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manganese (100 D)
18 Aug 11 UTC
I love the retro look...
Also, I can finally tell fleets apart from armies.

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/9541/rertro.png
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gramilaj (100 D)
18 Aug 11 UTC
Chicago Tournament, Weasel Moot on September 9-10
Weasel Moot is coming up on September 9-10, and it would be great to have a strong webDiplomacy presence.
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Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
03 Aug 11 UTC
Great Articles Today
In the aftermath of the phony August 2nd deadline created by Geitner and Barack there are some absolutely excellent articles today.
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
03 Aug 11 UTC
George Will has an excellent piece on his Washington Post opinion page entitled "The debt deal and Obama’s 2012 problem."

It is one of the best pieces Will published lately and he has pumped out some great pieces.

Here is a choice quote. "......a post-mortem validates conservatives’ portrayal of Barack Obama and their dismay about the dangers and incompetence of liberalism’s legacy, the regulatory state."

And another.... "For weeks, you could not fling a brick in Washington without hitting someone with a debt-reduction plan — unless you hit Obama...."

"By affirming liberalism’s lodestar — the principle that government’s grasp on national resources must constantly increase — Obama made himself a spectator in a Washington more conservative than it was during the Reagan presidency. "

"During various liberal ascendancies, the federal spider has woven a web of dependencies. The political purpose has been to produce growing constituencies of voters disposed to vote Democratic. This disposition, a.k.a. the entitlement mentality, is triggered by making the constituencies constantly apprehensive about the security of their status as wards of government."

"The economy’s calamitous 0.8 percent growth in the first half of this year indicates that the already appalling deficit projections for coming years are much too optimistic. The debt increases caused by anemic growth and job creation may dwarf whatever debt reduction results from the process initiated by the debt-ceiling agreement. This may portend a vicious downward spiral as increased borrowing and the burden of debt service further suffocate America’s dynamism."
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
03 Aug 11 UTC
David Harsanyi of the Denver Post is one of the best opinion writers out there.
His piece today is scathing

"Terrorist analogies are welcome when democracy fails to break to the left. Republicans should never refer to the Congressional Progressive Caucus as a bunch of wealth-destroying jihadists who wear suicide vests packed with prosperity-killing stimulus plans. That kind of overheated hyperbole would be catastrophic, leading to violence and/or another alarmist Diane Sawyer television special."

"This small group of terrorists," Mike Doyle explained, "have made it impossible to spend any money." Well, damn near impossible. Washington will have to squeeze by on $43,900,000,000,000 over the next decade while wrestling with real cuts that are likely to rise to zero -- or maybe less. If we can't spend money, who are we as a people?

For a while, at least, those who claim that bankruptcy spending and bullet trains create jobs -- no matter how regularly the media offer these myths as fact -- can't be taken seriously.
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
03 Aug 11 UTC
Charles Lane on the Post opinion page as well.

..... liberals are in deep, deep denial about their own incivility issues.

o pick just one example of the genre, today’s New York Times carries Joe Nocera’s column, “Tea Party’s War Against America.”

According to Nocera, President Obama’s debt-ceiling deal with the Republicans violated a basic rule: “Never negotiate with terrorists. It only encourages them.” He adds: “Much of the country has watched in horror as the Tea Party Republicans have waged jihad on the American people.” These “intransigent” spending cutters were indifferent to “blowing up the country” in pursuit of their goals. They are indifferent to “inflicting more pain on their countrymen” via “the terrible toll $2.4 trillion in cuts will take on the poor and the middle class” and the extra unemployment it will bring.

The Times editorial board only recently condemned “many on the right” for “exploit[ing] the arguments of division,” and “demonizing immigrants, or welfare recipients, or bureaucrats.” Right-wingers, The Times notes, “seem to have persuaded many Americans that the government is not just misguided, but the enemy of the people.”

So how can it be okay for Times columnists to demonize the Tea Party and try to persuade Americans that they are not just misguided, but the enemies of the people?

.....any serious debt solution is going to be painful for a lot of people, when and if we get around to enacting one.

.....that between now and October 2012, it will reduce federal outlays by $25 billion, according to the Congressional Budget Office. Given federal spending of more than $3.8 trillion, that is a rounding error — not “blowing up the country.”
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
03 Aug 11 UTC
Major Garrett did an excellent piece in the Atlantic.

