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Frank (100 D)
18 Nov 10 UTC
computer programming
how should i start?
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gman314 (100 D)
29 Aug 10 UTC
Diplomatically challenged league
DCL beginning soon. Details inside.
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mcbry (439 D)
22 Nov 10 UTC
Slow and Steady (3day-turns, WTA, 50 pts)
This will be my first game start here, if I can actually get it started. I realize 3-day turns are a bit slow for you serious addicts, but think of all the chatting and intrigue you can get done!
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canaduh (1324 D)
20 Nov 10 UTC
Parameter 'fromTerrID' set to invalid value '3'.
What does this mean,anyone?
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P8er Jackson (0 DX)
22 Nov 10 UTC
pls join lets have a great game!
gameID=42316

I WANT TO PLAY
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bhosp (352 D)
22 Nov 10 UTC
Game needs an Austria
gameID=42274

Situation isn't too bad yet.
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Baskineli (100 D(B))
22 Nov 10 UTC
Paying someone to stab
In a game I played (gameID=38537), after a lot of profanity, Russia offered everybody else on the global to stab me for money. Nobody has taken him seriously (I hope - although I was the last player to be eliminated by a 2-way draw), but this really bothers me. How would you react? What do you think about this act?
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P8er Jackson (0 DX)
22 Nov 10 UTC
great game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=42316
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Bob Genghiskhan (1233 D)
22 Nov 10 UTC
EOG Statement from Gunning for you 2.
In which I air my grievances, and invite anyone else to air theirs. Scheduled for as soon as the game ends.
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
18 Nov 10 UTC
Wow
They weren't joking when they're talking about how... thorough the new patdowns are. I've had foreplay that didn't touch that much of me so.... firmly
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dave bishop (4694 D)
21 Nov 10 UTC
"This House Would Ban Music that Glorifies Violence"
I have to debate this motion on Thursday. I don't know until 15 minutes before hand which side I'll have to argue though.
If anyone has an ideas/arguments for either side then, I'd really appreciate some help!!
omgwhathappened (0 D)
21 Nov 10 UTC
the american national anthem glorifies war and violence. ban that first.
scagga (1810 D)
21 Nov 10 UTC
The French National Anthem is a war song, too.
Ivo_ivanov (7545 D)
21 Nov 10 UTC
They don't glorify violence, they glorify patriotism, courage, the fight for freedom, etc.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
21 Nov 10 UTC
but what about gangta rap?

that shit is legit!
Thucydides (864 D(B))
21 Nov 10 UTC
french natl anthem has a line like this (paraphrasing):

"let your faces be streaked with the blood of half-breeeeeeeds!"

if that doesnt glorify violence then neither does The Chronic.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
21 Nov 10 UTC
Cambridge Union?

Against the Motion:

Freedom of expression is a human right
A ban would not prevent this kind of music from being made and distributed, it would in fact make it stronger (forbidden fruit)
The music doesn't encourage violence- banning it is targeting a symptom not a cause.

For the Motion:

We maintain freedom of speech because of the benefits that result from it, not for any innate benefit. Indeed we have hate speech and incitement to racial violence laws already in this country.
The causes of violence are the culture that you are living in, which the music has a big influence on. The music changes peoples view of street crime and gangs by presenting it in a positive light.
Even if a ban were slightly effective, that is better than nothing.
Isn't patriotism more or less violence sanctioned by the tribe?
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
21 Nov 10 UTC
patriotism is just love of your country, so no. ^
Maniac (184 D(B))
21 Nov 10 UTC
Ridicule is often a good tactic, if you get on the correct side of the argument pretend to have an advanced copy of Emimen's new CD and list the following tracks stating such material sould be banned.

"Stand Up for Jesus, Ye Soldiers of the Cross",
"Soldiers of Christ Arise"
"Fight the Good Fight"
"Onward Christian Soldiers"

If you happen to be on the other side of the argument just make up some stuff about 37% of all murders who responded to a recent survey said they were influenced by gangsta music, it doesn't matter that is not true, facts always go out of the window when such matters are discussed.

Good luck, let us know how it goes.
@TGM

Yes, yes, I am aware that's what it is in theory, but in practice, it's love of your country in comparison with others. Down that road lies Dachau or Da Nang. Admittedly, it's quite a ways down that road. But the point remains: patriotism frequently manifests as violence toward foreigners.
dave bishop (4694 D)
21 Nov 10 UTC
thanks for the advice guys, keep it coming!!
Can a valid argument be made out of the fact that black rappers will suffer the most from this legislation?

