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brainbomb (325 D)
01 Jul 17 UTC
Is the voter fraud investigation a distraction?
Is it Republican Data mining? Beating a dead horse? Or all of the above. It feels like its designed to help Republicans gain shitloads of unsolicited free information about voters. Why else would they need such data? Why not trust the states - many of which are Red states to uphold fair elections.
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Valis2501 (2232 D (G))
29 Jun 17 UTC
Claiming To Represent Flynn, GOPer Sought Clinton Emails From Hackers
https://www.wsj.com/articles/gop-operative-sought-clinton-emails-from-hackers-implied-a-connection-to-flynn-1498770851
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Manwe Sulimo (630 D)
09 Jun 17 UTC
300 Point Game
Anybody down to play a 5 min phase anonymous gunboat? I'll need to give final approval for all participants, but if you'd like to express interest, do so in this thread. I'm thinking 07/01/2017 at 5pm EST.
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leon1122 (170 D)
27 Jun 17 UTC
CNN Exposed In Undercover Sting - Producer Admits Russia Story Fake News
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-27/cnn-exposed-undercover-sting-producer-admits-russia-story-fake-news-pushed-ratings
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Dorian (239 D)
01 Jul 17 UTC
Non-random picks
Is it possible to have non-random picks for custom games and tournament play?
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Deeply_Dippy (458 D)
29 Jun 17 UTC
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RIP Jim-Bob Burgess
Yesterday, Doug Kent of Diplomacy World announced the passing of Jim Burgess - one of the Hobby's most consistent and valued publishers.
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mfontecilla (301 D)
28 Jun 17 UTC
New Player Registering Error
Hi guys, hope you're doing well. A friend of mine is having issues opening an account, however the validation keeps saying "Mailer error: SMTP Error: Could not authenticate." Does anyone knows how to solve this?
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SuperMario0727 (204 D)
26 Jun 17 UTC
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Diplomacy Strategy: Sphere Theory
First and foremost, this "theory" is based on articles written by other members of the Diplomacy community. This thread is simply an elaboration of those ideas.

This "theory" attempts to craft a general strategy for the game that can be used as a guideline for players.
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cb6000 (100 D (S))
29 Jun 17 UTC
New fleets only game
Game where players build only fleets. Rule change results in non standard openings. gameID=201181. Pw = boats4
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
30 Jun 17 UTC
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Status, wealth, racism, and maybe some socialism.
So at the moment US republicans are trying to make sure access to healthcare is dependent on wealth. But discrimination based on status goes a long way back...
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The_Meep (100 D)
29 Jun 17 UTC
New player - submitting support orders
Hi. Could someone please explain the syntax for submitting a support order? It shows up as: Army at X support move to Y from Z.
So, X is the supporting army. But is Y the Army that is being supported or the territory that they are attacking?
Thanks!
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brainbomb (325 D)
30 Jun 17 UTC
Have you ever been to Hell?
Some people have near death experiences and claim they see white light and hear heavenly music. Some have even claimed to have been to heaven and come back. But has anyone ever been to Hell? Like they go into a coma or have a near death moment and learn theyre going to hell?
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Randomizer (189 D)
21 Jun 17 UTC
EU court says coincidence is good enough
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/21/health/vaccines-illness-european-court-bn/index.html
Court ruling that scientific proof isn't needed to blame a drug for illness. Just get enough cases to establish cause and effect.
Randomizer (189 D)
21 Jun 17 UTC
I blame the Republican rise to power for my poor health. I was better when I was younger and Bill Clinton was president. Anyone else want to join in a class action suit?
Ehh, that ruling kinda sucks though
bo_sox48 (4789 D Mod (G))
21 Jun 17 UTC
That is a terrible ruling, and yet again the anti-vax platform is given a degree of legitimacy even though the platform they stand on is the lives of young kids and adults without access to vaccinations around the world.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
21 Jun 17 UTC
isn't getting cases to establish cause and effect the scientific method?
No, because simple cause and effect is unreliable. There could unrelated, independent causes for each instance.
TrPrado (456 D Mod)
21 Jun 17 UTC
Well I don't think I've ever supported Brexit until now.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
21 Jun 17 UTC
Also, which court? All i an find is Russian and American news reports saying 'the EU's highest court' - but the EU doesn't have a supreme court, the Council of Europe does have a European court of human rights (which applies to countries outside the EU, like Russia aswell... infact of the European countries, only two are not members of the Council of Europe, those being Vatican City, and Belarus... )

Not reported in any of the local news sources i can find (on the first page of google, maybe it is buried somewhere).
bo_sox48 (4789 D Mod (G))
21 Jun 17 UTC
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Correlation is not causation, ora.

http://i1.wp.com/www.ithinkwell.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/correlation-does-not-imply-causation.png?resize=523%2C358

