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Sargmacher (0 DX)
12 Feb 12 UTC
RIP Whitney Houston
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-17001548

Crazy. So sad and such a waste of talent.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
12 Feb 12 UTC
Yeah it is a waste of talent. She would have been better as an admiral, maybe a spy.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
12 Feb 12 UTC
What does RIP mean
Sargmacher (0 DX)
12 Feb 12 UTC
It's a waste of her musical/performing talent that she died relatively young.
RIP = Rest in Peace.

What do the words troll and mod mean? Can you compound them?
Sargmacher (0 DX)
12 Feb 12 UTC
Can't even pay a respect to someone on this forum without some jerk off taking the piss. Pathetic.
Maybe she was a spy. And an admiral.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
12 Feb 12 UTC
Oh Don't Worry Sargmacher I'm Sure She'll Be Fine, Being Dead.

Don't Worry I Would Never React This Way To Your Death, Since You Do Not Have A Cadre Of Enthusiasts Following You Around.

Love,
Trolod.
Sicarius (673 D)
12 Feb 12 UTC
Waste of talent? Was she secretly a world class juggler or something?
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
12 Feb 12 UTC

Sicarius, your contribution is petty and mean spirit'd ( in my opinion ).
I may have preferr'd the works of Henry Rollins & Smashin' Pumpkins
to those of Whitney Houston, but I choose to respect Whitney's success,
7 consecutive #1 hit songs in the USA, unequall'd by any other artist.

In this last week, one of my neighbours hung himself, a bloke in his 40's.

Both deaths, Reggie's and Whitney's are tragic
I make NO CLAIM that Whitney's tragic death is a suicide.

How about showing a bit more humanity Sicarius ?

Whitney Houston enjoy'd huge success, but she also endured personal troubles,
and, yes, some of those troubles were the result of her own choices / actions
but your attitude is, I think, petty and mean spirit'd.

Rather than going for a "cheap, mean & offensive joke"
why don't you think about what we as individuals can LEARN
from Whitney's life & death.

My contribution : Condolences to her family, friends and fans,
my recognition that Whitney had a great voice & talent, but also, like all of us,
was a person with human frailties & weakness.
Let's try and celebrate her life & her achievements.

taos (281 D)
12 Feb 12 UTC
is it a gay thread?
you forgot her great body
Putin33 (111 D)
12 Feb 12 UTC
A tragedy. RIP.
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
12 Feb 12 UTC

Taos, you are a dill. I never forget sex, but I don't have to constantly blab on about it.
I was trying to show some respect for Ms Houston & her fans

you want to see the pragmatical bastard side of my nature ???

these moments are when senior officers get to see which young chaps in the
Battalion should be mark'd out for promotion.

first, promotion is never decided on a single criteria, so what follows would not,
ON IT"S OWN, determine a promotion decision.

The chaps who are hanging around in the mess or barracks making offensive remarks score no "promotion points"

The young chaps who have wangled a sudden leave pass and have nipped off to
the nearest city & it's nightclubs on missions to lend aid and comfort to grieving
women have seen an opportunity, and demonstrated iniative are quietly noted.

No surprise that canny senior NCO's might head out to quietly watch the
tactical ability of the young enlisted chaps, and a Captain might be despatch'd
to observe the young officers tactical ability as well.

I should not have to "spell it out" so bluntly

Thucydides (864 D(B))
12 Feb 12 UTC
what is with the 'd instead of ed stuff from majormitchell.

i wonder'd but then i realiz'd it was probably totally inexplicable.
Putin33 (111 D)
12 Feb 12 UTC
I think that was the original purpose of the apostrophe. Seems like it's common practice in older writing, to use it to eliminate letters that were not pronounced.
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
12 Feb 12 UTC
hmm why is it when another fucktarded celebrity burns out and dies it's automatically a "tragedy." I disagree. Romeo and Juliet is a tragedy. Starving children in Africa is a tragedy. My mom wouldn't let me get my drivers license till I was 17 is a tragedy. The holocaust is a tragedy.

Yet another stupid celeb getting exactly what her lifestyle choices led her to? No, no, that is not a tragedy.
Putin33 (111 D)
12 Feb 12 UTC
What is tragic is people rationalizing their pathological lack of human empathy based on the need to justify their own sense of moral superiority because they have never suffered from addiction nor has anyone close to them suffered from addiction.

