I can't say I particularly want Ezio to off Chaqa tonight and let Vash pigheadedly fuck it all up.

@Ezio

Who's mafia? :)

I suppose. ##vote HR.

Damn, do you have a case for that vote?

Any thoughts on voting Balduran and him flipping town?

Yes, it means Chaqa is a fool and HR is scum

I said my piece the previous day. I wanted to lynch you before we lynched him, but the other townies preferred the lynch.
Why am I voting you? I think you're scum.

So Vash, you say I went for Balduran because you personally scumread Ezio more (which is hilariously self-centred in the first place), but you have no thoughts whatsoever about the opportunistic way Ezio jumped on despite having previously voted me yesterday?

Hang on now Ezio, you changed from me to Balduran. In fact, you were the one who put Balduran AHEAD at the time.

No HR, you went for Balduran because specfically because Ezio was more scumread by both me and Chaqa, the people controlling the lynch. i.e by getting Balduran killed you set up a much better end game for yourself, if Ezio is lynched first you have a worse one.

HR are you seriously trying to blame me for the Bald lynch?

@Vash

That's nonsensical, though. I'd still have to persuade you and Chaqa to vote Balduran at some point, why would it matter which day I did it on?

@Ezio
Blame you? No. Question you? Yes. Your change was incredibly convenient when the vote count at the time you changed was this:

Hellenic Riot (3): VashtaNeurotic, Balduran, Ezio
Balduran (2): Ikaneko, Chaqa
Ezio (1): Hellenic Riot

So if you scumread me, why did you change?

Game theory, HR. Because let's say you fail at getting Balduran lynched, right, and Ezio dies. Well now you have a days worth of cases and doubt surrounding balduran to make it easier for you

Let's go through Ezio's voting the last few days.

Day 8:
Silent votes me as the fifth vote on me wht the following brilliant hedge:

"HR is a scum I would trust to bus so hard. Balduran has been quite scummy, but it's his first game. I don't particularly care about the order in which we lynch those two, as we win if we hit the scum and I'm confident the last scum is one of those two., but I think HR is slightly more likely to be scum."

Before changing to Balduran as another silent vote and putting the majority onto him as illustrated above.

Day 7:
Final vote and end on MoscowFleet

Day 6:
"##vote MF. I don't like voting with Jamiet and TOM, but I think MF is the better lynch."

His only post in the entire 48 hours.

Day 5:
"I think that ties the vote. I really think we should get MF over ND. I am scumreading ND, so I don't hate it, but I think MF is more likely to be scum than ND.
12 people left alive
9 town
3 scum
8-3(mislynch)
7-3(nk)
6-3(mislynch)
5-3(NK) MYLO. I think we should take the more likely shot. I would prefer a ND lynch to no lynch, so if we're close to tied as we approach EoD, I'll switch to him.

Ezio
Day-5 00:30
page 89 I would rather someone else switch to MF."

Stays on MF to the end. So the one day you can attack me for, applies to him just as equally.

Alternatively, Vash, I serious piss you off and then don't even kill you, and thus make it less likely I'd get the second lynch through.

Yes, genius mafia play right there. Rather than let you guys lynch Ezio and then go into self-doubt after you get it wrong. My play makes no sense whatsoever if I were scum, Vash.

##vote Ezio

Oh fuck off with calling people out for hedging, that's just called being unsure an does not demonstrate the extra knowledge mafia have.

Vash logic:

"Wow HR wants to lynch Balduran when Chaqa and I suspect Ezio, even though he's suspected Balduran previously days ago. Clearly makes him mafia"

"Wow Ezio just changed from HR to Balduran for no reason whatever despite scumreading HR. Definitely not him opportunistically getting a second lynch through. Nothing to see here at all, obvious town"

Yea ok. ##end. The reason I was tempted to vote nolynch was because I wasn't certain it was HR, and I wanted to see if he started flailing. This seems like flailing to me.

More Vash logic:

"Wow peterlund got killed when he suspected HR, so HR is clearly double bluffing"

"Wow I didn't die despite screaming it's HR and making it clear I won't change, and despite HR supposedly having already shot a non-clear. Oh well, that's fine. No need to rethink."

How convenient, Ezio. This is the other benefit of having 4 people: it takes 3 people to end it.

Yes, Chaqa decides if we end it now.

So you have no thoughts whatsoever on Ezio's opportunistic jump yesterday, Vash?


This is pathetic.

I know. I wanted to make it clear where I stood.

Of course you did.

Do explain how my "flailing" today is any different to my posting yesterday.

Oh it's exactly the same, the posting of someone desperately trying to save themself....

More desparate.

Of course I'm trying to save myself - you're about to hand scum a win through your blatant stupidity. The actual fuck do you expect me to be doing? Sitting here and letting you cost us a win?

I was more desperate yesterday frankly, Ezio. I thought I would be lynched and then you would be lynched and Balduran wouldn't even get a look at as he romped home to a win.

Today I have some faith that Chaqa isn't going to be as much of a fuckwit as Vash, and it's a direct 50/50.