human rights violation perpetrate by US army and his friends in the rest of the world.
Remember your sentence: so what if America does bad stuff, that doesn't excuse the bad stuff of other countries. That’s exactly what US is doing since their independence: doing the worst stuff trying to convince everybody that they are good people. Right now is preparing an invasion of “good intentioned soldiers” to prevent us from “theocratic assassins”. Why don’t you say that you just need more oil? You will torture, pillage and kill the same, but at last you will not lie.
Warrior (675 D)
17 Sep 08 UTC
Please go to Somalia, you will see that the Universal Declaration of Human Rights are just cute words.
youradhere (1345 D)
18 Sep 08 UTC
Warrior:
I know that the US is the only country ever to have dropped the bomb. Great. Well, Iran is the only country close to nuclear capability that would drop it today.

Also: I love how you assume I'm American in arguing against Iran.

There is no need in this world for a completely irresponsible and insane nation like Iran to get the bomb. If Iran gets the bomb, everyone loses.
Xapi (194 D)
18 Sep 08 UTC
*I know that the US is the only country ever to have dropped the bomb.*
Fact

* Great. Well, Iran is the only country close to nuclear capability that would drop it today.*
Concept pulled out of your ass.

I'f anyone else wouldn't drop it, then why not just disarm?
Chrispminis (916 D)
18 Sep 08 UTC
What would Iran have to gain from dropping the bomb?
It wouldn't stop Zionism, it would likely bolster it.
It wouldn't bring converts to Islam.
It wouldn't make Iran richer.

What would it lose?
Everything. Absolutely everything. It would be wiped off the Earth.
sean (3490 D(B))
18 Sep 08 UTC
good one xapi.

yes iran only needs to bomb to deter the US and isreal. It will not use it first. to do so would mean isreal and the US wiping iran off the map.
and a fair bit of macho national pride, i want bigboy toys like the isrealis crap too i should think.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
18 Sep 08 UTC
Now, you might call me a TAD biased just because I'm an American Jew that's a huge Zionist from a family of huge Zionists, including a grandfather that was in the 9th artillery division that shelled Munich in WWII and a great-grandmother that ran a secret neighborhood program that shipped weapons to Israel during the '48 War, but:

If Iran thinks it will ever become nuclear, it better realize it will need to take Israel out BEFOREHAND, because the full power of the IDF, especially the famed Israeli Air Force, will crush Iran first otherwise. Iran can try all they want to defeat Israel, but Israel's got that special spirit that made the Original Kingdom and the Greeks states against the Persians and the Roman Republic against the Carthaginian Empire and the American Patriots against the British Empire ALL able to overcome the odds and triumph. 1948, outnumbered and fighting for the right to reamin born against the better equipped Palestinians and allies- Israel won. 1967, when nearly the entirety of the Arab States was against them- Israel won. 1973, when the Arabs attacked again while the Israelis were praying on Yom Kippur, our day of attonement and one of our holiest days- Israel finished their prayers, got up, and won.

I want Palestinians to have a place of their own, but NOT Israel, NOT the land the Jewish community waited 2,000 years for, NOT when there are so many other Arab states in the area.

Iran can dream of becoming a world power on par with Israel and then upward to the US, Russia, and China. Maybe they'll get there, maybe not; I think Israel, however, is moving up and getting stronger, more able than ever.

But one guarantee: Nuclear Iran, or the continued anti-Israel sentiments it has, means an Israeli-Iranian war, then the Arab States get involved. Russia and the US will want to protect theri investments and leaders, so they'll come in. N. Korea, Iran's ally, will take that opportunity to flex theri muscles and, backed by China, will start trying to build an empire like Japan tried to do in WWII. That inflames Europe and the world even more, and China just finances it all and enjoys it, until an incident occurs. They'll enter, in one capacity or another, and then, as if there's any more doubt, THAT'S WWIII.

WWIII will start like WWI- a regional conflict that blows up thanks to tangled alliances and old scores. But THIS time, with our world superpowers and superweapons, it might be the war to end them all this time- not because of an apocolypse, but because, when it's over, the world will be so badly burned and changed, it'll either revert to a sectional, Medevial Ages-type regression in turms of our global economy, OR we'll finally get it, and maybe, after we destroy so much of the divided earth, we can unify it.

In any case: Shalom tsu du, Yisroyl khayoles!
Chrispminis (916 D)
18 Sep 08 UTC
Just a *tad* biased. =)
Maica (145 D)
18 Sep 08 UTC
I think my second amendment right to bear arms ought to include nuclear weapons. I will need them for protection/political stature should I find myself being attacked during this or any other conflict.

To answer the question:

I don't believe Iran should have nuclear weapons. I dont think any nation "should" have them. America was the first and only nation to use atomic force, and we will remember that. A naval invasion onto japanese shores would have lead to more deaths on both sides. Truman didnt make the decision lightly.

