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Kugmaker (100 D)
19 May 13 UTC
First timer
when you join a game how is your country selected? Do you make moves by email or by making moves on the screen?
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TheMinisterOfWar (553 D)
19 May 13 UTC
Gunboat to introduce new players to site
I introduced several friends to Webdiplomacy, through a full-press game. Several players (five!) indicated they want to play another gunboat game on the side to get the hang of the site. They're reasonably experienced, so we're looking for two reasonable other players to give some staunch opposition.
Who feels like a game?!
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Draugnar (0 DX)
19 May 13 UTC
OK so I watched Doctor Who before going to be then had to get nack.on here...
Who, like me, can't wait for next Thanksgiving?
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
19 May 13 UTC
Feature Suggestion for live games (and regular too, I guess)
A lot of times live games get ruined by people not showing up.

Feature suggestion in next post
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
16 May 13 UTC
Thoughts of Americans about opinions of "foreigners"about Americans?
So, Americans, what do you think of our opinions of you? What do you think we think about you? I'm curious, because I hear rather often how we are all blaming America blablabla while I know no one who actually does that.
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
14 May 13 UTC
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School of War Summer 2013 Sign-Ups
I saw some interest in getting a new season going. For those that are interested in participating, see the first post to this thread.
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
11 May 13 UTC
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Thank you, abge, for your years of service to webdip
Abgemacht has been around for almost as long as the site, and he has been such a positive force for the site as a player and a mod/admin. His request to retire has been finally accepted :).
Please join me in thanking abge for his years of service.
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
18 May 13 UTC
Masters Round III
Are the third-round games in the Masters supposed to be gunboat?
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
18 May 13 UTC
Updated Rules and Site Policies
Please read
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ePICFAeYL (221 D)
17 May 13 UTC
I am about to graduate...
Hello WebDip community.
I am about to graduate high school (2 weeks after tomorrow) and I was wondering if anybody here has any general tips or experiences they can share with me and/or anybody who is graduating. I believe many of you on this site have gone through college or high school already, and was just wondering if anybody could ease my nerves about my future.
I am going to be attending University of River Falls - Wisconsin in the USA; I plan on becoming a teacher.
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krellin (80 DX)
15 May 13 UTC
Gay Magical Elves...
http://www.latimes.com/features/books/jacketcopy/la-et-jc-bret-easton-ellis-out-gay-elite-20130514,0,5341223.story

BRAVO to Bret Easton Ellis for saying all the truth a straight white man could never utter. Fuck gay political correctness. I tired of having to pay homage to every bung-plunger that feels the need to reveal his bedroom habits to me!
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2ndWhiteLine (2596 D(B))
16 May 13 UTC
Men's Clothing
I just got my first real job last week and now I'm in a bit of a tight spot. My wardrobe needs to be updated to be semi-professional and done (mostly) on the kind-of cheap. My work environment is not overly formal (no tie or suit) but I still want to look good and purchase good quality and good fitting clothing and would like some recommendations.
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ava2790 (232 D(S))
16 May 13 UTC
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Sorry dude most of the people here are unemployed.
Rancher (1652 D(S))
16 May 13 UTC
you have a real job? join the club, brother .... can't give you any real advice as I am stuck in boring, conservative insurance defense lawyer garb every day
ava2790 (232 D(S))
16 May 13 UTC
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Plus I only ever buy tasty shoes.
2ndWhiteLine (2596 D(B))
16 May 13 UTC
I'll probably be on my feet all or most of the day, so I'll need a good pair of shoes or boots that preferably can be worn with most outfits. I'm thinking a pair of Clarks Desert Boots or something similar from LL Bean since I'll likely be in khakis or chinos every day.

I'll need good quality dress shirts as well. I've always gone to H&M, but unfortunately, there isn't one near me and their website doesn't allow online shopping, so I need a good alternative.

I'm not above thrift shopping.

I'm also thinking better quality stuff than typical mall chains - Gap, JCP, Kohl's, Macy's - you know the brands I'm talking about.


