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Emac (0 DX)
16 May 12 UTC
Joe Dimaggio
This thread is to relive Joe's 56-game hitting streak.
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Emac (0 DX)
16 May 12 UTC
May 15, 1941
Joe was hitting .194 over the last 24 days. The Yankees have won as many as they have lost and are in 4th place in the American League.
Joe got a single in the first inning of a 13-1 Yankee loss, and the streak was on.
Emac (0 DX)
16 May 12 UTC
May 16, 1941
The Yankees are now one game under .500 after yesterday's 13-1 loss. New York built a 4-0 lead through five behind Joe's sixth homer of the season, but in the sixt Chicago scored five runs to take the lead. In the bottom of the ninth Joe hit a triple that sparked a two-run rally that gave New York the win and brought the Yankees back to .500. The streak was at two games.
Putin33 (111 D)
16 May 12 UTC
Ted Williams had a better season, but this 'hitting streak' led to D-Madge getting the MVP.

Most overrated player in history.
Stressedlines (1559 D)
16 May 12 UTC
REALLY pUTIN? I am sure we can find some people more overrated than him, right?
Putin33 (111 D)
16 May 12 UTC
Considering he was voted 'great living ballplayer' (and insisted on being called that) when Hank Aaron, Willie Mays, Ted Williams, and a bunch of others were still alive, I'd say no.

His 1947 MVP was probably the worst farce ever in baseball history. Again, Williams the victim.

1947 stats - Ted Williams
AVG: .343; OBP: .499; 125 Runs; 32 HRs; 114 RBIs

1947 stats - Joe Dimaggio
AVG: .315; OBP: .391; 97 Runs; 20 HRS; 97 RBIs

How on earth does D-Madge get the MVP over Williams?
Stressedlines (1559 D)
16 May 12 UTC
I am a Red Sox fan, so I will not disagree with you on the MVP that year, I just think there were others more qualified for the title of that.

WHo voted him that?
Putin33 (111 D)
16 May 12 UTC
Sportswriters.
Stressedlines (1559 D)
16 May 12 UTC
ok, enough said...lol
Yonni (136 D(S))
16 May 12 UTC
Regardless, that streak is still one of the more impressive records in sports.
Emac (0 DX)
17 May 12 UTC
Exactly Yonni. The fact that the game is over 100 years old and no one, not Williams, Mays, Cobb, Aaron, Ruth, Gehtrig, Rose, Musial, etc. ever got within 10 games of his record. He may not be the best hitter of all time, but he has the most unbreakable record in baseball.
Putin33 (111 D)
17 May 12 UTC
No, not really. Cy Young's win total will never be surpassed.
Putin33 (111 D)
17 May 12 UTC
Cy Young wins - 511; next highest = 417. Highest win total of pitcher who played remotely recently - Greg Maddux - 355.

Emac (0 DX)
17 May 12 UTC
Dimaggio is 21% better than the next best hitting streak. Young is 19% better than the next win total.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
17 May 12 UTC
Oh come off it, Putin--Mays and Williams were clearly better, no arguments there, but Joltin' Joe was still a great player, easily HOF...

And there are plenty who are overrated way ahead of him.
Emac (0 DX)
17 May 12 UTC
56 games
274 plate appearances
5 stirkeouts
Yonni (136 D(S))
17 May 12 UTC
I wouldnt call it the most unbreakable but it's at least in the argument for it. Hopefully, managers figure out how god damn stupid the save stat is and then nobody will ever surpass Rivera.
Putin33 (111 D)
17 May 12 UTC
A pitcher could get 20 wins for 25 straight seasons and still fall 11 wins short of Cy Young. Using percentages is stupid. For a comparison, Nolan Ryan, who is a HOF pitcher, only got 20 wins *twice* in his 27 year career.
Putin33 (111 D)
17 May 12 UTC
"Mays and Williams were clearly better, no arguments there"

The point is he was called the greatest ever when those two and many others were alive. And he won MVP awards he didn't deserve. What is the definition of overrated if D-Madge doesn't qualify for the most overrated ever?
Yonni (136 D(S))
17 May 12 UTC
I know it's not a whole person, but Jeter's defence has to be up there.
Stressedlines (1559 D)
17 May 12 UTC
Jeter? Good player. Really good. Should not be in this conversation at all. This coming from a Sox fan, Jeter is HoF, but not to be mentioned in the same breath as Williams and Mays.
Yonni (136 D(S))
17 May 12 UTC
I was saying up there in terms of most overrated. How many undeserved gold gloves does he have?
Stressedlines (1559 D)
17 May 12 UTC
ahhhhhhhhhhhhh yes, I will agree with THAT. His defense was solid, but I never thought he had the arm/range deserving of any actually.
Emac (0 DX)
17 May 12 UTC
May 17, 1941
The White Sox get the 3-2 win and send the Yankees under .500 again. Joe singled, walked, and scored a run and it seemed like a pedestrian game for the Clipper.
Emac (0 DX)
17 May 12 UTC
Other notable records.
Fernando Tatis, two-grand slams in one inning.
Johnny Vander Meer, back-to-back no hitters.
Jack Chesbro, 41 wins. Heck people don't eve start 41 games anymore.
Hugh Duffy's .440 batting average.

Putin33 (111 D)
17 May 12 UTC
Yes, notable and all more impressive/useful than Dimaggio's fluff record.

"but Jeter's defence has to be up there."

I agree with this. Coaches are bigger dunces than sportswriters when it comes to awards.
Putin33 (111 D)
17 May 12 UTC
But the difference is Jeter is widely criticized for his defense, so people *know* he's not that great. To be overrated to me means people think you are a legend, when you're quite ordinary.
Yonni (136 D(S))
17 May 12 UTC
"And he won MVP awards he didn't deserve"

It was mainly this that I was going on. More so the 5 gold gloves he got. Contrast that with Bill James's statement "was probably the most ineffective defensive player in the major leagues, at any position." There's a huge disconnect there.
aaaa (127 D)
18 May 12 UTC
"One cannot extract the essence of DiMaggio's special excellence from the heartless figures of his statistical accomplishments. He did not play long enough to amass leading numbers in any category - only thirteen full seasons from 1936 to 1951, with prime years lost to war, and a fierce pride that led him to retire the moment his skills began to erode.

"DiMaggio sacrificed other records to the customs of his time. He hit a career high .381 in 1939, but would probably have finished will over .400 if manager Joe McCarthy hadn't insisted he play every day in the season's meaningless last few weeks, long after the Yanks had clinched the pennant, while DiMaggio (batting .408 on September 8) then developed such serious sinus problems that he lost sight in one eye, could not visualize in three dimensions, and consequently slipped nearly 30 D in batting average.

"DiMaggio's one transcendent numerical record - his fifty-six game hitting streak in 1941 - deserves the usual accolade of most remarkable sporting episode of the century. Several years ago, I performed a fancy statistical analysis on the data of slumps and streaks, and found that only DiMaggio's shouldn't have happened. All other streaks fall within the expectations for great events that should occur once as a consequence of probabilities, just as an honest coin will come up heads ten times in a row once in a very rare while. But no one should ever have hit in fifty-six straight games. Second place stands at a distant forty-four, a figure reached by Pete Rose and Wee Willie Keeler."

- Stephen Jay Gould, "The Glory of His Time and Ours"
Putin33 (111 D)
18 May 12 UTC
Stephen Jay Gould was even wrong about baseball. What a sad man.
smcbride1983 (517 D)
18 May 12 UTC
How was he wrong? I thinly he point is that it was an amazing feat that is not able to be dismissed as a random occurrence that is expected.

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