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The Hanged Man (4160

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03 Nov 12 UTC

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Ed Birsan for City Council

http://www.edbirsan.com/

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jmo1121109 (3812

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18 Oct 12 UTC

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Gunboat SoW Sign Up

If you need some help improving your gunboat play or you want to help players get better at gunboats sign up here.

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03 Nov 12 UTC

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Indiana Senate Race

http://www.wthr.com/story/19983787/new-poll-shows-change-in-indiana-senate-race

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03 Nov 12 UTC

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EoG: Live Gunboat-283

A 5-hour game. Ugh. I hope it was a useful learning experience for Shield, otherwise I wasted two hours of sleep.

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2ndWhiteLine (2611

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02 Nov 12 UTC

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WebDip Exit Poll

President Eden for President

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28 Oct 12 UTC

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Who wants a piece of this???

As some of you may have noticed, I've been discretely playing a random game here and there in the last bit. Having seen my last one end because a dumb ass resigned, I thought it was time for fiercer competition. Any takers?

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Dharmaton (2398

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03 Nov 12 UTC

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EoG

gameID=103386 is ongoing -
typical, was writing in an other EoG & Forgot to Build in year one - I know, wowey.

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03 Nov 12 UTC

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Why I Love Sports

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/another-look-most-celebrated-technical-foul-college-basketball-022107267--ncaab.html

This is why I love sports. Nuff said.

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MichiganMan (5121

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03 Nov 12 UTC

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EoG candy ass mo fo

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=103368

What a surprise...

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Gunfighter06 (224

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02 Nov 12 UTC

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Top Sports Comebacks of All Time

List your favorites.

No recent event inspired this thread; I've been meaning to post it for a while.

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jmo1121109 (3812

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15 Oct 12 UTC

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SoW interest

Who would be interested in either a gunboat School of War or a regular School of War? These are teaching games for players who want to get better at either type of game. Post if you're interested in being a teacher or a student inside.

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Dharmaton (2398

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02 Nov 12 UTC

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EoG gameID=103361 Ancient Med whatever

Splitdiplomat played like a fool.

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02 Nov 12 UTC

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why can't Italy retreat to Romania?

gameID=103360 Autumn 1902, Retreats.... I attacked Greece from Serbia, was bounced, then kicked out of Serbia by another attack. Shouldn't I be able to retreat to Romania?

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SpeakerToAliens (147

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02 Nov 12 UTC

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Clicking "+1" just takes you to the top of the page.

I tried to click the +1 icon on a posting I liked, but it just jumps you to the top of the page. Presumably this is something to do with the earlier WebDip outage.

[Firefox 15.0.1, Windows 7 (64 bit).]

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02 Nov 12 UTC

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EoG: Old salts

Damn... I should have taken down my draw vote.

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theresnogodbutme (100

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18 Oct 12 UTC

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so why are women evil?

ok so some girl i know banged her bf's friend. i have long since given up on my dream that women are naturally monogamous. in my years of experience i have discovered that they are naturally skanks. but there are some things i noticed that seemed to go beyond the call of duty...

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Thucydides (864

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01 Nov 12 UTC

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The Economist has endorsed Barack Obama

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21565623-america-could-do-better-barack-obama-sadly-mitt-romney-does-not-fit-bill-which-one/comments#comments

PLEASE COMMENT ONLY ON THE POINTS IN THE ARTICLE, NOT YOUR OWN POINTS

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Bonaparte23 (695

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02 Nov 12 UTC

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Live game start or cancel.

So the site was out of order for a while. A live gunboat is still to begin (although it's set a 'now'), it doesn't start, nor can anyone leave. Is there anything we can do about this situation?

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Jamiet99uk (873

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02 Nov 12 UTC

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Racism

Is there anyone from Lithuania on this site?

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cspieker (18223

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02 Nov 12 UTC

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EOG: Top 7 active (not NMR-ing when losing) gunboater's

gameID=102550

Interesting in that the NMR'r in the orginal game (who motivated the parenthetical comment in the new title) was Sargemacher.

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jmo1121109 (3812

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29 Oct 12 UTC

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Sargmacher has been banned

We don't normally discuss the details behind bans, but given the high visibility of this account and the inevitable questions that may arise, we have decided to make a statement to clarify matters.
More inside...