This is a tragedy because this individual had enormous potential to enrich the world even further with her art, and that voice no longer exists because of the disease of addiction.
Putin33 (111 D)
12 Feb 12 UTC
It is perhaps not surprising that the most ardent supporters of legalized drugs are the most callous when it comes to the suffering of those addicted to them.
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
12 Feb 12 UTC
So close, yet still so far again Putin. Damn man, if you just took that bit of assumption and vitriol out of your commentary you'd be a freaking genius :P Quit trying to pigeonhole those who disagree with you, and it would be very difficult indeed to argue with you.

That being said, your explanation for why this is a tragedy makes good sense. Still, I think the "don't do massive amounts of blow" lesson learned here far outweighs any benefit her art would have given the community. Might save a few kids lives :P
Putin33 (111 D)
12 Feb 12 UTC
We can't all be as morally perfect as Yellowjacket.
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
12 Feb 12 UTC
lol crossing threads, Putin? Surely if we both agree that morality is relative, we must also acknowledge that morality cannot then be perfect :P
Putin33 (111 D)
12 Feb 12 UTC
Fine, we can't all follow the particular moral rules of the social milieu we live in as well as Yellowjacket.
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
12 Feb 12 UTC
Well if you're talking about the laws of the internet, that is a statement full of truthiness.
Sicarius (673 D)
12 Feb 12 UTC
I dont see how my comment was mean spirited. I just dont think she was a waste of talent, she was a great singer and she um.... sung. and we all know about her. we're talking about her right now solely because she was talented. So I dont see how it is a waste. The waste is all the people as good as her who we dont know about. Also, and this isnt a joke, but what a fucking set of lungs she had. To sing like that, and also smoke crack and weed, then sing like that some more..... new meaning to iron lung for real
SacredDigits (102 D)
12 Feb 12 UTC
She had some mental illness beyond just the drug addictions, I actually read something...I think it was Oprah...wrote about trying to intervene for Whitney that was pretty...well, to me, eye-opening. A lot of people see someone that's admittedly taken some crack, and paint that as absolutely everything that was wrong with their lives...but oftentimes, it's something else wrong with your life that leads to the crack which then accentuates the problem, etc etc. There was a point where for almost a year Whitney refused to throw anything away, including things that were decaying like uneaten food, and that was during a period that she was clean from drugs.

Dismissing everything as "LOL crack" doesn't do any justice to a mentally ill yet talented person who was rushed into celebrity a little too early and suffered through an abusive relationship. I think people were kinder to Amy Winehouse, and that's just sad.
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
13 Feb 12 UTC
LOL crack.

That shall be added to the Webdip memes list. Those two words say it all, really.
ffeineandsugar (100 D)
13 Feb 12 UTC
LOL crack. I don't think the first has much to do with this one. The second....(sorry!)

Personally, I never cared too much for her music - it made for some gawd-awful earworms at times. Great voice, but shot to pieces by the abuse she suffered at the hands of many, especially her own. She was never able to overcome this. Tragic? I'd say pathetic, in the original meaning of the word.

Requiem aeterna dona ei, Domine, et lux perpetua luceat ei. Requisciat in pace. Amen.
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
13 Feb 12 UTC

Sicarius, I did go hard in reply to your first post,
I did in that reply comment on a neighbour, Reggie, who last week hung himself,
and say that both deaths, Reggie's and Whitney's were tragic
( and also qualified that with the assertion that I make no claim that Whitney's
death was a suicide )

I separate Whitney's talent and her death, in the sense that my opinion of
Whitney's talent is independent of the circumstances of ( & my opinion on )
her death.

I think Reggie's death was tragic, it gutted his woman, who came home to find
him dangling, and ran out screaming, I was in the street chatting to another neighbour,
Dave, and we had to respond. Not pretty & I tried the resus & CPR caper but the
ambulance guy's said we had no chance.

I had a maternal grandmother who was an army nurse and was station'd in Egypt
at the time of the Gallipoli campaign when she was a young woman. This was before
modern antibiotics such as penecillin, so all they had was the use of carbolic acid
diluted with water to keep the floors & surfaces "clean" & disinfect'd; pure alcohol to
sterilise medical instruments and morphine to ease the pain, but once gangrene or
scepticemia got going in a wound, the only option was to remove infect'd flesh with
the knife & ply the morphine & pray (in the case of gangrene)
scepticemia was basically a death sentence.