Does anyone actually think that organic food causes autism? Of course not. That's the point.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
21 Jun 17 UTC
(oh, look i found an answer to one of my questions: this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Court_of_Human_Rights is not https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Court_of_Justice
and it was the court for establishing EU laws, and the court for all of Europe on human rights. So that is interesting.)
orathaic (1009 D (B))
21 Jun 17 UTC
@Bo, true bo, but this ruling seems a bit vague, and does allow individual national courts to take these cases and determine what the causation is if they want, as far as i can tell...
bo_sox48 (4789 D Mod (G))
21 Jun 17 UTC
They can determine the causation based on correlation, without clear evidence. It opens the door to numerous bad rulings favoring poor logic and bad science. Thus, it is a bad ruling.
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
23 Jun 17 UTC
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That's the european union. Bad laws, bad rulings, bad politicians, bad science, bad bureaucrats.
diplomat61 (263 D)
23 Jun 17 UTC
@Orathaic. It must be the ECJ. ECHR is only for HR matters.
diplomat61 (263 D)
23 Jun 17 UTC
That's Capt Brad. Bad analysis.
diplomat61 (263 D)
23 Jun 17 UTC
@TrPrado. One bad ruling and you want Brexit?
TrPrado (456 D Mod)
23 Jun 17 UTC
Bit of a sarcastic jab. I'm also American, so...
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
23 Jun 17 UTC
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The EU claims to have brought about prosperity and stability in Europe, but those claims are increasingly at odds with reality. Europe is becoming worryingly unstable and is falling behind other regions in terms of economic growth. The EU model, which is marked by overregulation and centralization, seems increasingly out of place in today’s world. What European countries need in the coming decades is openness, rather than regional protectionism, and flexibility, rather than overregulation from Brussels.
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
23 Jun 17 UTC
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In recent years, a serious problem has emerged: the mismanagement of mass immigration from Africa and the Middle East. While immigration can be a force for good, European countries have been generally unsuccessful at integrating foreigners. Much of that failure has to do with government policies, such as extensive welfare provisions and labor-market restrictions that keep immigrants out of the workforce, and some have to do with a particularly European understanding of nationhood, which is based on ethnicity, not citizenship. Rightly or wrongly, the failure of Europe’s immigration policy, which has allowed for a large influx of foreigners whom Brussels is now trying to forcefully “redistribute” among the member states, has succeeded in awakening an epic level of resentment.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
23 Jun 17 UTC
the EU is currently struggling with a refugee crisis (mostly due to the civil war in Syria, or proxy cold war between the US/Saudis and Russia/Iran, as it has become much more than a civil war...) but that is not the EU's fault, the countries of the EU, members states, remain sovereign, and they can't agree how to best deal with immigration.

As for the economy. How can it be 'lagging behind'? we are already the largest block in the world by total GDP. 1% growth for a big number is more than 10% growth of a small number.

The fact is small poorer nations have a lot of low hanging fruit to grab. Easy options to expand their economies, while developed nations have already done these things. The have only more difficult options for growth. And the % will be smaller because they are already fairly large.

India and China may be growing faster, and will eclipse the EU in a few years, but they have over a billion people each living in various stages of poverty. When they drag themselves out of poverty, their total GDP will be large than the ~510 million EU citizens. Though China and India are far from being double the EU GDP rate... so in terms of absolute wealth, we are still doing very well.

Only the US can be fairly compared to the EU, and the US is in a huge amount of debt, fighting multiple wars, failing to provide basic necessities like health care, socialising the debts of massive banks (who privatised their gains). The US is not a model i would care to follow - especially not given their role in the refugee crisis, and the military actions against Syrians.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
23 Jun 17 UTC
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@Diplomat you said: "It must be the ECJ. ECHR is only for HR matters."

yeah, thanks, i finally found a (non-US) based news site which confirmed that.

Clearly i know less about the EU and ECJ than i would like to think i do...
orathaic (1009 D (B))
23 Jun 17 UTC
Also this just happened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnGy9kk_0Bg
Ogion (4108 D)
23 Jun 17 UTC
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Actually, I would read the actual ruling first. Journalists often get the rulings howlingly wrong.
slypups (1889 D)
23 Jun 17 UTC
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I can't wait to run my height enhancing drug trial on the children of NBA players. With my causation-proving trial in hand, I can market my drug to help people grow taller.
eturnage (500 D (B))
23 Jun 17 UTC
Generally speaking correlation is not the same as causation. However, when you have a statistically significant result, the statistics establish causation. For example, high numbers of leukemia incidences around the location of a site of chemical poisoning.
Randomizer (189 D)
23 Jun 17 UTC
But there you have some scientific basis in that the chemical is linked to health problems. Compare that to the cell phones cause brain tumors or electrical power lines cause cancer correlations studies where the measured amount is lower where there are higher cases and other flaws.
eturnage (500 D (B))
26 Jun 17 UTC
What scientific basis would you like? Sometimes these neurological diseases, such as autism, are so complex, it is hard to establish a causal connection with anything but statistics.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
29 Jun 17 UTC
Beetrr analysis of the ECJ decision: http://www.nature.com/news/vaccine-ruling-from-europe-s-highest-court-isn-t-as-crazy-as-scientists-think-1.22222?WT.mc_id=TWT_NatureNews&sf93713924=1
diplomat61 (263 D)
29 Jun 17 UTC
Thanks for the link Orathaic. As one might have expected the initial MSM reports were more sensationalist than accurate.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
29 Jun 17 UTC
So....falsifiability?
Ogion (4108 D)
29 Jun 17 UTC
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Trust the science reporters to be the only ones to get the law right. Two areas regular reporters nearly always screw up are science and law.