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jmo1121109 (3812 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

WebDiplomacy Community,

Sargmacher has been banned for a rather extensive history of multi-accounting that spanned the entire time that he has been on this site. This involved cheating in dozens of games, using many accounts to avoid suspicion, and resulting in an inflated record and ranking.
We are posting this to reassure the community that:
1) This matter has been thoroughly examined by the entire moderator team, and we followed due process in coming to this decision, including extensive correspondence with the player before passing judgment. The player was highly evasive and deceptive, but did eventually admit to most of the infractions. Given the extent to which the system was abused, we decided that a ban was the only appropriate course of action.
2) We will do our best to be more vigilant in the future to prevent such extreme cases from developing in the first place.

-The Moderators

abgemacht (1076 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

Hopefully this will serve as a reminder that even well-known players are not above the rules. If you have multiple accounts, I'd encourage you to email the mods to notify us before we find them ourselves.

abgemacht (1076 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

Also, since I was barely involved in this case, I'd just like to say that I was very impressed how the current mod/admin team handled everything.

SplitDiplomat (101466 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

Somehow I'm not surprised.

obiwanobiwan (248 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

First they came for Sandgoose, and I didn't say anything, because, well, what do you say to a Sandgoose, really?

Then they came for Sargmarcher, and I didn't say anything, because, well, I didn't know him too well.

Then they came for m--!

(But I kid...sounds like you guys did a good job...though it is troubling more and more recognizable names seem to be getting caught.)

Octavious (2701 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

Who'd have thought a Lib-Dem would turn out to be nothing but a liar and a cheat?

In all seriousness, though, this does come as something of a surprise. A dirty business, but weeding out the weak has to be done.

Rancher (1652 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

I am a Lib-Dem generally but not hardcore ... and to be honest, having played with him many times, I am not surprised at all

Putin33 (111 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

Thank you, moderators.

Frank (100 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

I think this is stupid. Sargmacher brought net benefit to the site and was a valuable member of the community. Assuming this is the first time he was caught, he shouldnt banned - it doesnt benefit the site and it doesnt fit with precedent. It seems like punishments are way too draconian lately. Whats the point of it?

On another note, jmo is a terrible mod who is way too overeager about banning players points, docking, locking threads, etc. For example, the no talking about ongoing gunboats used to just be a norm of etiquette that prevented substantial diplomatic talk in the forum. Now it appears to be a hard and fast rule where you arent even allowed to rally people to cancel in 1901 or whatever.

Stressedlines (1559 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

sarge huh You know, one day he whined about me talking about an on going game (that was 1 turn from finishing) and called me a cheater, and should be banned. Interesting how the ones who point their fingers the most are usually the ones who are guilty of the crimes.

Willtor (113 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

@Obi:

Since it's multi-accounting, you might even say:

First they came for Sandgoose, and I didn't say anything because I wasn't Sandgoose. Then they came for Sargmarcher, and I didn't say anything because I wasn't Sargmarcher.

;)

But, seriously, thanks admins for your vigilance. It builds confidence in the legitimacy of the games in which one participates.

abgemacht (1076 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

@Frank

This is not the first time he was caught. He had systematically cheated dozens of people for months and showed no remorse when confronted.

zultar (4180 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

Looking at Frank's comment, I'm going to clarify a few things. The entire mod team was heavily involved in this case. It wasn't just jmo. He is just the one to post the message. Moreover, Kestas was informed before hand and he agreed with our decision. Kestas might very well choose to post in this thread.
Regardless, we are not going to discuss what Sarg has done other than what Jmo has already revealed. We do not like banning people. We only do it as a last resort.

yebellz (729 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

@Frank, this was a matter examined by the entire moderator team and we made this decision together. This was an extensive case of cheating, spanning nearly two years and his entire time on this website, that ruined over 50 games, through systematic abuse to avoid detection and inflate records and ghost ranking.

Gen. Lee (7588 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

I don't understand the desire to win that way, but w/e screw him.

goldfinger0303 (3157 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

While I did enjoy playing with him (at times) and will say that I'll miss him, a cheater is a cheater and the punishment fits the crime.