I dont think Iran would have such a heavy heart should it attack another nation, so long as it could be religiously justified (And every religion can justify anything). The threat towards America is minimal though, as we saw with North Korea. If they can get their planes over Washington D.C. then they have already accomplished something amazing.
Chrispminis (916 D)
18 Sep 08 UTC
Religion is a means to justify the action, but it is not the motivator. Top Iranian officials will not make their decision based on religion but on securing Iran's interests. Once they've decided upon their course of action, the religious reasoning will fall upon the populace and spread with propaganda.
Warrior (675 D)
18 Sep 08 UTC
Obiwanobiwan: you really think that Iran will attack Israel because they are anti- Israel? It will be stupid. Doing that, they will give an excellent reason to US and Israel to raze them. So, maybe they can hate Israel, but they are not stupid.
Finally, you can’t be so innocent: wars will not end with a war. First you need no weapons factories and no people like you, who are willing to make a new war.
I'd like to point out that Ahmadinejad also denies the existence of the holocaust.
Warrior (675 D)
18 Sep 08 UTC
Perro, he can believe what he wants, even if the “official version of history” opposed that. I don’t believe the “official version” of each war, but you are not going to kill me because I have a different point of view.
The problem here is that those arguments will be used to invade Iran. So, if you are not attacking any country, why you must be invaded? Is the point of view of a president about something that happened in 1940 a reason to kill innocent people?

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izawa (100 D)
20 Sep 08 UTC
Hey guys, just wanted to try this out.
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5763

Newbie here.
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Vakarro (100 D)
20 Sep 08 UTC
new game
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5758

I've played Diplomacy a few times before, but this is my first time on the site.
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Chrispminis (916 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
Hit the Jackpot
It's a neat game I've been playing for the last half hour, and I've been most pleased with my results. =D

I've won a world cup, and have scored 2078. I've yet to break through to the master's board and represent Canada however...

See if you can beat my score!
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JesterJoker (174 D)
18 Sep 08 UTC
Draw in Game -6
Germany, Turkey and Russia want a draw in game -6.

I'm Germany and I say sure.
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Blackheath Wanderer (0 DX)
17 Sep 08 UTC
Meta-gaming: Good, bad or inevitable?
This is what Maniac has to say on meta-gaming

"what i was trying to acheive is letting my opponents and allies know that building partnerships spans games and if you stab me in one, watch out for me in another. Once that's clear, i think i would be stabbed less - it's the meta-game - not cheating!"
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amathur2k (100 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
Please draw this game -6
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5407&msgCountry=Global
I am russia, and turkey and germany will be posting their agreement shortly.
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Invictus (240 D)
19 Sep 08 UTC
Play this! http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5743 "Dolchstoß"
It's called Dolchstoß, which means "dagger stab" in German. It was used to describe the idea that communists and other domestic subversives were the real reason Germany lost the First World War. Lots a fun, people.
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DingleberryJones (4469 D(B))
18 Sep 08 UTC
Diplomacy for sale at Barnes & Noble
I was surprised to see this, but in the small games section at my local B&N in NJ (a mega bookstore for those outside the US), right next to chess and Scattegories was Diplomacy. I never would have thought to find it there.
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Centurian (3257 D)
18 Sep 08 UTC
Convoying: What Would Happen?
I'm curious what would happen if two powers tried to convoy the same unit and both orders would work.
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EdiBirsan (1469 D(B))
18 Sep 08 UTC
Game starts at other than 1901...how? Why?
I was looking at some games in progress or ended (forgot which) and I noticed that some games were started at dates other than 1901. What is that all about?
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lacuto (1100 D)
17 Sep 08 UTC
Draw request for "Fun time at the beach"
The surviving powers in Fun time at the beach - Fra, Eng, Rus, Ita, Tur -would like to request a draw for the following game. Confirmations below.

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5375
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Kapstadt (107 D)
18 Sep 08 UTC
Uncreation
Is there a way to un-create one's accout?
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Anna.Turnipseed (100 D)
18 Sep 08 UTC
Scurry
I've started a fast paced game more intended for new players. so if you're really experienced, please give us a chance to learn!

New players, feel free to join!
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MickFlanagen (100 D)
18 Sep 08 UTC
New Game
Hi, I have a new game at:
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5732
25 points to enter. 24 hour phases
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nitish (2087 D(S))
18 Sep 08 UTC
New Game - The Storm
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5728

PPSC, 95 point buy-in. I'm the second player to join; we still need 5 more.
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EdiBirsan (1469 D(B))
16 Sep 08 UTC
End Of Game (EOG) statements
Do you all do End of Game Statements?
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Yaniv (1323 D(S))
17 Sep 08 UTC
Question re the cost of taking over a country in civil disorder
Each player puts an equal number of points into the pot to join a game. Thus each supply centre has a point value.

When, during the game, a player abandons play and a country goes into civil disorder, the abandoned country is offered to another player at a 'cost'.

How is this cost to take over a country in civil disorder determined?
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If the cost to take over a country in civil disorder is the average value per supply centre times the number of supply centres 'controled' by the country in civil disorder, since the SC counts are only adjusted after the fall retreat, the number of supply centres reflected as belonging to the country in civil disorder is often extremely inaccurate.

If the acquisition cost for a country in civil disorder is based upon the value of supply centres in its possession, does that take into account the actual SC count, as opposed to what the SC count might have been prior to the most recent spring season?
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