2ndWhiteLine (2596 D(B))
16 May 13 UTC
If the shoes can also be eaten, that would be a plus.
steephie22 (182 D(S))
16 May 13 UTC
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http://www.meidenblog.nl/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/hot-of-not-hakken-met-snoepjes.jpg

Look no further.
Draugnar (0 DX)
16 May 13 UTC
While my personal taste runs towards Jos. A Banks, I know you can't afford that. Kohl's has some decent looking stuff for reasonable prices, especially if you aren't a big guy like me. Shoes... If you are gonna be on your feet as you say, don't skimp. Get a comfortable loafer even if it costs you 50-75 or more.
Draugnar (0 DX)
16 May 13 UTC
Right now, Jos. A Banks has Buy one, get second for $25 and third for free. So for the cost of two pair of pants plus $50, you could get 4 shirts and two pair of pants. That would run about $250 for the whole wardrobe.
2ndWhiteLine (2596 D(B))
16 May 13 UTC
Jos. A Bank doesn't really fit me all that well, I'm on the skinnier side with long gangly arms.
ckroberts (3548 D)
16 May 13 UTC
2ndWL, do you mind being a bit more specific about the kind of job? I have gone through something similar and I have suggestions, but I don't know how helpful they are.
Draugnar (0 DX)
16 May 13 UTC
Eddie Bauer maybe?
Draugnar (0 DX)
16 May 13 UTC
And Jos. A Banks will custom fit their clothes. I never boy off the rack for work clothes prefering to have even my dress shirts tailored to my needs (I'm heavy, yes, but also have extremely broad shoulders so I get a longer sleeve length which normally has broader shoulders then have the sleeves cut down).
Dejan0707 (1608 D)
16 May 13 UTC
Dr. Martens boots are my choice, you cant brake it, they look good, and you are safe if something fall on your foot. You can even go to war in them.
grking (100 D)
16 May 13 UTC
I'm not too big on men's fashion, but I'd suggest Land's End, they sometimes have some pretty good sales.
I'd also agree with Draug on Jos A. Bank for the fancier stuff.
Draugnar (0 DX)
16 May 13 UTC
I never *buy* off the rack...
Draugnar (0 DX)
16 May 13 UTC
I have an Arnold physique... Terminator shoulders with Tom Arnold's chest. :-)
krellin (80 DX)
16 May 13 UTC
Target...owned by Hudson's (last I knew) - decent enough corporate casual availbleonthe cheap.

I highly recommend, on the other hand, chaps and thongs...
Yonni (136 D(S))
16 May 13 UTC
One suggestion would be to only buy enough for your first day or two so you get a feel for how other people dress/temperature of the room. I was in your situation a year ago and, after buying a bunch of clothes, I found that I was able to dress more casually than I had purchased.

As for places, as lame as it is, the Gap works quite well. Their clothes are decent quality and most of their clothes are mundane enough that I don't need to put much thought into what I'm buying.
2ndWhiteLine (2596 D(B))
16 May 13 UTC
I'll be working at the Nashville Public Library as a librarian. Chaps are fine but nothing assless. Attire isn't quite business casual.
Judging by local librarian garb here, I'd think you would do fine with dress shirts and khakis from mall chain stores. I can't recall ever looking at a librarian and thinking, "OMG, his chinos are from Kohl's, not J. Crew" or "now there's a cool kid who deserves to wear American Eagle."
Draugnar (0 DX)
16 May 13 UTC
I have to admit that still believe in the lessons taught in "Dress for Success". Don't dress for the job you have. Dress for the next job up the chain towards the job you want. Most of my coworkers wear jeans/dockers with polo shirts in the summer or casual long-sleeve shirts in the winter and gym shoes or loafers. I wear woolen dress pants with cotton business shirts and well maintained dress shoes all year round. Guess who got made team lead recently. Now I wear a sport coat to the office, but hang it up in my coat closet "coffin" when I get in. Of course, my next step is my bosses job and she isn't retiring for a few years yet, but as the time gets closer, I'll start wearing ties and switch my shirts to full on white and or pastel dress shirts with button down collars. Then when I get her job, it'll be time to switch to wearing the sport coat all the time like her boss. If I ever get that lucky, there is no where else to go because his boss is the owner, Tom Nies.

So don't dress to high up the food chain, but try to stand out as a go getter and work your upward mobility through your clothes and the impression they give about your attitude and desire to succeed.
Draugnar (0 DX)
16 May 13 UTC
And not that I see your posting... Yeah, go to Kohls or Gap.
2ndWhiteLine (2596 D(B))
16 May 13 UTC
Good point Draug. I definitely want to go a step above khakis and a polo shirt and I don't think that will be too difficult.
ckroberts (3548 D)
16 May 13 UTC
OK, here is what I would recommend.