@TGM, yes it is Cambridge Union! Did you do it 'back in the day'?
"A ban would not prevent this kind of music from being made and distributed, it would in fact make it stronger (forbidden fruit)"

But if you ban the selling of the music through record companies and on iTunes then producers of the music lose incentive to produce music with violent lyrics, so very little is produced. It also stops youth, new listeners from listening, the most susceptible sector of the audience to its messages.
figlesquidge (2131 D)
22 Nov 10 UTC
@dave - 'back in the day'? How old do you think Ghost is!?
Unfortunately for me, this is the sort of policy that could get enacted at my university.

Anyway, to try and be constructive and on topic: Banning something leads to a backlash. If violent songs become illegal then listening to them will become cool. Not quite sure where that leads to (you could use a bit of hand waving to turn that either way) but its another entrance at least. Perhaps if you're for the ban, having something like this banned would make that the rebellious protest of choice, rather than a more sinister alternative.


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Rommeltastic (1111 D(B))
20 Nov 10 UTC
Stabbed Woes
What is your best method to relieve stress when you log on, and find that your good friends have mercilessly stabbed you. My previous method involved drinking my woes away, kicking the dog, and beating my children, but they're starting to tell their friends. Should I just move onto my wife?

What do YOU do to vent your anger?
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wushuwil (156 D)
21 Nov 10 UTC
Inverse convoy
Where the armies could transport ships across land
good idea or good idea?
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Hirsute (161 D)
21 Nov 10 UTC
Players needed
gameID=41675. France and England both needed.
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Tom Bombadil (4023 D(G))
19 Nov 10 UTC
HARRY POTTER
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!!
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joey1 (198 D)
19 Nov 10 UTC
Is fighting terrorism with extra security good value for money?
In the last 10 years there has only been 1 major terrorist attack on North American soil. - death toll about 3-4 thousand. Is the money spent on stopping further attacks worth it?
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P8er Jackson (0 DX)
21 Nov 10 UTC
huu
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=42316
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
18 Nov 10 UTC
The Greatest World Leader of All-Time (And I'm ALREADY Sick of William+Kate! GAH!)
Pretty simple--if you had to choose any past or present world leader to lead your nation--or a new one like, say, Freedonia...Hail, Hail Freedonia!--who would it be? What Kings, Queens, Emperors and Emissaries, Prime Ministers and Presidents have been the greatest in history, and who would you want to LIVE under? We look at the best of the best here (and off-topic, as much as I like the Royal Family in England generally...STOP IT, US NEWS, I DON'T CARE ABOUT A WEDDING YEARS OFF NOW!!!)
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Bob Genghiskhan (1233 D)
21 Nov 10 UTC
Anyone in the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald?
It's a gunboat game, but I don't think it's a bad thing if we know who's in it before we start.
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Hirsute (161 D)
21 Nov 10 UTC
Turkey needed
gameID=41423. Spring 1905, 4 SCs. Pretty good position.
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mcbry (439 D)
21 Nov 10 UTC
stab woes
What is your best method to relieve stress when you log on, and find that the best friend you have mercilessly stabbed is not happy about it? They bitch, they moan,
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Hirsute (161 D)
21 Nov 10 UTC
New player needed!
We need a replacement Turkey for gameID=4167. The team is doing very well in a juggernaut with Russia (me). It's Autumn 1905. Please join ASAP
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groza528 (518 D)
18 Nov 10 UTC
Just a Goddam Game: End of Game Statements
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=40640
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ava2790 (232 D(S))
19 Nov 10 UTC
HY ROLLERZ 3 EOG
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Roberto Salvaje (100 D)
20 Nov 10 UTC
New game. It's called Why can't we be friends?
It starts in about 30 minutes and has a 5 min phase.

Empieza en treinta minutos y tiene una fase de cinco minutos.
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
19 Nov 10 UTC
Southern California Face to Face game
Any interest?
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mapleleaf (0 DX)
19 Nov 10 UTC
HY ROLLERZ-4
It's on. 200 bet, WTA, gunboat, anon.
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Draugnar (0 DX)
18 Nov 10 UTC
Kangaroo Court End of Game Statements
Let's post 'em here. Mine will be a few moments.
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deagles (100 D)
19 Nov 10 UTC
New standard game
3 day deadlines. Bet of 80 to join. Need 1 more player.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=42005
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joey1 (198 D)
19 Nov 10 UTC
How about Syracuse NY for NE gathering
Just looking for a good place for a meeting, what about Syracuse NY as it is fairly central to Ontario and NE US. It is on the junction of I-90 and I-81 and is fairly close for us Canadians.
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