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baumhaeuer (245 D)
16 Nov 10 UTC
Conlangers of the forum, post!
Any conlangers on this site? Whether the conlang is your own, or someone else's, anybody out there?
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mapleleaf (0 DX)
13 Nov 10 UTC
Just wanted to say hello to ivo publicly
Hello ivo.
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Bob Genghiskhan (1233 D)
15 Nov 10 UTC
Password protected live game
110 point password game, set for one hour from now. Respond in this thread and I'll PM you the password about 10 minutes before game time.
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Bob Genghiskhan (1233 D)
15 Nov 10 UTC
So, how does one enter a league?
Enquiring minds want to know.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
14 Nov 10 UTC
This is a Gunboat Thread
Please, no cheating.
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loftus99 (100 D)
15 Nov 10 UTC
Builds
The games I have played recently have only allowed me to build on my 3 starting sc's is this part of the game or is it some sort of glitch?
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Ges (292 D)
14 Nov 10 UTC
Most and least destabilizing early CDs?
No Civil Disorder is good, but they seem not to be created equally. CDs by which countries are most likely to kill a game outright? Which can be reasonably successfully incorporated into ongoing diplomatic exchanges?
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Dpddouglass (908 D)
14 Nov 10 UTC
101 pts 3 day turns WTA
New game, mature players only please.
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P8er Jackson (0 DX)
14 Nov 10 UTC
gameID=41841
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Hirsute (161 D)
14 Nov 10 UTC
England needed
We need a replacement player for England in <a href = "http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=41423">gameID=41423</a>.
You would have 3 SCs left. Not in a great position, but still playable.
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trip (696 D(B))
14 Nov 10 UTC
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If a player creates a game and leaves it before anyone else has joined, does the game cancel?
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peter25 (0 DX)
14 Nov 10 UTC
anyone want to play today 5 min turns
join to the game star war 30 D to join.... will start in 2 hours
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doofman (201 D)
14 Nov 10 UTC
People Playing 'gunboat wta-24'
This is the 3rd cd there will have been, and it should have been cancelled, even drawn a long time ago but Germany was being a twat and didn't and now Turkey and Italy have withdrawn those votes cos they think they have a chance of winning- fucking pointless selfish petty and worthless, just cancel or draw that shit
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curtis (8870 D)
14 Nov 10 UTC
Moderator
Is there a moderator around.... I would like to contact them. Thanks.
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spyman (424 D(G))
11 Nov 10 UTC
Replacement needed in my games
I have to stop playing at webdip and I hoping someone can rake over my games.
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Ebay (966 D)
05 Nov 10 UTC
Another Ebay Challenge game!
Yes that's right. I'm looking to start another high caliber, high stakes, password protected, Anon game. So, if you've played in one of my games before, missed one before, played me at some other time or would just like to play a good game then post interest here. Once I have 7 players I'll create the game. I'll be looking for the best players possible so it's not first come first serve.
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P8er Jackson (0 DX)
13 Nov 10 UTC
great game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=41744
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Kev_nst (998 D)
12 Nov 10 UTC
marvelous backstab
I was Persia and I was allied with Greece who left his back totally vulnerable. I stole from him 4 sc with one single stab, lol:
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=39738#gamePanel
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Draugnar (0 DX)
13 Nov 10 UTC
Er... Mapleleaf = A Palm Feeler?
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
09 Nov 10 UTC
A Must See: The Walking Dead
A new show from AMC. Absolutely fantastic! A must see for anyone who's a fan of zombie apocalypse/survival horror. Very high production value. First episode can be found on Hulu. Or, you know, the rest of the Internet.
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jdiplomate (100 D)
10 Nov 10 UTC
JDiplomacy
Hello, I'd like to present my own version of Diplomacy, please take a look ! :)

http://www.jdiplomacy.net
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JesusPetry (258 D)
11 Nov 10 UTC
New gunboat
gameID=41630

