Same here, E is very close to a finish.

i dont see how you can stop egypt at this point sorry, theres no stalemate line on either of his fronts that i can see

There was a stalemate before we had a NMR and a CD. I wasn't going to say anything, but poor forum on Egypt if he takes this win because people got tired (5 years) of waiting for him to draw on a stalemate.

wow, thats ridiculous.....

This is an active *gunboat*. Might I suggest this has gone from trying to get a replacement to discussing the game and, therefore, cheating in a gunboat?

give me an password and i will join

i guess joining means i could order an retreat for greece?

yeah, I would also like someone to take over Greece cause the current administrators are fucking thieves.
Oh, I forgot Germany, EU and USA has already taken over Greece and they are the ones who order the current government to steal from the people's pockets.
My bad. :P

Draugnar +1

Both Bartdogg and abgemacht are essentially cheating due to their posts in this thread. Bad form guys.

@ Hellalt,

i thought the EU had to get involved because all those people in Greece are trying to evade taxes :). So it's not only bad goverment, but also the national tax ethics.

Yeah, sorry about that.
@Vic, I don't remember the PW, so...

victorious, yeah the problem in Greece is that people don't pay taxes...
You are SO ignorant.
for every 100 euros I make I pay 50 for taxes.
They are just going to the fat bellies of the morons governing the place.
Of course Germans are not any better since they are the official blackmailers of Europe...

No worries abgemacht, it's just that as a moderator I guess we hold you to a high standard of conduct, and, technically, talking on the forum about your attitude towards one of the other players in a gunboat is not good practice.

P.S. On an unrelated issue, I've just sent an email to the Mod account - can you check it if you have time.

Unfortunately, rl is still preventing me from taking care of mod stuff. I realize it's a bit backed-up, but I think ava (and maybe figle) should be able to take care of it.

ava seems to think figle is on "sabbatical" so hopefully ava will pick this up.

I'll join if someone sends the password.

Draugnar, hellalt +1.

Hellalt,

The smiley ment to say i don't know a lot about Greek tax habits. I just know the stuff Dutch papers say about it :).

Doesnt Greece have an unfunded pension system as well? That basically pays out more money, then gets payed into the fund? Also, rather low age for retirement?

Retirement system that pays out more than it gets funded... Sounds like Social Security.

perry, the greek pension system sucks big time.
I pay around 3000 euros per year only to end up receiving a 300 euros/month pension ( as a lawyer...)
basically I d rather keep my money and get pension by myself rather than give it to them getting almost nothing in return...

Sorry Lando, I just have no idea where to even find the password.

And listen, this was not poor form. We are not discussing anything game related that every other play in the game doesn't already know. We've marked "Draw, Cancel, and Pause" for goodness sakes.

@ bartdogg: "And listen, this was not poor form. We are not discussing anything game related that every other play in the game doesn't already know."

Wrong.

You were appealing for a new player to take over Greece in a gunboat game, while at the same time making disparaging remarks about the Egypt player, thus encouraging the new Greece player to be hostile to Egypt from the outset of his involvement in the game.

This therefore represents discussion of an ongoing gunboat in a manner which heavily frowned upon under the conventions of the webdip community.

Jamiet +1.

Bart, if you ever talk about a gunboat I'm in, I will do everything I can to oppose whatever you are lobbying for. Never, ever, for any reason, at all, ever, under pain of death talk about an ongoing gunboat. It's extremely rude, not to mention cheating.

*Typo: ...which IS heavily frowned upon...

i'd play, but it's gunboat...

☺ - you have a problem with them asking for a replacement player?

Hm. Depends how it's done. They obviously didn't do it appropriately in this context...

Anything beyond a factual description of "We need a new country XYZ in game ZYX with 123 SC's remaining" makes me uncomfortable.

I think everyone's a bit too strict w/the whole no talking thing.
@Jamiet: "You were appealing for a new player to take over Greece in a gunboat game, while at the same time making disparaging remarks about the Egypt player, thus encouraging the new Greece player to be hostile to Egypt from the outset of his involvement in the game. " And would you expect the new Greece not to be against Egypt? This all seems very theoretical and blown out of context.

Also, I think we need somewhere players can go after, say, 5 years, to end a gunboat game, since they can't pressure the player in-game. Not to say I think talking about gunboats generally is acceptable, but if someone is abusing the system for wins, that's another matter.

The only time talking about an ongoing game should be unacceptable is getting strategic advice or forging alliances in a gunboat.