5 Ways the Debt Crisis Changed Washington
I don't even know how you're saying Geitner and Obama caused this problem, when its the Republican's fault! This issue wants me to actually become a Democrat, because they had the sense to give in and not let the Republican Tea-party members ruin this country.

But both sides did blow the whole deal out of proportion, really. I mean, come on, Reagan raised it like 18 times in his presidency without a fuss.
fully convinced that the "Think Tank" Tettleton works at bases its long term strategy on reaching the 200 people on this site.
Oh, so is that what he does? lol. I've been trying to get his occupation and educational background out of him for the better part of a month
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
03 Aug 11 UTC
Excellent piece in the Wall Street Journal by James Taranto.
'Civility': The Denouement-The liberal elite grows even angrier and more desperate.

What a passage here by James- Wow!!!

"Obama's failure is the failure of the liberal elite, and that is why their ressentiment has reached such intensity. Their ideas, such as they are, are being put to a real-world test and found severely wanting. As a result, their authority is collapsing. And if there is one thing they know deep in their bones, it is that they are entitled to that authority. They lash out, desperately and pathetically, because they have nothing to offer but fear and anger."

Babak (26982 D(B))
04 Aug 11 UTC
Tet... you strike me as the perfect republican. talking to yourself in a bubble of your own creation and calling it enlightened conversation.

good luck with life bro.

but please take your crap and either shove it into just ONE thread so the rest of us dont have to waste our time with it, or go talk to the many echo chambers that will readily eat your crap analysis from crap analysts.

at the very least, respect the community you have joined... STOP CREATING SO MANY IDIOTIC THREADS!!!
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
06 Aug 11 UTC
Caroline Baum has an excellent article at Bloomberg entitled Decade of Stimulus Yields Nothing but Debt:

"In January 2001, total U.S. debt stood at $5.95 trillion. Last week it was $14.3 trillion, with $2.4 trillion freshly authorized by Congress Tuesday.
Ten years and $8.35 trillion later, what do we have to show for this decade of deficit spending? A glut of unoccupied homes, unemployment exceeding 9 percent, a stalled economy and a huge mountain of debt. Real gross domestic product growth averaged 1.6 percent from the first quarter of 2001 through the second quarter of 2011.
It doesn’t sound like a very good trade-off. And now Keynesians are whining about discretionary spending cuts of $21 billion next year? That’s one-half of one percent. And it qualifies as a “cut” only in the fanciful world of government accounting."
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
06 Aug 11 UTC
Larry Kudlow should be the head of the CEA.
From his article today "Earlier this week, when he signed the debt-ceiling bill, the president ranted on about the need to raise tax rates on successful earners, investors and small businesses. He's trying to bring back tax hikes as part of the phase-two special committee seeking additional deficit reduction, even though his own party rebuffed him on this in the late stages of the debt talks. All this is a prescription to grow government, not the economy.

What the economy needs, Mr. President, is a strong dose of new incentives, with pro-growth tax reform that flattens marginal rates and broadens the base for individuals and businesses. This includes moving to territorial taxation that ends the double tax on foreign earnings of U.S. companies. Plus, we desperately need a complete moratorium on federal regulations. As Sen. Barrasso recently noted, the government put out 379 new rules on business in July alone, amounting to $9.5 billion in additional costs."

Thanks for putting it in print Larry.

Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
06 Aug 11 UTC
Holman Jenkins Jr. hits the nail on the head in his Wall Street Journal article today entitled "Obama vs the 1980's.

Instead of a "stimulus" to create jobs by financing useful investments that would have paid a growth dividend in the future, we got a debt-fueled permanent expansion of entitlements and the size of government.
In health care, instead of reforms to encourage competent consumers not to treat health care as a free lunch, we got a doubling down on health-care free lunchism.

In banking, instead of new incentives to cause creditors to pull in the reins on risk-taking banks, we got a formalization of too big to fail.

Almost everything Mr. Obama understands as pro-growth consists of bets on "bureaucrats and the people who make a living on control and planning."
Thucydides (864 D(B))
06 Aug 11 UTC
dude i think tettleton is a bot.

a GOPbot
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
07 Aug 11 UTC
Jeff Cox at CNBC in his article "Beneath Jobs Report Surface Lie Some Ugly Truths" had this startling revelation.

"The average duration of unemployment rose for the third straight month and is now at a record 40.4 weeks—about 10 months and now double where it was when President Obama took office in January 2009. The total number unemployed for more than half a year now stands at 6.18 million, 130 percent higher than when the president’s term began."
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
08 Aug 11 UTC
Michael Barone published an excellent article today, "Americans want earned success."