35 D, 36h, anonymous WTA.
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Troodonte (3379 D)
11 Nov 10 UTC
Gunboat Means Never Having To Say You're Sorry-2
Game finished.
gameID=39868
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Sinon (133 D)
12 Nov 10 UTC
World Gunboat, anyone?
gameID=41663

30 point buy in, WTA.... the password is, of course, swordfish
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himethisisme (839 D)
12 Nov 10 UTC
Italy needed
He's not in terrible shape, actually. gameID=41162 if anyone's interested.
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
10 Nov 10 UTC
US Deficit Cutting Plan
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-10/deficit-reduction-panel-s-plan-would-seek-to-cut-social-security-medicare.html
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baumhaeuer (245 D)
05 Nov 10 UTC
Abgemacht!
Quantum mechanics question: could you explain to me "quantum suicide" in a little detail? You mentioned it a while back, and the assumption seemed to be that once an observer is observing, he will always do so in his own set of universes. Does that mean (according to the theory) there will always be some universes out there, for each observer, where a particular observer has never died?
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Darwyn (1601 D)
09 Nov 10 UTC
TGM Champions' Trophy Game WINNER
The Champions Trophy is the showcase tournament of the Diplomacy calendar, involving just seven players, chosen on the basis of performance in competitive diplomacy over the previous year. It will include the champion from last year, the winners from the previous two league seasons, the winner and runner-up from The Masters', and the two highest placed players in the GFDT.
Darwyn (1601 D)
09 Nov 10 UTC
I am very happy to say that I have won the Champion's Trophy. It was a very long and hard fought road, but I was able to pull it out.

http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26743

I plan on writing up an EOG statement within the next couple of days. Anyone from that game is welcome to write one too. And anyone else is free to comment.

Congrats goes to:
* Polar Bear (League Champion)
* Braveheart (League Runner-up, GFDT Champion)
* TheGhostmaker (Winner League A, GFDT Champion)
* sean (League Fourth)
* Darwyn (GFDT Champion)
* Centurian (GFDT Champion)
* Chrispminis (GFDT Runner-up)
stratagos (3269 D(S))
09 Nov 10 UTC
Holy crap, you guys have been playing since *April*? I'm damn glad I opted out ;)
Darwyn (1601 D)
09 Nov 10 UTC
Yeah, it was a long game but not without it's pauses.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
09 Nov 10 UTC
Congrats
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
09 Nov 10 UTC
Congrats on the win Darwyn, well played.

My EOG:

This game started out terribly for me, and I got attacked from all sides, and nearly went down to one unit before I hatched a plot with Italy against Austria. That built me up to several centres, but left an Italian fleet in the Black Sea, hardly ideal, so I swapped back round again to go with Austria against his old ally Italy.

At this point, no-one had gone out, but most had looked down the barrel of the gun at some point. To stop Austria, Italy went for an alliance with Germany, bringing him over the stalemate line. I was less alert to the triple alliance between F/G/I than, in hindsight, I should have been, and it might have been an opportune time to hop aboard. A little later on I tried to make the switch, but it wasn’t really going to be possible- Italy and Germany were requiring me to do all the legwork without getting much in return... they didn’t offer support in any way, so I stuck with the alliance with Austria.

We were tactically at a big disadvantage here, so we did well to hold on as well as we did, and we were helped a little by the (inevitable) conflict between France and Italy, but we really needed to outplay Germany every turn to overcome the disadvantage, and it didn’t work out that way.

We were left with an F/G vs A/T, with the F/G clearly holding tactical supremacy. I couldn’t see a way forward with Austria, so I reluctantly stabbed him- Madmarx does a good job nurturing alliances, but needs must- aiming to go it alone and get a three way.

