Free speech is under attack by a bunch of uneducated dipshits looking for an excuse to destroy stuff? I thonk you just dont know who or what you are harping about.

What would you like them to do ND? Are you trying to mass apply the behavior of angsty millenials onto all people who disapprove of Trump policies?

Remember when you said the Republican party doesnt identify with violent acts by the KKK, Aryan Brotherhood, Alt Right? So why is this shit the embodiment of the left

The college should be immediately cut off from public funding if they do not disavow these protesters. This is just another example of how the intolerant, militant, authoritarian, left attacks anyone with a different viewpoint.

The protesters wer not just uneducated "dipshits" they were college militant leftists. Every democrat politician in this country should disavow them as should the college.

Can we impeach this orange clown already? I'm getting ulcers

So a college should lose funding because some lunatics who may not even be students comitted a series of felonies?

You are a fucking bigot ND.

This thread was designed to target democrats as criminals and felons. The OP is bigotry and id like this thread locked.

The left is neither militant nor authoritarian the right controls all branches of government do that makes zero sense. And militant!!! BAHAHA

On what occasions has the left as a party condoned militant behavior? Considering were the party of limiting gun rights thats an absurd ass fucking thing to say.

Im muting ND permanently. If he is in mafia games with me I will not unmute. I will not speak to a bigot who hates women and democrats.

Militant leftists pepper sprayed trump supporters in the face.. why can't you agree that these people should be disavowed?

Also how does taking money from a campus that supports the suppression of free speech make someone a bigot?

I would read a little about the concept of free speach before making more threads lkke this.

@ND
"We condemn in the strongest possible terms the violence and unlawful behavior that was on display and deeply regret that those tactics will now overshadow the efforts to engage in legitimate and lawful protest against the performer's presence and perspectives".
Is that not disavowing the protesters? Furthermore, the talk was shut down due to the riot, and an attempt to ensure the safety of all who showed up.

@Ezio: That's a good start. I hadn't seen this previously. Is this from the campus?

Are there additional statements like this from CA lawmakers? I do think this militant behavior needs to be disavowed by the left as the demonstrators deliberately targeted a conservative speaking event.

"these protesters"
"Militant leftists"

Don't worry, guys, ND always uses consistent definitions.

The violence has been condemned. The protests have not been and will not be.

@Lethologica: Did you look at the link at the Trump supporters, a woman, who had a Trump hat on? She got pepper sprayed in the face.

I am glad that this was condemned, but really it should be condemned by everyone.

Nothing you wrote disagrees with anything I wrote, ND.

I am glad you agree then.

"uneducated dipshits"

I don't know about that. I'd think that Berkeley students would have some degree of education.

@"ND
Militant leftists pepper sprayed trump supporters in the face.. why can't you agree that these people should be disavowed?"

1) Violence is only acceptable when it is in self-defence (or defence of others).
(I am a pacifist and have strongly condemned state terror instigate by the US many times)
1a) Violence is not restricted to physical violence. (And never has been)

2) threatened or advocated for the death of millions (genocide) is an act of violence.

3) Opposing this violece is the duty of all who value human rights.

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If you're not willin to condemn the murder of black children by police. The destruction of a Mosque in Texas, or the violence against peaceful protesters in Dakota. Then you have fuck all sympathy from me when a rascist, fascist, bigot gets pepper sprayed.

"The violence has been condemned."

Yet nothing is done about it. ZERO rioters have been arrested, and this is what police were doing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5ropvk/i_was_at_uc_berkeley_last_night_here_is_a_pic_i/

"Im muting ND permanently. If he is in mafia games with me I will not unmute. I will not speak to a bigot who hates women and democrats."

Liberal millennials torch a building and beat Trump supporters, yet ND is the bigot? SMH. You also seem to be getting your definitions mixed up again. Bigotry is someone who is intolerant of opposing opinions. Muting someone seems like the epitome of such behavior.

"Violence is not restricted to physical violence."

You suck, orathaic. Fuck you. Oh no, are you hurt? Shucks. I guess I'm a racist, fascist bigot who deserves to get pepper sprayed.

"threatened or advocated for the death of millions (genocide) is an act of violence."

When did this happen, exactly? Are you imagining things, orathaic? I think President Trump is just too much for your puny brain to handle.

"Opposing this violece is the duty of all who value human rights."

No such "violece" has occurred.

"If you're not willin to condemn the murder of black children by police"

I condemn the killing of all innocent people. Black children are no exception. I do not know a single person who has advocated for the death of black children.

"The destruction of a Mosque in Texas"

At this point, who knows what's true and what's false? Did you condemn the black person who burned down the black church to frame it on Trump supporters? How do you know that this mosque is any different?

"violence against peaceful protesters in Dakota"

You mean upholding the law?

"Then you have fuck all sympathy from me when a rascist, fascist, bigot gets pepper sprayed."

It appears that conservatives should defend ourselves as well. And know, orathaic, that we have more guns than you do. Don't start what you can't finish.

@brainbomb

"Remember when you said the Republican party doesnt identify with violent acts by the KKK, Aryan Brotherhood, Alt Right? So why is this shit the embodiment of the left"

There able to be leftists and be violent. They're not the representative of the entire left but they certainly hold values on that side of the spectrum

The KKK generally holds ideals more on the right side of the spectrum, though they're also not entirely representative of the right.

I'm sorry you have to keep reminding people of this, thanks for keeping up the good work.

@orathaic

"If you're not willin to condemn the murder of black children by police. The destruction of a Mosque in Texas, or the violence against peaceful protesters in Dakota. Then you have fuck all sympathy from me when a rascist, fascist, bigot gets pepper sprayed."

i do condemn all the wrongful things there, and I am here too. Secondly, using a wrong to justify another wrong... what's that phrase? two wrongs make a right? that's not it...

@ishirkmywork

"Can we impeach this orange clown already? I'm getting ulcers"

wow. this was your FIRST comment in reaction to the berkley riots. Like not even one thing on topic.

@Leon, i didn't see you support the Black Lives Matter movement once on this forum.

But maybe that's unfair, i see ND (not you) coming out on the forum condemning this pepper spray incident, and not the other examples.


@"you mean upholding the law?"

You realise that the law once allowed slavery. That it is the law does not make it right.

When the native americans were murdered, removed from their land, force marched to their deaths, and evacuated into ever shrinking 'reservations', did the law protect them? Their culture and people destroyed, in what amounts to not just murder but genocide. And you now think 'upholding the law' is justification for diverting a pipeline away from land where white farmers objected to it? To land which includes sacred bruial grounds. On what is technically and legally (by treaty with the US) their land?

Are you actually serious in this claim? Do you understand how simple minded you appear?

@"It appears that conservatives should defend ourselves as well. And know, orathaic, that we have more guns than you do. Don't start what you can't finish."

Conservatives are not being threatened, but you did just threaten me. See the difference?

I said it is morally justified to punch someone who advocates genocide (and this has happened), and you threatened to shoot me.

@"You suck, orathaic. Fuck you. Oh no, are you hurt? Shucks. I guess I'm a racist, fascist bigot who deserves to get pepper sprayed."

No, you deserve to be muted or banned, to the full extend of the forum rules. But i'd have thought you love upholding the law so much you'd have avoided that...

https://amp.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2017/jan/31/the-punch-a-nazi-meme-what-are-the-ethics-of-punching-nazis

Also since you don't seem to have a clue about racism, here's a quick guide:
https://youtu.be/BGIetWAds6A

Part 2:
https://youtu.be/2n-GugSGHhE