Put should be pot in two places.

It depends on the type of game.
In WTA, it's a very simply formula.

Each player contributes 1/16.5 (iirc) of their GR into a pot. All drawing parties get an even amount. If the draw size is big enough a you contribute enough points compared to everyone else, it is possible to lose poin over all.

For PPSC, it's slightly more complicated because your share of the pot depends on how many centres you have but if you follow it through, the same cases exist.

No it doesn't, Yonni. Even PPSC splits the GR pot evenly in a draw.

Hmm. Thought not. Not sure how GR accounts for PPSC (if it does at all) then.
I'll have to check out TGM's site later.

It does, but only in wins...not in draws.

K, thanks. I assume its actually only in survives - in a win you should always be rewarded for 18sc.

Yeah, in wins, I believe it is limited to 18. So, if you did something tricky and were able to capture 30, you would still be awarded only for 18...I believe.

This is all a little funny because there's a disconnect in the way that webDip points an GR deal with PPSC draws.
At any rate, WTA is *real* diplomacy of course. ; )

webDip points work the same way.

Really?!
God, I was confused.

So the only advantage of playing for more centres in PPSC is if you're planning in getting survive?

GR, misunderstood since 2008

The advantage to playing PPSC is that there is less risk. As long as you survive, you get something.

Yes, Yonni

There was discussion of a hybrid system at one point. In it, some part of the pot would be awarded for a win, with the rest split by supply center. When the discussion was going on, I advocated throwing away that part in the case of a draw, to penalize draws and encourage wins. There was talk of having that part split evenly in a draw and the rest be ppsc.

My way of dealing with PPSC, is I try to play more WTA games. PPSC kind of encourages some bad behavior

Hey Ghostmaker, thought you weren't around anymore. Good to see you..

@Tantris, I disagree.

In PPSC there are a lot of times someone will let another player win just so they can gather up more points for a strong second than they would get in a draw.

Whereas in WTA it is less likely that someone will win because that is only a good result for the winner and there is therefore a higher chance of getting a draw even if a small country.

Way back when, I feared WTA thinking it was riskier. But I found it really isn't.

The only way PPSC is less risky is in the case a game is ruined by a CD that gives someone the game.

IMHO

So, there are cases where someone can have a strong second in a large draw situation where it would actually be to they advantage to throw someone the win rather than take the draw?

The alternative to drawing and losing GR points is to cancel.

The alternative to letting a game be ruined is to play on without the quit/banned/missing player - and to take this imbalance as a factor in game which you must overcome (using diplomatic skill to counter the imbalance)

@yonni "So, there are cases where someone can have a strong second in a large draw situation where it would actually be to they advantage to throw someone the win rather than take the draw?"

Yes..

a 16 point survive is more rewarding than a 3 way draw in PPSC.

It's the fundamental "flaw" in the variant for hardcore dippers.