Italy, can you move to Bohemia to help defend against the influx of Turko-British forces advancing?

Tyrolia is not needed, so I suggest using it.

This is starting to look like WWII. We are being driven back on the Eastern front and the British have resisted our invasion attempt are now plotting counter attack. Also our Facist allies are non-commital and less effective than pure German troops.

I would encourage the Fascists to quit being ineffective and switch to a side that would make them more "effective'.

Italy....you don't have to go down with these rats.

To compare this game further with European goepolitics. The Italians are non-commital so everyone tries to sway them. Don't pull a WWI, this is the second.

I have also noticed that Italy can just retreat to Bohemia. I would also like to inform the British that we are committed in defending the Western front and will gladly allow the Turks to migrate to germany, just like modern times!

Disband~! Interesting!

Disband!?

Why?

Well there is no reason, even if he was switching sides, that he would do such a thing.

Perhaps he wants a 4th fleet in the Med...

Or perhaps I'm a moron, was on my PDA on a train with drafty windows, couldn't access the forum, and thought it was August, giving me no retreat path that wouldn't either screw an ally or violate an agreement.

Mostly the first part of that sentence, of course

and I wanted a 4th fleet in the med

Well its actually not a problem, I will prompty support you to Bohemia from Tyrolia.

To the British Monarchy,
I send my appreciation that you still have faith in the Ottoman Empire to conduct itself in time of war. Few wars are fought mistake free. As such, I would like to present you Warsaw this fall by supporting your army into that region. The Sultan.

Sultan, that would be lovely. Many thinks.

Bohemia only makes sense if we're certain that Austria will not miss his moves, and is making the logical ones. We can but try.

Turkey, regarding your earlier "not have to go down with those rats" comment.... yes, I kinda do, their rodentness aspects or lack thereof notwithstanding.

I'm trying to stick as close as possible to my agreements, both because that is my nature, and that's how I'm trying to play this particular game[1]. I currently have a NAP with Germany - which, as I'm sure my northern colleague will forgive me for stating bluntly, wouldn't have come around except for your 'mistake'.

I have an agreement with Germany. I have an agreement with England. What do you want me to do, just huddle in my corner until the end game?


[1] Meta: If other people aren't bored of watching the thread, they'll see how I keep my deals. That way they won't see the knife coming when I play them in a less public setting. Or something ;)

I shall be ensuring that Vienna does not fall as well as the inevitable Budapest.

I want the other people to see it coming. That way they can watch hopelessly as the knife goes in.

Although in all honesty, I'm pretty sure I've done everything right.

I assume that's a general statement, Germany, and not directed at someone in particular. Particularly if that person is me ;)

OK...Italy...You leave me no choice. I declare war on you.

Um, you hadn't already?

No...never....well, except now.

I meant generally yes.

I regret that, Sultan, I sincerely do - but I see no future that does not involve conflict between us. Honestly, do you?

{Goth}
There is nothing before me but death - death at the hands of an enemy, death at the hands of a 'friend' - when survival (or, realistically, stabbing successfully) are not an option, what is one to do?
{/Goth}

I can lash out at those who depend upon my fidelity, or I can sell myself dearly against those who would ravage my land.

Our choices are constrained by the positions we find ourselves in, and that which has passed between us. Perhaps in another game it will not be that way, but today, it is what it is.

{I'm also wondering if you're going to screw the English and sell me out to the Germans}

{Miracle Max} Ouu-Huu...Look you knows so much...there a difference between "dead" and "mostly dead".

*look WHO knows so much...

I will not screw the English...we are on opposite sides of the map and I look forward to meeting my English counterpart in either Munich or Paris. My only stab was against Russia and was for survival only. At the end of this fall, we should have superiority of numbers and I suspect the rats of Germany and Italy will start poking their heads out of the sewer.

I see - so you expect me to get stabbity when the going gets tough, but not when I could turn the time and earn some gratitude? That.. seems counter intuivite.