France did a few things that I didn’t see as good news for me, such as some fairly petty (in my opinion) lying with respect to the last Italian centres, preventing me from getting Naples, my having been honest with him about what I was planning to do. I don’t like playing like that because I don’t see that the lost opportunities for trust justify the meagre benefits. Nevertheless, it indicated a France who was not interested in alliance with me, and was rather dead set on an alliance with Germany to the very end.

This being the case, I needed something to force France’s hand. I considered trying to ally with Germany, but there was no incentive I could really offer- strong second means nothing in the game, so isn’t believable, and a two-way seemed on the cards as F/G already. Splitting down the middle by saying, let’s play for a two way, but giving you the better security, and possibly agreeing to duke it out from 17-16 in your favour to decide whether we have a two-way or a win for you was all I could do, and past experience suggests that such offers have a low percentage chance of succeeding at all.

I therefore decided that the thing to do was to force France to ally with me, so I deliberately defended in such a way as to give Germany the better opportunities. In this time, I sent a few messages to France, but either got no response or a response indicating a total lack of interest in talking to me, so I just waited for Italy to finally go down. When he did, I voted draw and sent a message to both of France and Germany stating that I was looking for a three-way draw (this was in a build phase). I figured if one of them voted draw, the other would likely follow. Germany responded to the effect that he had no reason to vote for a draw, whilst I argued (in vain, and I didn’t expect to succeed) that with 3 players, the best that could happen would be to to-and-fro indefinitely. France (again) didn’t respond, so I sent a further message to the effect that I had no choice but to throw the game if he didn’t draw, because as it was I was being defeated anyway. I stated that my disbands would be so as to let Germany take all the centres he needed within the year.

France reacted very badly to this (as was always a risk), and copied my message into the global. I figured that this probably meant the end of the game was soon to be upon us. Nevertheless, I wasn’t going to give up, and avoided criticising France for his decision to copy messages to global (something else that I find is not worth doing), since that would just make him less likely to vote draw, my condition for resistance against Germany. I quietly explained why I needed to do it to France in our private chat- that as it was I was not needed by either France or Germany, and so I had to do something to make myself needed again, namely force France to ally with me to save the game. It was not to be; France didn’t vote draw. In the spring, not following through my threat would have been a disaster, because I would have aggravated France to no benefit. Sticking to my guns meant that I could possibly get him to come round next turn, and try to push Germany back. In the Autumn, it was impossible to prevent the solo without France’s help, which was not forthcoming.

Although I disagree with France's choice, being, as they were, totally against his own interests in the game (I suspect he will object to mine as well, and, if his in game demeanor was anything to go by, in stronger terms), I still think it was a very good game, and well played all.
Darwyn (1601 D)
09 Nov 10 UTC
Good read...and a fast post. :) Mine will come tomorrow...
stratagos (3269 D(S))
09 Nov 10 UTC
I want to know what France was thinking ;)
MadMarx (36299 D(G))
10 Nov 10 UTC
Congrats, Darwyn! I thought your stab of me was a bit premature, but I tend to err on the side of thinking everyone will join together to take down the big guy, and often don't anticipate a reaction such as France's, that of latching his wagon onto you and riding your coat tails.

My game started well enough, as Austria, Italy and I were advancing in the southeast and primed to take out Turkey. Italy decided to stab me, while Turkey was on his death bed, and of course Italy blamed me for not sharing more centers as we advanced for the reason he had to stab me. I gave Greece to Italy in spring 1903, supported Italy into Smyrna in Autumn 1904, which put both Italy and me at six centers. Suppose it was the fact that I supported myself into Con, to put me at 7 centers while Italy had 6, that was more than the Italian could take of my arrogant self-centered approach to the game that forced Italy to stab me that fall. Rarely a season passed the rest of the game where Italy did not remind me of the fact that I had forced him to stab me and how our mutual demise was undisputedly 100% my fault.

At that point Germany and I were working together while I tried to fend off Italy and get Turkey to join me and stab Italy. Italy was smart enough to help Turkey grow and put Turkey in a position to stab Italy, which I gladly worked with Turkey to do.