So, you can submit to a court eveidence that is of a lower standard than what applies to scientific findings? That's both reasonable and a good thing. If they had ruled the other way, no injured party could ever win because they couldn't even get their evidence introduced

This ruling is about what your can legally raise before a court, not about whether it wins the case.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
29 Jun 17 UTC
I wonder can a court find insufficient evidence, and order for more evidence to be collected? I don't think that is something which happens, but... Well i don't see why not.


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CommanderByron (858 D (S))
28 Jun 17 UTC
NORTH CENTRAL PA F2F Inquiry
My restaurant is looking to host a game night; I do not have a date or time but are there 7+ people in the area or willing to travel to Williamsport PA; if such an event were planned?
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Scrub (203 D)
29 Jun 17 UTC
Live game
I've always wanted to try a live game and today I actually have a free day. Please join gameID=201182 and post more live games to join
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WildcatSir19 (347 D)
28 Jun 17 UTC
Known World
How do you start a game of the variant Known World?
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peterlund (1310 D (G))
27 Jun 17 UTC
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US image - steep decline
But I guess you don't care... ;(
http://www.pewglobal.org/2017/06/26/u-s-image-suffers-as-publics-around-world-question-trumps-leadership/
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Yoyoyozo (182 D)
28 Jun 17 UTC
Largest pot game ever?
In September I'm going to start a game titled "Wrath of the Titans."
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MajorMitchell (1092 D)
28 Jun 17 UTC
Contest to decide if Dipbro Brainbomb is real
World games, anonymous and names, Classic Anon and names, Classic, HDV & RP...all only five points to enter....passwords, crack them if you can ( they're very simple )
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Hippopankake (80 D)
28 Jun 17 UTC
Need person
I need 1 more person for a modern game there is no password modern-8 is the games name
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Hamilton Brian (733 D (B))
25 Jun 17 UTC
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GB 3 Game Tournament
Being in the middle of a pretty long, drawn-out game, I feel the need to flex some tactical muscle. I'd like to propose a 3 game, semi-anon, 24 hour phase, WTA series. Preference is for a high reliability (<80%) and moderate to high GR. 25 to 50 point buy-in. Once we get the 7, games will be created and PW messaged out.

1) Hamilton Brian RR 98%, general GR position of 177
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wel_120984 (124 D)
28 Jun 17 UTC
Question about dislodgement and support
Hi guys!

I've been playing Diplomacy for one year but now I'm re-reading the rulebook and I've bumped into one question.
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Maru (100 D)
28 Jun 17 UTC
Authentication is broken
Authentication is broken, people can't make new accounts.
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Jamiet99uk (437 D)
27 Jun 17 UTC
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Magic Money Trees
The UK's totally bankrupt Prime Minister, Theresa May, told nurses they couldn't have a pay rise because "there isn't a magic money tree".

But this week there was £1.5 billion of magic money to give to some extreme-right Northern Irish homophobes with strong connections to terrorism.
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Wiza Mastermind (0 D X)
25 Jun 17 UTC
Unhelpful Allies
Quick question, does anyone get annoyed by allies who send you messages saying really obvious things about what other countries did last turn or where you could easily get a SC. Basically all the information that is super clear that everyone could figure out but they decide to tell you anyways. Am I the only one who feels this way?
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brainbomb (325 D)
25 Jun 17 UTC
Braimbomb in vegas
So I just won 2.50$ after spending 23.00$. Ohhhh yea baby VEGAS
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brainbomb (325 D)
28 Jun 17 UTC
GATORS ARE NATIONAL CHAMPS
Hell yes. Florida just won the CWS for the first time in school history.
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bakay_ilya (100 D)
28 Jun 17 UTC
hey
Let's play blitz the game ,missing 1 man
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AngrySeas (346 D)
28 Jun 17 UTC
Home Game
Is there a way to run a game from one computer? In a face to face game, players would submit their orders to the moderator who logs them into the program for resolution, afterwards updating the public board. Does anyone know how to make this work?
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Manwe Sulimo (630 D)
20 Jun 17 UTC
Limited Libertarian Location
Thread for Libertarians to be selfish and greedy without the chiding from those on the left and right. It's our ball and we're taking it home!
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