For shoes, Clarks are a good decision. Get one brown and one dark gray and, if you can afford it, another pair of brown Dockers-y sort boat shoes (dress shoes last a lot longer if you don't wear them back-to-back; they need to completely dry). These will all be in style far longer than they will last.

If you have a very small budget, go to Target or Old Navy or somewhere like that and get a couple of pair of tan pants and a couple of white or subtly patterned shirts. Use these as your base while you build up the rest. If not, I guess don't.

This is the part that I hate but you might not. A moderately priced shirt or pair of pants that fits properly looks better than a more expensive ill-fitting piece. Go to the local mall and go to all the decent clothing stores (I think J Crew and Banana Republic are good bets, maybe Brooks Brothers, depending on your style and budget; Gap actually has some pretty okay stuff). Try on everything. I hate trying on clothes and looking in mirrors because clothes don't fit me, and it will probably be the case for you, so that's why you just keep looking. Once you find something that looks good, get it and more importantly carefully note what it is.

Find stuff that fits and will work with anything forever -- solid white and blue shirts or subdued and tasteful stripes and patterns. Three white shirts, two blue shirts, and two subtle patterned shirts will go with almost anything. For pants, get two or three flat-front khakis and one or two gray, again depending on your style and budget. As your wardrobe expands you can get more distinctive clothes that you will wear less often. Because stuff is always on sale, I wouldn't expect to pay more than forty bucks or so for a shirt or fifty bucks or more for pants in this range, and you can probably get them for thirty or less if you are willing to really put some legwork into it.

For reference, I am a college history instructor at a laid back school.

H&M and Joseph A Banks and those kind of places (the "Buy one suit, get three free" type) make clothes that are in the long run not worth it because they are cheaply made and won't last long. Don't buy them unless you are in a situation where you've only got a couple of hundred bucks and need a full weeks' worth of clothes.
ckroberts (3548 D)
16 May 13 UTC
I probably should be more specific: when I talk about shirts, I am talking about button-up long-sleeved sport shirts. If things are casual, you can roll the sleeves up and even (if it's got the right kind of fit) untuck it; if things get dressy you can follow Draug's advice an throw on a sportcoat.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
16 May 13 UTC
LOL Steephie

On day one just go business formal and never change again.
2ndWhiteLine (2596 D(B))
16 May 13 UTC
I've got a few solid wardrobe pieces - two or three nice pairs of khakis, the standard blue and white dress shirts, and a good pair of brown Bass dress shoes.

My biggest problem is finding clothes that actually fit me well. I'm tall and fairly skinny so a lot of shirts end up looking baggy or arms aren't long enough. H&M fits really well but there isn't one near me, unfortunately. Old Navy is shit and I've also heard bad things about Jos A Banks quality.
2ndWhiteLine (2596 D(B))
16 May 13 UTC
Definitely long sleeved, button up sport shirts. I've always thought that short sleeve dress shirts were tacky anyway.
Draugnar (0 DX)
16 May 13 UTC
Jos. A Banks will last if properly cared for. Now, Men's Wearhouse is crap that wears out in a year or two, but I have two suits (light gray and charcoal), three sport coats (Navy blazer, brown semi-casual, and teal blazer) and nine pairs of slacks varying in color from browns to blues to greys to tans to black that have lasted me upwards of three years now and all still look great. The key is to rotate and don't over dry clean. About once a month I take half of the slacks to the cleaners as they will have had 4 or 5 wearings in that time. The sports coats tend to hang in the closet at work and the suits gte only occassioanl use so they only get it a couple times a year. My shirts get washed after each day of work, but whatever I wear to church on Sunday gets hung up and worn to work the next day, and then when the pants get cleaned, I carry some of the shirts in to be professionalled laundered and pressed (no starch please).

I have shirts that still look good after 2+ years and slacks over three years old. Now I admit that I do like to buy clothes regularly and even turned a spare bedroom into *my* closet/dressing room and humidor room, so I have no concern with giving a slightly worn pair of slacks to good will when I buy new ones. But Jos. A Banks does make some decent stuff.

