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chamois (136 D)
07 Nov 10 UTC
Foreign languages you learned and why:
please, write here the languages you learned, those you are learning or those you are going to learn. Then explain why.
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Praetorian308 (100 D)
08 Nov 10 UTC
English: I live in Texas.
Spanish: The smattering everyone who isn't fluent knows.
Latin: I know it's not a foreign language persay, but I've been educated in it, and may pursue a Classics minor.
German: I want to study abroad in Germany, and my heritage is very German as well. I really love German culture and history.
oghannam (120 D)
08 Nov 10 UTC
Arabic, English: fluent
French, Russian: basic understanding
German: just some words
Raffaello (361 D)
08 Nov 10 UTC
Italian: mother tongue
English: First at school, which was barely enough for my Physics degree. My american wife gave an important contribution, too. Now we speak English in the family.
German: I live in Zurich since a long time and that' the language I speak most.

Like most italians, I speak/understand a bit of Spanish and French.
joey1 (198 D)
08 Nov 10 UTC
From Ottawa Canada, which is on the border of Quebec, so English is my mother tongue, I can read and speak some French. (Just don't ask me to write it). My wife's mother tongue is French, (Franco-Ontarian), but we speak English at home.
sean (3490 D(B))
08 Nov 10 UTC
native tongue- English
fairly ok Japanese- coz I live in Japan
smattering of Indonesian( my wife's native tongue) an easy language to learn actually.
tiny residual trace elements of Mandarin I learned at University:)
My wife is one of those annoying people who pick up languages at a drop of a hat, she has been watching a Korean drama for a few weeks and now speaks more than a few phrases( add that to her Native Balinese+Indonesian, near native Javanese, English, great Japanese and ok French)
Ivo_ivanov (7545 D)
08 Nov 10 UTC
Bulgarian - Native and very useful internationally :)
English - rather fluent, kind of useless though :P
Some French - spent a few years in North Africa, traveled to FRA a lot, parents are fluent, the French don't speak anything else, so you don't really have a choice
Some German - my fist job was for a Germany company and as my boss (a German) refused to learn Bulgarian and his English had a very strong Bavarian accent...
Russian - used to be fluent, but haven't used it for a decade at least. The language of our 'big communist brothers' before the changes, we all had to learn it.

I can also curse and swear very well in Serbian, Arabic and Turkish.
rdrivera2005 (3533 D(G))
08 Nov 10 UTC
Portuguese - In fact, Brasilian Portuguese, as I discover when I travel to Europe and used audio guides that I understand better English then Portugal portuguese.

English - To play here of course.

Spanish - I live near Argentina and Uruguai, so you learn at least the basic to comunicate well with your neighbours and buy on the free shops. And it worked on Spain too, how strange :-)

German - Studied four years at Goethe Institut when I intend to have a Phd on Germany, but give up and have forgetten almost everything, except how to curse and ask for a beer. Have been on Munchen Oktoberfest where it was really usefull :-)

France and Italian - Can aks for food, directions, and read most instructions, specially if it has some pictures.
chamois (136 D)
08 Nov 10 UTC
@Ivo : the French have to study at least two foreign language at school. I know we have a bad reputation but most of the French can have a basic conversation in English.
JesusPetry (258 D)
08 Nov 10 UTC
Native Brazilian Portuguese, fluent English, lousy Spanish, can read and understand a fair bit of spoken French and Italian and know a song in Hungarian, besides a few words in Japanese ("Good morning", "Good afternoon", "Good night", "Thanks", "Goodbye" and the most important of all: "Is this eatable?"). :-P
Draugnar (0 DX)
08 Nov 10 UTC
Do you mean is this edible? Just picking on you JesusPetry. I know English is just "fluent" and not "native" for you.
Ivo_ivanov (7545 D)
08 Nov 10 UTC
@chamois - you may have to study, but this does not mean you've learned it or will want to use is :P

I was joking though - yes, it's a stereotype...
JesusPetry (258 D)
08 Nov 10 UTC
Thanks, Draugnar! In fact I knew the word but put too much thought in how to construct the Japanese sentence into English and got blocked.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
08 Nov 10 UTC
Le francais m'occupe chaque jour entre 14h00 et 16h00.

je deteste l'ecole.