"Government works for the irresponsible, not the responsible."

".... majorities continue to oppose the Obama Democrats' stimulus package and Obamacare. Democratic elites thought these laws would be seen as helping ordinary people. But they aren't. They are seen as special interest legislation that helps politically favored constituencies."

"But ordinary Americans don't want money as much as they want honor. They want what the chance to achieve what American Enterprise Institute President Arthur Brooks calls "earned success."

"Saving enough for a 20 percent down payment was difficult for young homebuyers. But once they did so, meeting the monthly payment was easier, and any temporary drop in home prices didn't wipe out their equity. When home prices increased over the years, they had reason to believe they had earned their success."

"The progressive ideal of administrative cadres leading the masses toward the light has its roots in a time when many Americans had an eighth-grade education or less,,,that is still the mindset of the Obama Democrats. Ordinary people are treated as victims who need government programs like Obamacare to help them out."

"They want public policies that enable them to earn success, and they resent policies that channel money to the politically well positioned or to those who have not made decisions and taken actions necessary for earned success. They want to be empowered, not patronized."
Blank published an excellent article today, not because it was well reasoned or insightful but because I agree with it, and therefore it is both well reasoned and insightful. Posting this for you all allows me to continue the charade in which I pretend that I am truly an intellectual (albeit with a rough masculine exterior).
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
09 Aug 11 UTC
The City Journal published a great article on my hometown, Los Angeles.

" As of March, the unemployment rate was over 12 percent in the county, while in the entire L.A. metropolitan area, which includes adjacent Orange County, it was 11.4 percent—the third-highest unemployment rate of the nation’s 20 largest metro areas."

"If you look at the nation’s largest 52 metropolitan areas and the percentages by which their populations of college graduates grew between 2007 and 2009, you’ll find that L.A. ranks just 37th."

"Back in 1990, 13 percent of employed Angelenos worked for the government; by 2008, that figure had jumped to 16 percent. Even after a deep recession, the public sector—both county and city—continues to pull in big payouts. Today, almost 18,000 county workers earn more than $100,000 annually. The city has followed a similar path, with its city council the highest-paid in the nation. In L.A., as in much of California, public employees’ pensions have risen at unsustainable rates."

So if the Big Government idiots are right Los Angeles should be booming. Government employment has skyrocketed while private sector employment has plummeted.

The problem is the devastation of LA's economy destroys the "public sector good-private sector bad" argument.


Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
11 Aug 11 UTC
Theodore Dalrymple wrote a scathing critique on the causes of the riots in Britain.
The author is British from Birmingham.

http://www.city-journal.org/2011/eon0810td.html

The riots are the apotheosis of the welfare state and popular culture in their British form. A population thinks (because it has often been told so by intellectuals and the political class) that it is entitled to a high standard of consumption, irrespective of its personal efforts; and therefore it regards the fact that it does not receive that high standard, by comparison with the rest of society, as a sign of injustice. It believes itself deprived (because it has often been told so by intellectuals and the political class), even though each member of it has received an education costing $80,000, toward which neither he nor—quite likely—any member of his family has made much of a contribution; indeed, he may well have lived his entire life at others’ expense, such that every mouthful of food he has ever eaten, every shirt he has ever worn, every television he has ever watched, has been provided by others. Even if he were to recognize this, he would not be grateful, for dependency does not promote gratitude. On the contrary, he would simply feel that the subventions were not sufficient to allow him to live as he would have liked.

At the same time, his expensive education will have equipped him for nothing. His labor, even supposing that he were inclined to work, would not be worth its cost to any employer—partly because of the social charges necessary to keep others such as he in a state of permanent idleness, and partly because of his own characteristics. And so unskilled labor is performed in England by foreigners, while an indigenous class of permanently unemployed is subsidized.
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
11 Aug 11 UTC
Shaun Bailey in the Guardian sounded off about the connection between entitlement culture and the riots.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/10/riots-without-responsibility

"The liberal intelligentsia encouraged posh kids to protest and riot over student fees – and now poorer kids have joined in and we are all appalled. How can you complain when you supported such activism only a few months ago?