But I must admit I am curious about who his multis were. I was in the Leagues with him shortly after he joined and some of the play now looks suspicious when viewed in this light.

Gen. Lee (7588 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

Frank reading comprehension ftw.

SantaClausowitz (360 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

I always thought his play was suspicious but I always stopped myself because he was such a highly respected player. I remember some games where I was playing a anon was ready to accuse someone of cheating and when I saw it was Sarg I said "well it couldn't be true"

Draugnar (0 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

+1 to each and every mod!

Octavious (2701 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

After a brief look at Sarg's games it appears most of his treachery to the community was committed in gunboats. Is it generally true that gunboats have a larger multi problem than the traditional game? I say this as I hardly ever play gunboat and have rarely been in a game spoilt by cheating.

uclabb (589 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

I agree with SantaClausowitz

jmo1121109 (3812 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

@Frank, all members are more then welcome to appeal any decision to the admin's if you feel a decision made by a moderator was inappropriate.

SantaClausowitz (360 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

I'd like to say, I don't know what changed, but I appreciate that mods are finally disposing of the good old boy approach to enforcing rules around here and are actually applying them equally. I had quite a few problems early on with Mods who blatantly favored established players. I'm glad to see this is changing.

flc64 (1963 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

I don’t care how many games he played or if he was a respected member of the community. Zero tolerance for cheaters.

Kudos to the mods.

dubmdell (556 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

Splintered Cell and smoke out? :(

Would it be possible for those of us who considered ourselves friends with him and wish to contact Sarg to receive his email address?

Octavious (2701 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

What changed is you became an established player, Santa :p

Draugnar (0 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

Make yours visible on your profile and Sarg can get it viewing profiles as 'guest'.

ulytau (541 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

Sarg killed the innocence of webDip. Good job, mods. See you in hell, Assmarcher.

ulytau (541 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

Such a bad example for the young ones. What if CM makes a multi because of your influence, Sarg? Have you thought about that? Have you thought about the threads he'll make about his multi touching him inappropriately?

flc64 (1963 )
29 Oct 12 UTC

I hope the Mods have a system that will keep him (and other cheaters) from returning with a different username.

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Had a chance to explain American politics today

It was an interesting opportunity. It started with my coworker asking about the electoral college and evolved into a general question of how American politics works. Her reaction was mixed. I know we log on here every day and gripe about how our politics suck, but after my holistic explanation, I feel almost grateful we have politics to gripe about. Our problems really aren't that bad. (Unless Romney/ Ryan wins, jk! not really.)

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SpeakerToAliens (147

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02 Nov 12 UTC

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A Flight Safety video with a difference!

http://www.youtube.com/user/airnewzealand - Select the "Flight Safety" Link.

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abgemacht (1076

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02 Nov 12 UTC

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General Accountability WWII to Present Day

I heard an excellent episode of Fresh Air today that I thought would be interesting to discuss. A brief outline is below, although I'd encourage you to find a podcast and listen to the interview.

Thoughts?

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MichiganMan (5121

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02 Nov 12 UTC

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EoG Live-WTA-GB-79

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=103301#gamePanel

Surprised that BOTH France and Germany just rolled over to England. Both guys just vacated their own home and never really defended it, thus allowing England to roll.

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30 Oct 12 UTC

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Game

In commemoration of a string of high-profile bans lately, I've created a game to celebrate. I am looking forward to decreasing the number of games "infected" by a multi from 45% to about 10%, which is what mine is. If you want the password, message me. Don't play if you're a multi because the mods will be keeping close tabs on all of us I'm sure.

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Jamiet99uk (873

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30 Oct 12 UTC

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Why do Americans say "math"?

And not "maths". It's short for "mathematics", not "mathematic".

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02 Nov 12 UTC

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I'm a multi

i HAVE RECENTLY FORMED MANY MULTIES AND NEED TO BE BANNED.

Ban me and honor me with a game. No...seriously.

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VirtualBob (192

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31 Oct 12 UTC

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Bad Losers

I (sort of) understand why people give up on a hopeless position, but the current system does not seem to punish them (or allow the rest of us to play on). See more detail.

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redhouse1938 (429

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28 Oct 12 UTC

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Drug abuse 2.0

A new, fresh discussion on the issue :-)

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