If you watch close, though, they *always* have a sale going on. So their prices are misleading. I'd prefer if they just said $75 for a pair of pants and $125 for a sport coat) instead of putting a $350-$400 price tag on a coat and then giving you two free.
krellin (80 DX)
16 May 13 UTC
"Jos. A Banks will last if properly cared for."

So will good leather chaps and thongs...

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2ndWhiteLine (2596 D(B))
18 May 13 UTC
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
17 May 13 UTC
I Have Been, And Always Shall Be, Your Shakespeare & Star Trek Nerd: Trek 12/2?
Is he dead, Jim, or zipping along at Warp 9...thoughts?
What's everyone think about this latest adventure? (Come on out, you fellow Trekkies and casual viewers alike...though those of you that hated the Abrams reset--I thought it was good overall, rough in patches--well...if you didn't like Star Trek 2009, oh, are you going to hate this one...it really IS Star Trek 12/2, down to the very lines...but does it work?)
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ava2790 (232 D(S))
17 May 13 UTC
Using the vote button in gunboat
Can someone please clarify what the new rules are about using the vote buttons in gunboat? Back in the day communication using these buttons was accepted (eg. "Cancel" = let's stop fighting, "Draw" = let's take out the big guy, "Pause" = Somebody help me, etc.). I know there was some tl;dr about it in the Gunboat Tournament thread but if any mods/admins can clear it up here i'd appreciate it.
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FlemGem (1297 D)
14 May 13 UTC
personal accomplishment thread
I coach middle school track and led my teams to a pretty darn good finish at our conference meet tonight. If you've done something cool recently and you'd like to indulge in a little shameless self-promotion, this is the thread for you.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
16 May 13 UTC
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I finally have a job!
Just got a great offer at a major high-tech company. To celebrate, I'll be going for Gold Donor status.

If you have something to celebrate, share here!
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jmbostwick (2308 D)
17 May 13 UTC
Want 250 free points?
Replacement Italy needed for end-game stalemate line: gameID=115863
Buy-in is 44 D, a position in the draw will net you at least 250 D in return. All you have to do is play nice with Russia and France against Germany and Turkey.
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TheMinisterOfWar (553 D)
17 May 13 UTC
Grey Press WTA - join!
I've introduced some real life friends to webdip in a slow game. Being the addicts we are, we're also starting a sidegame with some of the players. But just to repeat: Note that some of the players know each other.

Looking for two more!
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mlbone (112 D)
17 May 13 UTC
3 more needed for worldwide gunboat!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=117216
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Julien (2065 D)
17 May 13 UTC
I love Diplomacy!
I love this game!!! What about you?
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yaks (218 D)
17 May 13 UTC
Ghost-Rating Game
Im trying to find a game with people who are not so much better than me that I have no chance of winning, yet at the same time one filled with competent players who wont throw away games with stupid moves.
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KingShem (100 D)
17 May 13 UTC
Post your questions here.
The thread for your questions about the game, luckily someone here will answer you.

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SYnapse (0 DX)
16 May 13 UTC
Driving lessons (UK)
I'm on my third driving lesson now after having done 4 1/2 hours with my instructor.
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
17 May 13 UTC
Capitalism Works!
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/16/world/middleeast/tunneling-kfc-to-gazans-craving-the-world-outside.html

“Despite the blockade, KFC made it to my home.” - half-starved Gazan who had to turn to black-market criminal smugglers for fried chicken after Hamas, Israel, and the UN all refused to satisfy the demand.
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VxLam (169 D)
17 May 13 UTC
Egypt starting moves
recently i have seen people using a new starter for Egypt where they rush for Carthage i was just curious is this a effective method??
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Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
16 May 13 UTC
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Masters Round 1 Game 4
Short EOG and notification to julien: Tie game bitch. ;)
gameID=110367
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Octavious (2701 D)
16 May 13 UTC
Facebook Supports Fascism
Ok... just popped on to facebook and my eyes wondered over the sponsored adverts list that seems to dominate the place these days...
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
16 May 13 UTC
Decent Austria Gunboat Position
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=117623
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ava2790 (232 D(S))
16 May 13 UTC
Ok webdip...wth?
As of 10 seconds ago, clicking on any of the menu links on top opens the link in a new tab. Eg. Home, Forum, Games, New Game, Settings, Help.
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