In a way, we are all responsible for the riots, whether directly or indirectly. We watched the previous government talk up rights for young people but with no mention of responsibilities. We have allowed our welfare system to prop up immoral lifestyles. We have not taught all our young people that an entitlement culture is morally wrong. And we have paid the price for this liberalism. Now we need to collectively grow up and take responsibility for responsibility."

You would think twice about burning a car if you owned one that you saved up to purchase.
You would think twice about looting a store if you worked in one or your family survived by owning one.
People need jobs not worthless government handouts. You destroy jobs when you tax and distribute handouts through a grossly bloated and inefficient bureaucracy.
Big government is not the answer it is a huge part of the problem.
Yonni (136 D(S))
11 Aug 11 UTC
I appreciate that you have now limited your postings to one thread.
It doesn't clutter the forum and actually leads to me reading more of your posts.
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
12 Aug 11 UTC
Actually I haven't, but as always whatever floats your boat Yonni.
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
12 Aug 11 UTC
Appeals court rules against Obama healthcare mandate
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/12/us-usa-healthcare-idUSTRE77B4J320110812

The Appeals Court for the 11th Circuit, based in Atlanta, found that Congress exceeded its authority by requiring Americans to buy coverage.
"This economic mandate represents a wholly novel and potentially unbounded assertion of congressional authority: the ability to compel Americans to purchase an expensive health insurance product they have elected not to buy, and to make them re-purchase that insurance product every month for their entire lives," the majority said in its opinion.

That opinion was jointly written by Judges Joel Dubina, who was appointed to the appeals court by Republican President George H.W. Bush, and by Frank Hull, who was appointed by President Bill Clinton, a Democrat.
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
15 Aug 11 UTC
Obama's latest approval-disapproval poll is available at Rasmussen Reports.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Obama is at a -22 comparing those who strongly disapprove of his handling of the nation with those that strongly approve.

42% of American strongly disapprove of Obama as President.
That's getting into Jimmy Carter territory, but not quite there yet.
Just give Barack time.
He has less economic sense than Carter by far.
Remember that Jimmy deregulated the airline industry and appointed Volcker Chairman of the Fed at least.
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
15 Aug 11 UTC
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903918104576504033881168802.html
All the young rioters will have had long experience with the justice system's efforts to confer impunity upon law breakers

"We're fed up with being broke," one rioter was reported as having said, as if having enough money to satisfy one's desires were a human right rather than something to be earned.

"There are people here with nothing," this rioter continued: nothing, that is, except an education that has cost $80,000, a roof over their head, clothes on their back and shoes on their feet, food in their stomachs, a cellphone, a flat-screen TV, a refrigerator, an electric stove, heating and lighting, hot and cold running water, a guaranteed income, free medical care, and all of the same for any of the children that they might care to propagate.

But while the rioters have been maintained in a condition of near-permanent unemployment by government subvention augmented by criminal activity, Britain was importing labor to man its service industries. You can travel up and down the country and you can be sure that all the decent hotels and restaurants will be manned overwhelmingly by young foreigners; not a young Briton in sight (thank God).

The reason for this is clear: The young unemployed Britons not only have the wrong attitude to work, for example regarding fixed hours as a form of oppression, but they are also dramatically badly educated. Within six months of arrival in the country, the average young Pole speaks better, more cultivated English than they do.

What a sad pathetic commentary on British society.
Thanks be to George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, et al. for severing our link to that corrupt society.
ulytau (541 D)
15 Aug 11 UTC
Stop fooling around, unmute obi, join his game, then mute him again.
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
15 Aug 11 UTC
Obama begins political counteroffensive this week
That's the title of a Yahoo News Story, and it exemplifies what is wrong with President Obama.
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-begins-political-counteroffensive-week-122408046.html

He has been in office since January 2009, and he is more worried about politics and reelection than providing leadership and solutions for the most pressing problem in America, job creation.

This is exactly why Obama is going to be the first incumbent Democrat to lose an election since Jimmy Carter in 1980.
1980 was the first election Obama voted in too.
It shows he didn't learn anything from history.
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
16 Aug 11 UTC
The President vs the Job Creators
Excellent piece in the Orange County Register
http://articles.ocregister.com/2011-08-12/news/29887547_1_ceos-job-creation-steve-wynn

three major business leaders spoke out against the Obama administration: Bernie Marcus, the co-founder of Home Depot; Andy Puzder, CEO of CKE Restaurants (parent of Carl's Jr. and Hardee's); and casino tycoon Steve Wynn, CEO of Wynn Resorts. They contend that President Obama has strangled the economy and hamstrung job growth in the country. As Puzder told me directly, businesses in the country "are being actually prevented" from creating jobs because of the administration.

