Draugnar, if someone else posted this thread, what is the first thought that pops in your head? No, don't lie, really.

There are a lot of these complaints lately.

Kestas?

Can I make a suggestion? Everyone who thinks this has happened, download a screen recorder, and use that to record your playing on phpdip. Then we can actually ascertain whether or not it does...

hmm once I' ve ordered to build a fleet at Liverpool. then i saw a new fleet at Edinburgh. i thought i was my mistake. but maybe it wasn't?

It's all a conspiracy!!! :)

Even screenshots of finalized orders would be evidence if this really is occuring.

haha same here. i just ordered a fleet build at liverpool, but it gave me an army! i want a refund!!! =P

j/k

The problem is we'd have to record a hell of a lot of play to see one error...

I just mentioned this in the other similar thread, but I had an ally in one of my games say he was sure he'd ordered a fleet build but got an army (we both just chalked it up to user error, but this specific problem seems to be a trend, people ordering fleet builds and then getting armies.). I haven't had the problem so far, but I'll try to start taking screen shots when I finalize my build orders now just in case...

I know that in this game:

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=11610

My August 1903 moves just never happened even though I know I had input them and clicked 'update' until the 'finalize' button appeared.

Also consider it could be a tactic. Imagine being able to swear to your ally that you didnt mean a certain build. Draugnar is enough of a dirtbag to try that. :P

That is true. Though in my case, his building a fleet or army where he did didn't really make any difference to me either way (if anything the army was actually potentially MORE useful to me), he just mentioned it in passing as we were discussing our plans. So I doubt it was a diplomatic tactic when it came to me.

Sorry, in my case the "he" being referred to is my ally, not Draugnar.

DbJ - ssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

We actually log all orders entered, twice. Once when they're entered immediately, before they've been processed at all, and again after they've been processed (these logs are used to draw the maps).
This feature was put here because people were complaining about their orders mysteriously changing, and it was impossible to verify. Since adding the extra order logging every complaint was discovered to be user error.

But there haven't any for a while so I'll check this one out (I was tempted to disable order logging after it turned out there didn't seem to be any problems, but luckily it's still enabled). But I'm betting it'll be the same result as usual

Array
(
[1812264] => Array
(
[type] => Build Army
[toTerr] => Munich
)

[1812265] => Array
(
[type] => Build Fleet
[toTerr] => 0
)

[1812266] => Array
(
[type] => Build Army
[toTerr] => Berlin
)

)


Array
(
[1812264] => Array
(
[type] => Build Army
[toTerr] => Munich
)

[1812265] => Array
(
[type] => Build Fleet
[toTerr] => Kiel
)

[1812266] => Array
(
[type] => Build Army
[toTerr] => Berlin
)

)


Array
(
[1812264] => Array
(
[type] => Build Army
[toTerr] => Munich
)

[1812265] => Array
(
[type] => Build Fleet
[toTerr] => Kiel
)

[1812266] => Array
(
[type] => Build Army
[toTerr] => Berlin
)

)


Array
(
[1812264] => Array
(
[type] => Build Army
[toTerr] => Munich
)

[1812265] => Array
(
[type] => Build Fleet
[toTerr] => Kiel
)

[1812266] => Array
(
[type] => Build Army
[toTerr] => Berlin
)

)


Array
(
[1812264] => Array
(
[type] => Build Army
[toTerr] => Munich
)

[1812265] => Array
(
[type] => Build Army
[toTerr] => Kiel
)

[1812266] => Array
(
[type] => Build Army
[toTerr] => Berlin
)

)


Array
(
[1812264] => Array
(
[type] => Build Army
[toTerr] => Munich
)

[1812265] => Array
(
[type] => Build Army
[toTerr] => Kiel
)

[1812266] => Array
(
[type] => Build Army
[toTerr] => Berlin
)

)


Array
(
[1812264] => Array
(
[type] => Build Army
[toTerr] => Munich
)

[1812265] => Array
(
[type] => Build Army
[toTerr] => Kiel
)

[1812266] => Array
(
[type] => Build Army
[toTerr] => Berlin
)

)

This shows that while at one point you ordered an army be built, the last order entered was that a fleet should be built

Reverse that; while at one point you ordered a fleet be built, the last order entered was that an army should be built

In that case, Kestas, since Draug's complaint was: "I ordered a fleet build in Kiel. It built an army." then your post above proves that there WAS an error.

(Sorry I was obviously typing at the same time as you Kestas)

As an aside, I find that if you have a mouse with a little wheel between the left and right buttons, that can cause all kinds of mistakes...

This is true.

Yes it is... I by accident have already found mistakes done by me because of that wheel.

I really think that the mouse wheel the biggest mistakes maker...

I'll start taking screenshots of my builds. I went fleet then army then back to fleet with an update and finalize each time as I was pondering it all.

I think the last set of records got lost by the system.

Draugnar, so you won't give creedence to the 'dirtbag' theory? ;)

Nope, not being a dirtbag (this time). And there are no date/time stamps on these logs, so how do we know the second pair of fleet orders aren't my final set? You have no frame of reference timewise, which is needed to have a truly complete set of information on which to analyze the sequence of events.

As it happens either works for me, hence my waffling on the decision for a while, but I distinctly remember putting in the final order for a fleet there as I knew I'd need one in the future and didn't want it trapped in the Baltic Sea.

Are we using MySQL by any chance?

We are.