aussi, je desteste que je ne peux pas utiliser les accents facilement sur mon ordinateur portable. les francais me detestent quand je parle avec eux dans les chatrooms.

lol

groza528 (518 D)
08 Nov 10 UTC
Moi, j'ai l'meme probleme. Comment peut-on taper les accents sans la boite numerique (ou un clavier europeen?)
Thucydides (864 D(B))
08 Nov 10 UTC
impossible, malhereusement.

lol. helas.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
08 Nov 10 UTC
wait, how do you say "lol" in French?
chamois (136 D)
08 Nov 10 UTC
@abgemacht : "mdr" but most French understand "lol" aswell
baumhaeuer (245 D)
09 Nov 10 UTC
native tongue: English
(literarilly fluent)

First learned language: German, because I needed to learn a language and I have German cultural connections.
(semi-fluent) My last big hurdle is obtaining a large vocabulary. My accent is pretty good, according to a native speaker.

Second learned language: Japanese, because I got good at German and like it and wanted to be a translator (written), and figured another big trade language would come in handy. I did not choose Chinese because, if I ever traveled abroad, I would prefer to go to Japan.
(not fluent, though I can introduce myself) I can tentatively form basic sentences based on a six-week old vocabulary and understand the particle stuff fairly well.

Latin, Spanish, and East Franconian (a German dialect): know some grammatical tidbits that allow me to form some EXTREMELY basic sentences.

I find that I like and am good at linguistics in general. I have intermittently worked on and looked at some constructed languages, including one to provide non-babble-word-sounding place names for a world in a novel my brother is speculating about working on. Buhabu Buthym Buhabym.
sean (3490 D(B))
09 Nov 10 UTC
Im really surprised how common German( as a second language) is here. Put that down to Bismark being a great Diplomat I guess
figlesquidge (2131 D)
09 Nov 10 UTC
I think it's close similarity to English also helps - it can be seen as the 'easy option' to a school that has to teach some language.
penguinflying (111 D)
09 Nov 10 UTC
English (mother tongue--USAmerican)
German (had a friend who went to Waldsee, a German-language-learning camp in northern Minnesota, and invited me along one year; kept it up in high school)
French (wanted to take a second language in high school; didn't want to take Spanish out of contrariness. Just have two years; read poorly and speak abominably.)
Turkish (was an exchange student in Turkey. Have forgotten a lot.)
Russian (fell in love with Dostoevsky and decided to be a Russian major. That didn't last long...just took a year, my freshman year of college. But I did meet my future wife in the class.)
Ancient Greek (I was a religion major; everyone told me that I should take Ancient [Attic] Greek rather than Biblical Greek, because AG would allow me to read BG but not the other way around. I've forgotten a lot but will hopefully pick it up again pretty quickly next year in seminary.)
Ancient Hebrew (Ditto--just one summer course at a Lutheran seminary near my hometown.)
Norwegian (heritage. Just took a year in college.)
Now I live in Korea and can only say "hello," "thank you," "goodbye," "I want to go to Wolgye Station," "Left," and "Right." Oh, also "karaoke." But very little else.
I'd love to learn Japanese; right now I just know a few words...what an awesome country.
Timur (673 D(B))
09 Nov 10 UTC
"I'd love to learn Japanese; ...what an awesome country."

Just wish they'd stay in it. The 'War of Japanese Aggression' was, indeed, pretty awesome. The Rape of Nanking didn't make them too popular with their near neighbour, and it still rankles to this day as they won't even admit to it, in any language.
Timur (673 D(B))
09 Nov 10 UTC
Learn how to say 'F*ck you, Japan'. That's all the Japanese you'll ever need.
Ivo_ivanov (7545 D)
09 Nov 10 UTC
"Im really surprised how common German( as a second language) is here. Put that down to Bismark being a great Diplomat I guess "

I'd rather look for the reasons in the periods after Bismark.
Ivo_ivanov (7545 D)
09 Nov 10 UTC
@Timur

Chill dude. Do you get the difference between the leadership of the Empire of Japan some seventy years ago and the current Japanese? All that is fucked seem to be your brain...
onewaytrip (108 D)
09 Nov 10 UTC
I speak English as a native. I also studied Japanese for four years and can read and write at a high school level; I recently moved to Tokyo where I live and work as a missionary.