During a well-publicized company conference call last month, Wynn, a self-described Democrat and supporter of fellow Nevadan Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, told listeners, "This administration is the greatest wet blanket to business, and progress and job creation in my lifetime." He added that businesses "are frightened to death about all the new regulations," singling out Obamacare as a major challenge for companies. Fear of the administration, he said, "makes you slow down and not invest your money."

Can you imagine the sound bites from these businessmen in campaign adds portraying Obama as the job destroyer in the 2012 campaign.

Obama chose Obamacare over job creation and it is going to make him a one-term president.
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
16 Aug 11 UTC
Michael Barone has an excellent piece in the Wall Street Journal.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903392904576509992605316426.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

He talks about the two different economic models that developed in the Midwest states after WWII.
One was the Michigan model, which prevailed in the industrial Midwest and the factory towns of the Great Plains. The other was the Texas model, which prevailed in most of the South and Southwest.

The Texas model stressed right to work laws that kept big unions from dominating and limited state government that left counties and municipalities free to run much of their own affairs.

The Michigan model was based on the Progressive/New Deal assumption that, after the transition from farm to factory, the best way to secure growth was through big companies and big labor unions.
Liberals assumed the Michigan model was the wave of the future, and that in time—once someone built big factories and unions organized them—backward states like Texas would catch up.

History hasn't worked out that way. In 1970, Michigan had nine million people. In 2010, it had 10 million. In 1970, Texas had 11 million people. In 2010, it had 25 million. In 1970, Detroit was the nation's fifth-largest metro area. Today, metro Houston and the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex are both pressing the San Francisco Bay area for the No. 4 spot, and Detroit is far behind.
gramilaj (100 D)
16 Aug 11 UTC
Following that same line of reasoning, we have a big government, and have the third most populous country. Big government is justified by the fact that we have a lot of people here..
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
16 Aug 11 UTC
Gram, you have to improve your reading comprehension.

Big government Michigan went from 9 Million people to 10 million people in the last 30 years.
Decentralized Government in Texas went from 11 million people to 25 million people in the last 30 years.

That evidence demolishes the hollow argument that Big government is either justified or necessary with population increase.

You'll need laser surgery to remove the word "clueless" that is tattooed on your forehead.
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
17 Aug 11 UTC
David Harsanyi of the Denver Post had a jewel.
The Obama administration is finally going to focus on jobs -- again. Jobs, jobs, jobs. And nothing says jobs like food stamps, unemployment insurance and a shiny new federal department of ... yes, jobs!

If it weren't for Japanese earthquakes, unpatriotic Republicans, Arab springs, European welfare states collapsing, market fluctuations, Lady Luck's being a complete witch -- you know, existence -- this mess could have been squared away months ago.

Food stamps. The administration's announcement was to tout a new program expanding "economic stimulus" through food stamps. An idea Americans had "never" heard ... this week. Then again, considering the nation is awash in food stamps, this must portend a colossal recovery. So that's certainly good news.

At a Minnesota town hall, for instance, the president offered this gem: "You can't just make money on SUVs and trucks. There is a place for SUVs and trucks, but as gas prices keep on going up, you have got to understand the market."

If only the common man had such insight into markets. Earlier this month, Ford reported that sport utility vehicle sales had increased 31 percent (car sales improved 3.4 percent) from a year earlier. General Motors also "bounced back" on the strength of its worldwide SUV sales. Who knows? If this administration didn't harbor resentment toward useful and affordable energy, Ford could sell even more SUVs.

Now, considering the failure of Washington to help shake off this prolonged slump, it is no surprise that a recent Washington Post poll found that 73 percent of Americans -- up from 52 percent last year and 41 percent a decade ago -- doubt the ability of government to solve the nation's economic problems.
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
17 Aug 11 UTC
Boston Globe.com
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2011/08/17/making_washington_inconsequential/

Governor Rick Perry, the next President of the United States was able to say in one sentence what will cure America of most of its problems.

“I’ll work every day to try to make Washington, DC, as inconsequential in your life as I can.’’

The herald then went on to translate what this means

"To a Democrat steeped in the big-government tradition of the New Deal and the Great Society, there could hardly be a greater heresy.