Helen had to nurse young chaps for weeks as they slowly died, read them letters from home, write letters dictated by the dying young chaps to send back to their families etc.

Helen had a saying that I will always remember, it was:
It doesn't matter who you are, rich, famous, poor,or unknown, troubles will come
to all of us, what matters is how you"deal with those troubles".
Thucydides (864 D(B))
13 Feb 12 UTC
What is tragic is the lack of some good background music to this thead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GF2IJ_ET_o
Sicarius (673 D)
13 Feb 12 UTC
I'm sorry I still dont see what was mean spirited or offensive in that thread. I mean, I COULD get really offensive, its honestly one of my favorite things to do when celebrities die, but I wasnt doing it that time. Someone said what a waste of talent, but she didnt waste it she used it. So they must be talking about some other wasted talent of hers
Putin33 (111 D)
13 Feb 12 UTC
Sic, stop being obtuse. The point about 'waste' is that her life ended too short and she could have made more songs.
Putin33 (111 D)
13 Feb 12 UTC
BTW, no talent compares to Winehouse, who was mentioned earlier. A once-in-a-generation genius.
spyman (424 D(G))
13 Feb 12 UTC
"The waste is all the people as good as her who we dont know about."

Its true there are lots of fantastically talented people who never make it. But when we are talking about talent she really was faaaaarking talented. She is not my cup of tea and i have never bought an album but she was generally esteemed as a GREAT singer. So when you say "all the people who are as good as her" its a bit like saying all the people who are as good as Roger Fedderer at Tennis. It's a pretty small list.
spyman (424 D(G))
13 Feb 12 UTC
... but yes, Sicarius, I do see what you mean. She did get to use her talent. So in that sense her talent was not wasted, it was realized in a very succesful career. The waste was not so much her talent but her happiness.
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
13 Feb 12 UTC

That's a big statement claiming that no talent compares to Amy Winehouse, Mr P.

I had this quite "off the wall" moment & thought "what if this Putin chappie is the
real deal, that it's Vladimir Putin himself ?"
That then led to the thought, "I wonder if there are any national leaders who play
Diplomacy on this website ?"

What player names would they use ???

Has any particular player dropped out since Gaddafi was shot ???
is that just co incidence, or is there more to it ????
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
14 Feb 12 UTC
Thats a silly question, Mitch, everybody knows Putin33 is waaaaay farther left than old Vladdy-boy.
I reckon Gaddafi was The Ghostmaker. RIP and a pity we'll never get another update.
Putin33 (111 D)
14 Feb 12 UTC
I'm actually Gaddafi, hanging out on St. Kitts with Tupac. Don't tell anyone.
Putin33 (111 D)
14 Feb 12 UTC
"That's a big statement claiming that no talent compares to Amy Winehouse, Mr P."

Can't find modern singers who can sing jazz like that anymore.
@Putin33: Where were you and your machete on Thursday night? Nevis police want to know.
Putin33 (111 D)
14 Feb 12 UTC
Playing diplomacy with Alexander Hamilton's relatives and discussing the finer points of the Green Book.
You should see if you can find a way to use Germany to help you.

If he gets to GAL then Turkey cannot hold VEN, for instance. And you might have a chance to keep all your armies.
Holy hell that was in the wrong place. Please ignore.