I want to learn another SE Asian language, but will likely wait until my Japanese vocabulary is more filled-out.
penguinflying (111 D)
09 Nov 10 UTC
@Timur

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements_issued_by_Japan

Perhaps the extensive list of apologies catalogued above rings hollow to those who suffered, or whose parents or grandparents suffered, under Japanese rule. That would be understandable. The Japanese Empire and people in its employ committed crimes that can never be repaid or made right.

I am also aware, or at any rate I imagine it to be the case, that there are lots of people in Japan, including some in the Japanese government, who are unaware of or in denial about or unrepentant for their ancestors' and their countrymen's crimes during WWII and in the decades of colonialism previous to that. I wish there weren't, but unfortunately it's to be expected.

But how is it productive or just to say that, sixty-five years afterwards, all the Japanese I need to know is "F*ck you, Japan," when successive Japanese governments and their representatives have repeatedly apologized for their country's actions and Japan has itself been a model member of the commonwealth of nations?

The Japanese as a nation suffered pretty terribly as a result of their country's aggression. They sowed the wind and reaped the whirlwind. Ask the survivors of the firebombing of Tokyo, or of the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. There was widespread hunger and misery at the beginning of the American occupation. Many of Japan's leaders were brought to trial, convicted, and punished with imprisonment or execution for their crimes.

Furthermore, Japan has done a remarkably good job of staying within its own borders since 1945. Better than, for example, their neighbors the Chinese--just ask the Tibetans. To preemptively take a club out of Timur's hands, the Japanese have of course also done better at staying within their own borders since 1945 than my own native United States--although they're a big part of the reason we ever sent troops in large numbers abroad in the first place, and I think that many of the US's out-of-border military actions (the Korean War, Gulf War I, etc.) were wise and just. But I digress.

None of that erases the sufferings of the people and the nations who were oppressed by Japan, or returns the lives ended or ruined as a result of the crimes of the Japanese government or of individual Japanese. But neither is it just that the Japanese of today be solely judged by the evil actions of past generations.

Japan has friendly and courteous people, beautiful landscape (both natural and artificial), delicious food, and a fascinating and refined culture, to name just a few of its many, many positive attributes. I have been there three times now and hope I will be able to return often. And so with no disrespect intended to South Korea, the beautiful and hospitable country where I currently reside, or to any other country that suffered as a result of Japanese actions during WWII or the century previous, but also with no apologies to anyone except for my potentially bad Japanese (I'm relying on Google Translate), I say again:

日本:どのような素晴らしい国!

/grandiloquent troll-feeding


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Agent K (0 DX)
02 Nov 10 UTC
Where the Hell be my ghost ratings at?
see above
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flashman (2274 D(G))
09 Nov 10 UTC
I have a new job!
Pimping relatives apparently...

cg, how very very good to see you back from the depths of Westminster.
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groza528 (518 D)
08 Nov 10 UTC
US - Rocky Mtn World Cup team?
I'm going to go out on a limb and say there probably aren't three more here from Montana... so let's extend the geographic area to the states in the Rocky Mountain region. Any chance there are enough interested parties to field a team for the next World Cup tourney?
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
02 Nov 10 UTC
Mad vs Crazy: gameID=41094
Crazyter missed my Invitationals, I'm starting up one more game, details within.
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rayNimagi (375 D)
04 Nov 10 UTC
Low-Bet Game for Amateur Players that Don't CD
Requirements for participants:
Low CD record (1 or 0)
Less than 300 D total.
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Philalethes (100 D(B))
08 Nov 10 UTC
The Trial of Anaxagoras
For people who play to have fun, eh.
Classic, Full Press, Anon, WTA, 48 hours phases, 333 (D) to join. PM for password.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=41472
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
07 Nov 10 UTC
Are the leagues over yet?
Mine just finished so I'm just curious. Who is still going?
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Maniac (184 D(B))
08 Nov 10 UTC
rules query
Cutting foreign support that you don't need.
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doofman (201 D)
08 Nov 10 UTC
I think my schizophrenia is coming back
I can't work out whether I'm Batman or Spartacus
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ashen_shugar (236 D)
08 Nov 10 UTC
Frayed Edges
France has CD'd and is in a decent position
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=40883
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Ivo_ivanov (7545 D)
05 Nov 10 UTC
Suggestion: Draw by centers
A lot of games end up with finishing off draw participants. Maximizing the outcome for the remaining powers. Not the best practice, from a certain perspective. Would it make sense to have the option for draws to not be equal. Everyone gets 1/7th (his entry cost) + a part of the rest, split proportionally to center count.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
05 Nov 10 UTC
Where Have You gone, Real Journalism?
O'Reilley had his sexual assualt case and a reputation for...well...and Limbaugh made his comments about Haiti and has a rep for...well...
And now, just to show the Left-Wing "journalists" are as bad as the Right:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20101105/bs_yblog_upshot/msnbc-suspends-olbermann-over-political-contributions Olbermann was more entertaining, but still just a loundmouth..really, are there ANY real journalists left, or is it just Punditry 24/7?
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
03 Nov 10 UTC
New Ghost-Ratings up
Yeah, this.