For liberals, perhaps the only thing more absurd and disagreeable than the prospect of a Washington with radically reduced influence in American life is a presidential candidate pledging to make that reduction a priority."

Thank you for entering the race Governor Perry.
Not just drop your stance against abortion.
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
17 Aug 11 UTC
Speaking of echo chambers.

A majority of Americans now see the main stream liberal press as simply cheerleaders for Democratic candidates and have tuned them out.

Walter Russell Mead writes an excellent piece about how this hurts Democratic candidates.
http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2011/08/16/blue-partisans-shorten-the-lines/

More hostile media scrutiny would have convinced Senator John Kerry that his Vietnam record could not anchor his presidential campaign. It would have made then Vice President Gore much more aware of what a liability it is that so many voters heard him as condescending and elitist. It would have alerted President Obama to the critical flaws in the congressional porkfest loosely but inaccurately referred to as a ‘stimulus package’. It would have let the greens know that their carbon treaty concept was an obvious flop before they wasted precious time and money on a decade long unicorn hunt.
Over and over again in modern American politics, liberals have developed “frames” and strategies for key issues that they think will shift the debate their way. Over and over again the echo chamber of the liberal press resounds with praises of the new approach. And over and over again liberals “unexpectedly” get sucker punched by conservative counter attacks a more critical press would have forecast as both inevitable and deadly.
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
18 Aug 11 UTC
Excellent article for all the fools who claim solar is cost efficient.
http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2011/08/oregons_largest_solar_project.html

"Without the tax credits, the economics of commercial solar projects don't work, for electricity buyers or investors who underwrite the projects."

yebellz (729 D(G))
18 Aug 11 UTC
Tettleton,

Why did you choose this forum to express your political opinions? This is a gaming website. Lengthy political discussion seems as out of place as if this was a forum discussing chess, stratego, or parcheesi. You're not really reaching that big of an audience either. Most people are just here to play a game and ignore your posts. Many others see posts like this and think, wow, just more conservative lies and BS, or who is this idiot spamming the forum. Have you heard of the saying, "The most effective way to undermine a political party is to join it and zealously defend it's ideals?" Wait, is that your intention all along?? Are you a "Deep Cover Liberal"
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Deep_cover_liberal

Well, anyways, your political posts would probably be more effective on a different site, like say, any of the many, many political discussions forums on the web.

I'm still not convinced that many of your posts aren't just generated by a bot.
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
18 Aug 11 UTC
Yebellz, basically because marxists post their totally fabricated BS on here.
You can relieve yourself of all my posts and threads with the mute button.
As far as "Chess" the name of the game is diplomacy.
I came to this site three months ago and read endless marxist, liberal, socialist, left-wing BS. I don't put up with that anywhere I go because marxist, liberal, socialist, left wing BS has caused so much misery and suffering in my lifetime.
I'll pay you the compliment of candor and say that as far as undermining a political party I don't really think you know the first thing about it if you are insinuating that my posts on this board to this band of left-wing big government nutjobs has any national repercussions.
You seem rather mentally handicapped if you can't tell bot posts on the internet.

Thanks for the heads up.
yebellz (729 D(G))
18 Aug 11 UTC
Hi Tettleton,

Look, I fully acknowledge your right to express your opinions, even if I don't agree with them. I find the endless political discussion from the other end of the spectrum just as annoying. I think all political discussion on this forum is out of place. Please don't think I'm singling you out for any personal or idealogical reasons, it's just that seem to be the one posting political stuff the most frequently in recent times.

Look, all I'm saying is that I don't think you're being very effective. Most people here just ignore the political crap that flies around this forum. Adding to that noise doesn't help and ultimately, it's not really reaching that many people except for "the choir", so to speak.

Calling you a "deep cover liberal" was a bit tongue-in-cheek. I'm certainly NOT insinuating that your posts will have any nation repercussions. In fact, I'm saying quite the opposite, that your posts will have minimal effect if any at all, except for the annoyance that it's inflicting upon our community.