I was getting very spread out, but Germany was a great ally and I trusted him 100%, especially since I was on a mission to make Italy pay for stabbing me and I actually did owe Germany for helping me finish off Russia and allow us to have a peaceful border. I supported Germany into Marseilless in spring 1908, which I suppose was the German's reason for stabbing me in fall 1908! ;-) Just kidding, the German's stab put him in a powerful position and I assumed this would result in a Grand Alliance against Germany. My mistake.

I supported France back into Marseilles, in an attempt to make peace and get France on board against Germany, but I think France was pissed at England and was happy to team up with Germany to kill off the Englishman. Bad news for me!

At this point, my only ally was Turkey and the two of us worked extremely well together. We held our own against Italy until France could come and gut Italy from behind and even though Turkey and I were not on the southeast stalemate line, if we stood together it would take a long time to take us down. I did pretty much anything and everything Turkey asked, though we discussed things as we went as well. The Turk stabbed me in fall 1914, which pretty much ended my game.

The pauses made this game pure torture, well, probably combined with the fact that I wasn't doing well. I'm the loyal type, like to work with others, and in this game it got me stabbed by Italy, then stabbed by Germany, France and finally stabbed by Turkey. If anyone else needs a tissue, for the tears that are undoubtedly streaming down your cheeks, fear not, I have plenty to share.
sean (3490 D(B))
10 Nov 10 UTC
This game had so many long pauses from various players(some of whom requested in my opinion too many pauses) that I can hardly remember the start!, April! For me the pauses slowed down the intensity and dragged the game Im afraid. Casting my mind back I remember I made a fatal error at the start of the game. I was Russia, I found that usually with these higher level games Russia and the Turk JGnaught it (playing ti safe) , I decided to ally with austria and try to take out the turk asap, Big error, I didnt know who the turk was but from the steady stream of BS coming from Austria I soon realized I was in bed with MadMarx(sorry MM) Tried to change things around but it was already too late. I was slowly but surely destroyed by a austria and germany. I was soon a wounded animal that everyone could easily take out. Germany played the whole game very well and Im glad he took the victory. The end was on a slightly sour note I think as France refused a 3 way draw and because of that germany won, but I dont know the ins and outs of that situation so I will let others explain what happened right at the end
MadMarx (36299 D(G))
11 Nov 10 UTC
No worries, sean, some people rub certain other people the wrong way, though often times the feeling is mutual! ;-)
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
11 Nov 10 UTC
@ Darwyn: "The Champions Trophy is the showcase tournament of the Diplomacy calendar... I am very happy to say that I have won the Champion's Trophy... Congrats goes to: Darwyn (GFDT Champion)"

Fucking hell, give me a break.

Here's something else to put in your imaginary trophy cabinet.

THE AWARD FOR THE SMUGGEST, MOST SELF-CONGRATULATORY FORUM POST OF THE YEAR GOES TO:

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******** DARWYN!!! ********
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Congratulations to Darwyn! It takes a real wanker to create a thread just for the purpose of congratulating yourself.
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
11 Nov 10 UTC
While we're at it, what do you mean by "competitive diplomacy" ?

Surely every game is competitive?
Darwyn (1601 D)
11 Nov 10 UTC
Keep your pants on Jamie...that was a description of the final game that was copy/pasted from The Ghostmakers homepage. It was posted as a reminder of what that game was all about to refresh other's memories since it had been going since April.

You can call my post smug and self congratulatory all you want. Fine. But I was honored to have been a part of the game and happy to have won it. I'm not sure if you had taken part in either the GFDT or any of the League games that have been running for well over 2 years, but that game was a culmination of ALL of that. It was news worthy, so I posted it. Would you have felt better if someone else made the announcement? Perhaps if I had sucked my own dick a bit more and not gave thanks or congrats to the other players, I might have taken you seriously. So unless you wish to comment on the game itself, I ask that you kindly shut the fuck up. :)

Thank you.
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
11 Nov 10 UTC
@ Darwyn:

"that was a description of the final game that was copy/pasted from The Ghostmakers homepage."