http://tournaments.webdiplomacy.net
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stinkbomb (332 D)
07 Nov 10 UTC
Can a convoy cut support?
I'm about to convoy an army to a territory A, with support from an adjacent territory B. My opponent has a unit in territory A and a unit in a third territory C adjacent to territory B. I'm worried he may order terC-terB with support from terA. I know that this will cut support from terB and make the convoy fail, but will the convoy at least cut support from terA and make his attack fail as well?
Thanks!
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
25 Oct 10 UTC
Middle of (cancelled) game statement: Suicidal Tendencies
summary: what a farce
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Yobgal (515 D)
07 Nov 10 UTC
Bug - creation of impossible orders
It appears that I have a bug with convoys. The orders that executed aren't what I thought I entered. Further, the orders that attempted to execute aren't even possible.
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TheOregonDuke (100 D)
07 Nov 10 UTC
Diplomacy League
Anyone interested in getting a little league going? Maybe a few? Have a few games a week. Have rankings, stuff like that?
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TheOregonDuke (100 D)
07 Nov 10 UTC
Anyway to boot or get a message out?
In a game that was paused. 1 person is MIA and we want an unpause. Do we need them in there or can you boot them? Do you need a unanimous to cancel?
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
06 Nov 10 UTC
petition to officially change conservative man's name to CM
lol this is a joke... but like... lol
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gman314 (100 D)
06 Nov 10 UTC
Low-caliber GR challenge game
Is anyone interested in a GR game for players with a GR of about 96. Thats a rank of about 1400-1300
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Maniac (184 D(B))
05 Nov 10 UTC
Guess the number...
What is the smallest number of times Italy spoke to Turkey in this game?gameID=41016
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Emperor of Death (100 D)
06 Nov 10 UTC
A United World
A United World, 10 D to join, 2 day turns, open chat and players, points per SC

gameID=41327
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gman314 (100 D)
06 Nov 10 UTC
Olidip chaos game
New chaos game on olidip! Join!
http://olidip.net/board.php?gameID=2481
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DunedinDave (100 D)
05 Nov 10 UTC
chat room?
how much server strain would it be to set up a chat room for the live gamers? Working on the theory that you would then get to see who really was around, and whether or not it was worth starting a fresh game. Having the option to place icons after a name for things like "in a game" and "keen to play", and being able to show idle times and stuff like that?

Being new here I don't know if this has been discussed before but would be interested in feedback.
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Conservative Man (100 D)
03 Nov 10 UTC
The most hilarious thing ever (if it's true)
http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2010/11/surprise_rest_of_the_shoo-ins.php
hilarious excerpt inside
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tilMletokill (100 D)
03 Nov 10 UTC
A Thousand Suns
What do you guys think of Linkin Park's new album?
I find it amazing but others think they suck now.
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Ges (292 D)
05 Nov 10 UTC
WorldDip vs. Classic Dip Timeline
Affirmative motion:
2015 in World Diplomacy is analogous to 1904 in Calhamer Diplomacy
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trip (696 D(B))
03 Nov 10 UTC
GR 300
Open to anyone with a GR in the 300s. Game details inside.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
28 Oct 10 UTC
Fallout: New Vegas
Would have posted this in the "Advice" Thread, but then I noticed, there were about 20 of them...
Who's played it? How is it? Looks good, but want to know more before I shell out the 50 clams.
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