I never thought that you were %100 bot. Clearly your conversational and response posts are obviously written by a human. However, the sheer volume of posts of the form: article link + short summary, would suggest either an automated bot or just someone with a lot ... let's say "dedication". You should take it as a compliment.
gramilaj (100 D)
18 Aug 11 UTC
Speaking of echo chambers.
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
18 Aug 11 UTC
Yebellz, you bore me.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
19 Aug 11 UTC
"I never thought that you were %100 bot. Clearly your conversational and response posts are obviously written by a human."

wait, haven't you seen what the IBM machine 'watson' can do?

i'm pretty sure this is a social experiment being run by some kind of political advocacy group... i have yet to figure out which one TC represents.
yebellz (729 D(G))
19 Aug 11 UTC
@orathic: social experiment? why would they choose such an obscure website like this?

also, their methodology would be kind of silly: post a bunch of articles, follow with hostile response
pjmansfield99 (100 D)
19 Aug 11 UTC
I know that I must represent the worst possible case of trying to enter a debate with TC but here goes my third attempt - if it was a phony Aug 2nd deadline why did S & P reduce the US credit rating?

Again I don't agree with their arguments, I think the motivation was flawed and certain aspects of their math was slightly dodgy, however I'm interested in what TC says....
orathaic (1009 D(B))
19 Aug 11 UTC
@yellezbells:

well they wouldn't want to get caught experimenting on some less obscure part of the internet incase word gets out.

Especially when, as you pointed out, their methodology is clearly in need of some work...

they need to tweak the anger in the responses to gain the greatest anti-retort, without being ignored completely... i think the point is to get people to vehemently disagree with the bot to the point where they believe something so completely opposite that the view the bot is spouting has become discredited...
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
19 Aug 11 UTC
I'm unfamiliar completely with Standard and Poor's downgrading math.

August the 2nd is important to this thread because the Obama administration predicted doomsday would occur if the budget deal wasn't in place by August 2nd.
This prediction is what caused Obama and the Democrats in Congress to cave in.
They knew that there prediction was totally inaccurate and if they let August 2nd come and go and doomsday did not occur then the Obama administration would lose all of its credibility whatsoever.

The fact that the United States had defaulted on treasury bond payments three weeks in a row in April and May 1979 and doomsday did not come.

That's the importance of August 2nd.

If you really want to know something funny the Chinese credit rating agency, Dagong Global Credit Rating Co., one of the few large non-US based credit rating agencies, announced it has downgraded the U.S.'s credit rating for the second time in under a year.

Here is a link to an article on the story.

http://inventorspot.com/articles/us_credit_rating_downgraded_again_chinese_credit_rating_agency

PJ, I do research for a living. When I give research to my partner to present it has to be right and accurate or we lose a client and our reputation.
You can spot all the unsubstantiated opinions you want, but when you post factual inaccuracies on a topic I've researched I will eat you for lunch and spit you out.



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Conservative Man (100 D)
18 Aug 11 UTC
KRELLIN
The grown-up bully. See inside.
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Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
17 Aug 11 UTC
Is Playing Diplomacy a "Right?"
How many teenagers and twenty-somethings fritter away their days playing diplomacy instead of making sure they get an education or aren't a burden on society?
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King Atom (100 D)
18 Aug 11 UTC
Fire!
Just that.
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spyman (424 D(G))
17 Aug 11 UTC
Why is America in so much debt?
The size of America's debt is staggering and it is really hard to imagine it ever being paid off and the long term negative consequences are very worrying. How did a country run by smart people allow itself to get into this awful predicament?
97 replies
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
15 Aug 11 UTC
variant idea
Has this been tried before?