You didn't say that anywhere, so how were any non-league site members supposed to know that? If you had said that, you might have come across as slightly less smug and self-congratulatory.

"Would you have felt better if someone else made the announcement?"

Yes, of course. Being congratulated by someone else is fine. Loudly congratulating yourself is dickish.

"I'm not sure if you had taken part in either the GFDT or any of the League games that have been running for well over 2 years..."

No, I haven't. I don't like league play as it is based on metagaming in a manner I consider distasteful.

"You can call my post smug and self congratulatory all you want. Fine."

It was, so I did. Fine.
Darwyn (1601 D)
11 Nov 10 UTC
Perhaps I should have mentioned it was a copy/paste. But again, I wasn't posting it to congratulate myself. I did that shortly after the game with a shot of whiskey. :) I posted it as a news announcement and as a place for EOG statements.

I apologize if I came across sounding dickish...I don't see it that way and certainly didn't mean it that way. So to anyone else reading this, there's the explanation. Thank you Jamie for being the self-congratulatory police. :) Can I go home now?
Darwyn (1601 D)
11 Nov 10 UTC
My EOG…

I do want to mention (again) that I was honored to have been a part of this game. The list of great players involved in this game meant that it was sure to be a good, exciting game…and it was. I was definitely up for it and had purposely not joined any other games so that I could concentrate solely on this one.

I drew Germany. I had won once and placed well with Germany in the past so I felt pretty good about playing the Kaiser. I was also happy that I didn’t draw Austria which is not one of my strengths.

As everyone knows with the western powers, two of them will gang up on the other. My goal was simply to not be the one left out to dry. In 1901, I felt that I had established good enough relations with England to fight France together. I agreed to leave Russia to Sweden. But I ended up NMR’ing in Autumn.  My only game and I NMR?! Not a good start. But it may have actually helped me as my Spring moves had not completely revealed my intentions as Russia, England and France at this point all seemed pretty friendly. Also, Austria and I established good relations early. In fact, from what I remember, I believe Austria, Italy and I spoke of a central power alliance. I certainly didn’t need anyone attacking me from behind while I was dealing with England or France.

So by 1902, I felt that all I needed to do was to pick a side and run with it. I chose to side with England and attack France. France did an amazing job with his defense. He repelled my intrusion into Burgundy and established himself as a force…but I was finding that cooperation with England against Russia was working well. In Autumn 1903, I again broke into Burgundy with English help and I had also made some progress against Russia in the North. I was fighting two fronts…and England and I were enjoying mutual benefits.

Spring 1904. It was at this point that I began to feel the paranoia. Things were going too well. I figured a stab had to be coming soon…and it did. England got me pretty good by taking two of my centers and helped France repel my intrusion into Burgundy a second time. But in my haste to push further into Russia, I had convoyed to Livonia which pressured an unoccupied Moscow…forcing Russia to try to cover. Austria was generous enough to prop me up a bit by supporting me to Warsaw and moving to Bohemia for “support”. I used quotes because I believe he had an ulterior motive for it and would turn on me in a heartbeat if he saw the opportunity. Although, he was enjoying some success against Turkey.

Unfortunately, I don’t remember the conversation, but France and I spoke about turning the tide against England. He might have been troubled by Italy’s move against him, but I was able to recover from England’s initial stab, thanks to French and Austrian support.

The next couple years England put up a good fight, but was losing ground to France and I. By 1906, It was time to turn the tides again. I saw France as a threat at this point due to his potential to make some fast gains and in going through the permutations over the course of a few years, I figured that I would eventually have been in a position where he was dominate and while my back was turned, he would stab and make a run for the solo.

