The point is they are still better off than under Shiara Law.

Women have had rights for a while in the USA. Since then the government has more and more catered to the foolish masses more out of compassion over common sense. Learn from us, Arabs. Follow the example of the west, Arabs, and you too can have governments that are constantly closer and closer to bankruptcy with no possible way of reversing the situation.

What are you babbling about, Amon? Are you suggesting that giving women equal rights leads to financial ruin? How are these two issues linked in your analysis?

Interestingly, before women "got their rights", most households in the US were able to subsist on a single income. Then along comes the ridiculous notion that the womyn's have to be free and vote and all the crap, and suddenly most households struggle on two incomes...

just sayin...

What are you sayin? What exactly is your point?

Incidentally Hitler was born on a Wednesday

The next time that your birthday falls on Wednesday you'll become a Nazi

Before the concentration camps were abolished by those leftist American troops, most Jews were able to subsist on a single piece of bread per day. Then along comes this ridiculous notion that we shouldn't slaughter an entire race of people, and suddenly we have to have a menorah in City Hall because we have one Jewish family in the neighborhood.

"How are these two issues linked in your analysis?"

If I were to hazard a guess, it'd be thus:

Women voting means more electoral support for Entitlements and other social spending, which leads to "bankruptcy". This theory might work in the USA, but not in the UK where women have tended to vote Tory.

Also nevermind that taxes are at an all-time low.

"What are you sayin? What exactly is your point?"

That no-fault divorce plus women in the workplace led to more financial independence for women and thus fewer women wanted to put up with bad marriages - > leading to more divorce and consequentially, financial struggles.

There, I can speak rightwing-ese.

"The same CANNOT be said about the condition of women elsewhere."

Pakistan had a woman lead their country. The USA hasn't.

Just want to point that out, since you seem to think such an occurrence is unthinkable. I know Pakistan is not an Arab state, but their Deobandi-ish brand of Islam is pretty conservative so I think the example is applicable.

Hey Krellz, have you told your daughters that they shouldn't be able to vote or have rights?

Ahhhhhh ha ha ha ha! Good god, Putin takes the bait hook line and sinker.

Dance monkey! Dance!!!

Another interesting fact - we didn't have a problem with the wide use of methamphetamine in the U.S. until after the (claimed) Moon landing.

You're right Krellz.

You don't have daughters. Fooled again.

True enough. A part of the reason why I said Arab. Keep in mind she was the scion of the most powerful political family in Pakistan, though. If Caroline Kennedy were as competent as Benazir Bhutto was we may have already had a woman president.

At any rate, my point's still valid. In the West women can and do occupy powerful, important positions throughout society. Not at a parity to men by any means, but they're there. That is not the case elsewhere.

Dance, monkey, dance! Putty, if only I had a tin cup for you to carry when I start to play you,...we'd be rich.

Fuck, if you're going to start using female leaders as a measure of gender equality, Czar Russia scored higher than the USA.

As did late Qing China and Ptolemaic Egypt.

Willfully ignoring the point I'm making.

Oh, and Nigee, whenever you complain about an existing solution to a major problem, you should come armed with another solution or else you will come off as a dickhead and won't be taken seriously. Go like some "awareness" posts on facebook so you can pretend you're solving the worlds problems and leave us in peace.

Women don't think the same way men do, it's proven. Thus, they cannot vote the same way. Women are more susceptible to the compassion arguments than the arguments based on logic. These are facts based on averages, of course. There are exceptional women who have brains.

Shocker - you are so absolutely right, next time I'm going to do exactly what you say because the one thing that really concerns me in this world is not serious human rights abuses but whether I 'come off as a dickhead'.
It's really helpful having intelligent people on the forum who can point this stuff out so I gotta thank you .... 'awareness' posts you say, Facebook you say, solving world problems you say ...... you must be a very clever man.

"There are exceptional women who have brains." - show us the picture or it didn't happen

"...because the one thing that really concerns me in this world is not serious human rights abuses but whether I 'come off as a dickhead'."

Exactly. If you actually cared about human rights you would be doing something about it, rather than sitting here telling everyone how noble and good you are for acknowledging the fact that these human rights issues exist. But what makes you utterly disgusting is not the fact you are one of many "slacktivist drones" who tell people about these dastardly things other people do to make yourself feel good because you think you're actually doing something about it when you're quite clearly not, but rather that you are part of the problem you are claiming to solve by telling everyone what they are doing won't solve it.

""There are exceptional women who have brains." - show us the picture or it didn't happen"
Classy.

You're worse than the people who point out women aren't treated fairly by men and have to put up with a lot of sexual harassment by misogynist meat heads, then go on to whinge about how they've been put in the friendzone because they've been turned down and start complaining how women only find men who treat them badly attractive as though they're some sort of saint that all women want to fuck at every opportunity because they're so sensitive and open-minded toward feminism.

And you can't even pretend it was a joke, because you're the paragon of politically correct. You've backed yourself into a corner. There's no way out, people are going to think you're a total douche. You will no longer be the last bastion of humanity's kindness. We're all doomed!

Shocker - "people are going to think you're a total douche"
...... to be fair Trooper I get the feeling they already know.

Perception, projection ..... no, I won't bother, I think we get the picture.

Hey how come this lad didn't get a happy pill when they were doing the rounds, don't tell me Krellin and Putin finished them off ..... greedy bastards !!

If the point of this thread was not to sate your need to be seen as a true humanitarian, then why does it exist?

Headline News - "Idiot earns true humanitarian credentials by posting news story on webdip forum"
The plaudits have been pouring in, a knighthood is sure to follow......

Trooper you must understand this simple truism ..... the more you talk about me the more you tell us about yourself. As I said perception is projection.
If you truly want to understand another persons actions or motives you probably need to either know them better or just be more intelligent.
Seeing everyones intentions through your own world view is going to fail real quick unless the person is exactly like you ..... and I am nothing like you.
Try using a 3rd person perspective when making judgements about others could be a could ploy.
Everyday is a school day ......

Or it makes a point about the people I put up with on a day to day basis.

But please, enlighten me. What is the purpose of this thread if not to trigger the chemical reaction in your brain that occurs when you do the "right thing"?