So I'm thinking of attempting to design some kind of randomly generated map to stir things up and avoid the same old alliances and same old outcomes. Would the community be interested in something like this? Would the powers that be support it if I was able to develop a good one?
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yebellz (729 D(G))
18 Aug 11 UTC
How to find your "Mute List"
Want to see a list of who you have muted (both in game or globally)? See inside for instructions.
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King Atom (100 D)
17 Aug 11 UTC
Going Out With A Bang!
Like I said before, I'm leaving soon, so I'd like to have one last forum in which to annoy the hell out of you all. Simply put, I'm inviting all my friends to come and bitch before me. (friends meaning those of you on my lists)
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Hugo_Stiglitz (100 D)
18 Aug 11 UTC
CALLING ALL FORUM FIREBRANDS
@TC, CM, Krellin, First Apple.....or anybody else who argues in the threads
24 replies
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yebellz (729 D(G))
17 Aug 11 UTC
Flag of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire?
Is anyone here knowledgeable on Austrian-Hungarian history? What would be the appropriate flag to represent the Austrian-Hungarian Empire in the context of the historical period related to the game of Diplomacy?
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Yonni (136 D(S))
17 Aug 11 UTC
Life without parole for an ounce of coke and 3 joints
Just wondering what the community's reaction to a sentence like this would be?
http://www.alternet.org/rights/152038/how_3_joints_and_an_ounce_of_coke_got_an_oklahoma_grandfather_life_without_parole_/?page=1
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ninjaruler (101 D)
17 Aug 11 UTC
No Message-Global Message
HEY! So I am in gameID=64922 its no messaging whatsoever but I have a global message to look at, I assume it is something about a multi getting kicked but I can't read it to get the little message at the top to go away, so how do I get it to go away?
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Draugnar (0 DX)
12 Aug 11 UTC
Abgemacht is an asshat fucktard.
He is the worst mod fucking damaging the community by insisting on bumping a post to the top that insults graphically and abusively another player in the opening message. Let's see how the fucktard likes this post staying at the top!
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
16 Aug 11 UTC
Stop Coddling the Super-Rich: NYT op-ed by Warren Buffett
Read: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/stop-coddling-the-super-rich.html?_r=4&ref=opinion
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fortknox (2059 D)
16 Aug 11 UTC
Mod Email, unpausing, etc...
I had to get a cervical epidural (that'd be in the neck) yesterday that put me out of order for a bit, so I'm behind in the mod email list, but I'll get to it later today. Thanks for your patience.
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FirstApple (100 D(B))
17 Aug 11 UTC
Why is the colonial variant disabled?
I noticed that there are four other variants that are on the server yet are disabled. What is the purpose of this? Wouldn't more variants mean more gameplay for the members here? I know I'm new here so if there was a good reason before I left, I'm interested in hearing about it.
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King Atom (100 D)
16 Aug 11 UTC
Sort of a Goodbye
School will be starting soon, so I'll have trouble keeping up with all of my games. I will definitely be taking a break, so you might not see me again until December. By then, I'm sure I'll have several new people to argue with in the forums and quite a few of you will have forgotten about me. But that's great! Wouldn't it be nice to have some worshippers on WebDiplomacy? That way I'd win every game!
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Draugnar (0 DX)
16 Aug 11 UTC
I need cheering up... :-(
I'm sitting here unable to focus on work and contemplating why I even bother sometimes...
53 replies
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Conservative Man (100 D)
09 Aug 11 UTC
Am I being naive here?
I never understand why people would ever want to have one-night stands/casual hookups. If you're attracted to someone enough to fuck them, why wouldn't you want to date them? I mean, I'm sure sex is fun, but wouldn't a relationship+sex be even more fun?
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
09 Aug 11 UTC
Recruiting for a new game
101-200 D | WTA | 1.5 - 2 day phases | anon / non anon | classic
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
17 Aug 11 UTC
Portland, OR
Had some time to explore Portland, OR today. It was really nice. Clean, not congested, I never had to wait to cross the street. Overall, a much "happier" city than Boston. Oh, and a cute chick was dancing around flashing people, so no complaints there.
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pjmansfield99 (100 D)
17 Aug 11 UTC
The Troll Hunter
Just saw a trailer for this film at the cinema and made me chuckle - so appropriate!! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1740707/ Pj
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Draugnar (0 DX)
16 Aug 11 UTC
This time on Philosophy Weekly...
Is hellalt dipshit #1? Or is he dipshit #2? And is he full of #2?

:-)
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
09 Aug 11 UTC
England's Riots
Does anyone oever there--or over here, for that matter--know what's going on, ie, why these folks are rioting?

All I get in searching for it are notifications about England's...cricket team...? And a friendly? Is that it, is this all one big "soccer riot," so to speak, or has Yahoo's serach engine failed once again, and there are real, important reasons behind all this?
166 replies
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King Atom (100 D)
16 Aug 11 UTC
Word Association Thread
I literally joined the day the last one ended, so I would like to start another. For those of you who don't know, just write a word and then you write the first word that comes to your head.
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Sydney City (0 DX)
16 Aug 11 UTC
Unpause game PLEASE
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=64619#gamePanel
This has Been emailed to mods- but no reply
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King Atom (100 D)
16 Aug 11 UTC
Raise Your Hand if You Don't Know Me!
I'm pretty sure that very few of you would raise your hand, but I'd just like to clarify: Nobody here actually knows me.
SO QUIT ACTING LIKE YOU DO!
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Conservative Man (100 D)
16 Aug 11 UTC
School started today......
This year is gonna be really fucking hard. But it's worth it.
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