I contacted England and solicited his help against France. He agreed and France was put on the defensive. It was at this time that Italy was committed to attacking Austria so I did everything I could to support Austria. This paid off later, when in Spring1908, he helped me into Mars from Pie. With committed support from Austria and England and with France on the defensive as he and England fought each other hard, I thought it was a good time to stab Austria and make a run for a solo myself. I honestly thought I could do it at the time, but it was premature.

At this point I was in a bit of a panic. I could not afford to isolate myself and have everyone turn on me, so I made France an offer to align with him against England. He agreed and together we drove the English forces back.

Spring 1909 IMO was really the turning point of the game that gave way to the outcome. France and England had ravaged each other, Austria, who was nearly split in two by my drive eastward, and Italy, who was battling back from Austria’s devastation, were fighting, Turkey was on the ropes and Russia was all but done for.

I had few enemies at this point. I had to be careful to not get too far ahead so I supported France and Italy as best I could for the next few years. Once England was mostly taken care of, France moved on Italy and I supported him for the rest of the way.

I had been thinking about soloing since 1908, but it wasn’t really a realistic outcome until much later. It was always in the back of my mind though and I assumed it was in France’s as well. We enjoyed a very good alliance, but I was also very cautious about it, as was he. We both took measures to ensure that neither of us stabbed the other. But that wasn’t enough to stop my paranoia. I kept my line of communication open with Austria and Turkey, even asking Austria if he thought that there was a potential France-Turkey alliance in the works. He was less than happy about my asking while I attacked him relentlessly, but I was seriously very worried about it. I needed to keep my options open should something happen, I thought.

By 1914, I figured this game might end in a draw, which I was fine with. But then Turkey stabbed Austria. And in another mistake on my part that ended up turning out well for me, I failed to move to Budapest in Autumn 1915 as I told France I would. But I think what it did was displace Turkey’s units away from my front and onto France’s front and allowed a quicker route to the Turks captured territories of Rum, Sev, etc.

I was still worried about collusion between France and Turkey, but from the other EOG’s and things written within global, it seems that both of them were determined to stop the other. I wasn’t sure of that at the time, but in considering my options for a solo, France was being a *great* ally so I decided that I didn’t want to “stab” him in the sense that I invaded him to grab the win. Instead, I figured I might be able to beat him in a race to 18 SC’s. I almost pulled the trigger in Spring 1918, but was glad I didn’t because in Autumn, I realized I could take it. So I did.

Again, my apologies to France for what it’s worth. He was a great ally. There was a chance to end the game in my favor and end any possibility of a second game where who knows how I would have placed, so that was it.

This was definitely one of the more enjoyable games I’ve played. I put in a *lot* of hours over the course of these months thinking about my tactics and staring at the map.

As to France’s unwillingness to side with Turkey against me to stop a solo…I am grateful he didn’t but also admittedly a little surprised. It was always in the back of my mind that he would as Austria will attest to in his verbal lashing of me for asking. 

If he had done so, I was as prepared as I could have been but it definitely could have changed the outcome.

Thank you for the game everyone!
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
12 Nov 10 UTC
@ Darwyn:

""

""

I will let you out of the self-congratulators prison if you can explain those weird symbols.
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
12 Nov 10 UTC
@ Darwyn:

""

""

I will let you out of the self-congratulators prison if you can explain those weird symbols.
Darwyn (1601 D)
12 Nov 10 UTC
I wrote it in MS Word and my smiles " :) " got converted into emoticons automatically and then when I copy/pasted it, those are the symbols that appeared.

So, technically, they are supposed to be smiles. :)


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gomey (781 D)
12 Nov 10 UTC
Change username?
Hi there,
I was wondering if there were some way I can change my username?
Any ideas?
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newkid11 (211 D)
12 Nov 10 UTC
How about a waiting list for members wishing to join "live" games
Would it be possible to have a statistics list for those who are logged on who are for example waiting for a live gunboat game. Too many times I have set up a new game but only to fail because I could not get to the required 7 people.

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