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Putin33 (111 D)
11 Feb 12 UTC
Suarez snubs Evra
Are the webdip fanboys still defending him?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qtd4j9CrHIE
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
11 Feb 12 UTC
Maldives Coup
I am posting this primarily to find out what Putin thinks. I mean, yeah, I could just go to Pravda, but I prefer to get it from the source, you know?
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Jeremiahg (100 D)
12 Feb 12 UTC
Russia
Is there a way to be a country other than russia? I just joined yesterday and all the games ive played. Im only russia,,
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
12 Feb 12 UTC
Magnavox Micromatic Cabinet Record Player
So, I bought a Magnavox Micromatic Cabinet Record Player circa 1968 at Goodwill today. I've never been a huge audiophile but this is still one of the best purchases I've ever made. I'm particularly impressed I was able to plug it in after more than 40 years and have it work right away.
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The Politician (0 DX)
13 Feb 12 UTC
Please join this game!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=80511
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LordofDoom (0 DX)
13 Feb 12 UTC
Automatic Cancel
How come games that start with less than 7 players don't automatically cancel? If 2 or more countries don't even show up in a live game why does the system allow it be voted on? It seems like the countries that can get an immediate jump have no incentive to cancel.
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flc64 (1963 D)
13 Feb 12 UTC
Mailbox symbol
Ok, I recently joined a no messaging game that had someone removed as a multi. The banner stills shows mail. How do I get that to go away?
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Geofram (130 D(B))
13 Feb 12 UTC
Super Monday Night Combat
It's TF2 + DOTA and really fun.
Trailer and Beta Sign-UP @ uberent.com
I have two invites to give out, send a steam request to sibeliusgaming
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Geofram (130 D(B))
13 Feb 12 UTC
Summer Gunboat Finalists
Really sorry guys. I'm really ill at the moment and just haven't had the energy to check WebDip. Should be shuffled and paused now.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
10 Feb 12 UTC
Facebook Parenting, Or, How His Daughter Learned to Stop Bitching and Respect Her Parents
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1ujzRidmU
I was a right shit to my parents at times at 15, especially my father, sure, who isn't as a teenaged boy...but if I'd EVER done or said what she did, I'd have been parented and HOW...and I'd NEVER post something that disrespectful on Facebook like that...but--her father works for Information Technology, and she did that and thought it was smart? Good for him, I say, good parenting...agree?
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Putin33 (111 D)
08 Feb 12 UTC
Malvinas War Part II?
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas/Latin-America-Monitor/2012/0208/Falklands-more-international-support-for-Argentina-after-militarization-claim-video

Argentina renamed their football league the Belgrano League.
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
12 Feb 12 UTC
new WTA gunboat
1000 D anti. gameID=80337
5 more
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
10 Feb 12 UTC
bye, points
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ratpfink (110 D)
12 Feb 12 UTC
need 1 more for 3 day/anon/WTA/full press game
'gameID=79976'

We set up a private game but our 7th bailed and so we need one more. '25 D' bet, 3 day deadlines, anonymous, full press and winner takes all. Reply or send me a message for the password if you're interested. Thanks!
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Philalethes (100 D(B))
12 Feb 12 UTC
Week long gunboat
Hey Russia, seven freaking days weren't enough for you to enter a set of gunboat orders?
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reads2much3 (225 D)
12 Feb 12 UTC
LIVE Game, WTA, Anon, Public messaging only
board.php?gameID=80441

cheap buy-in. 2 spots left
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Slyguy270 (527 D)
12 Feb 12 UTC
Interesting World Game
one of my favorite games ive played, tell me what you think!
gameID=75362
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Geofram (130 D(B))
06 Sep 11 UTC
**OFFICIAL - Summer Gunboat Leg Two**
Round One is over with quite a few upsets.
tinyurl.com/gunboattournament
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Alvar81 (1318 D)
12 Feb 12 UTC
OTT World Domination - Anyone wants to be the new Putin?
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=76279
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President Eden (2750 D)
12 Feb 12 UTC
Live gunboat-177 eogs
gameID=80406

post them when it finishes
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Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
11 Feb 12 UTC
Some Cool Code I found.
I wonder if its still used or if anyone recognizes it? See Below.
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uclabb (589 D)
11 Feb 12 UTC
JEREMY LIN
What. A. Boss. #linsanity
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vexlord (231 D)
09 Feb 12 UTC
new public press
gameID=80187
75 D anon PPSC
public chat requires masterful manipulation, I remember this one time i got the rest of the board to be ok with me (turk) taking tunis by accusing italy of having WMD's. good times
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
09 Feb 12 UTC
New game: WTA - 150 points - classical - full press - anonymous
More news follows
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cteno4 (100 D)
11 Feb 12 UTC
[ATLANTIC BIND] Opening for Ynglend
It starts out like this:
F EDI-NTH
A LVP-{EDI, YOR}
F LON-ENG.
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Xapi (194 D)
11 Feb 12 UTC
One more to get a WTA game started
It seems there are't many open WTA games with reasonable phase times, but I found one.

There's six of us there, one more and we'll get the party started: gameID=80037
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President Eden (2750 D)
11 Feb 12 UTC
I gave that pitch vibrato.
Pitches love vibrato.
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Favio (385 D)
10 Feb 12 UTC
EoG Blitz-55
For all who were in it. Will post my views momentarily.
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
09 Feb 12 UTC
It's difficult to say which is the coolest of the Star Trek races
Ow no it's not. The Borg are the coolest by far.
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