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superchunk (4890 D)
07 Nov 09 UTC
Need a few more for a live 10pt game!
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n00bzorz pwnage (494 D)
06 Nov 09 UTC
Another what if...
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I recently read Bring The Jubilee by Ward Moore in which the Confederates take the Round Tops during the battle of Gettysburg and as a result win the battle. It then presents a picture of America if the Confederates won. This lot on diplomacy is pretty well educated so I was wondering what do you guys think would have happened if the Confederates won the Civil War?
BoG75 (6816 D)
06 Nov 09 UTC
There would have been two America's. USA and CSA.
JECE (1248 D)
06 Nov 09 UTC
They lost Vicksburg, which was much more important than Gettysburg.
Draugnar (0 DX)
06 Nov 09 UTC
Militarily, but Gettysburg was the beginning of the end and signaled a loss of faith in Robert E. Lee's ability to get the job done so that when Pemberton surrendered the next day, it was all but over. The fat lady was on deck and warming up her vocal chords...
the.dibster (100 D)
06 Nov 09 UTC
@n00b: Well that's just the problem. Lee mistakenly thought that winning battles means winning wars. That's not necessarily true. If the Confederates won at Gettysburg they would not have been able to do much else with an exhausted army, and could not pull off a Sherman's march, even just inside Pennsylvania. The war would not have been significantly changed. The northern factions were still in the majority pro-war, the war-time economy was still full of resources and intact, and Lincoln's character determines that the war would have continued.

Furthermore, the Round tops were not part of Lee's plan. His plan followed Napoleon's Waterloo strategy: Napoleon, being once an artillery officer and thus beleiving strongly in cannon power, bombarded the center and sent in his elite troops right down the middle, but the underestimated enemy drove him back. Similarly, Lee bombarded Cemetary ridge with his inferior cannon power (and most of the shots missed, it being dark) and followed with a doomed Pickett's Charge.

Even in the unlikely event the South won, the government there was relatively ineffectual and the agrarian economy means expansion would be limited. Eventually the two sides would recombine or get stuck in another war, which the North would win.
denis (864 D)
07 Nov 09 UTC
The war would have been longer but the confederates would eventually lose
airborne (154 D)
07 Nov 09 UTC
honestly the drama over how poor the Union's morale was is completely overrated, even with defeat at Gettysburg the Union would keep up the fight
DrOct (219 D(B))
07 Nov 09 UTC
@the.dibster - you are probably right that winning Gettysburg would only have drawn things out, but I think you're wrong about Lee thinking that winning battles equaled winning wars. I was always under the impression that the whole reason he made the incursion into Pennsylvania was to try to scare the bejesus out of the North by taking the war to them, the idea being if he won a big battle or two in Northern territory they might sue for peace. Now it's entirely possible (probably even likely) he misjudged the Union's resolve to keep the fight up, but we'll never really know because he didn't win. But the point is that heading north was a calculated move to try to end the war quickly with a psychological victory rather than a simple victory in battle.


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Phaedrus (248 D)
06 Nov 09 UTC
Tricks
Only recently have I learned how useful a Self Standoff can be. What are some other clever tricks?
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PrettyLadyShay (100 D)
05 Nov 09 UTC
Hi there
im new here so can someone help me out? just tell me whats goin on plzz
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nagrom (131 D)
06 Nov 09 UTC
query about game mechanics
Hi All,

I'm playing in game 14976 (http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=14976#gamePanel) and i was not credited spain as a supply centre. Can anyone explain why this is? I thought i just had to move a unit to it at some stage. Do you need to have a unit there in autumn to capture?
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airborne (154 D)
07 Nov 09 UTC
What If...
The seven leaders (date:1914) of the diplomacy great powers, played a diplomacy game, who would you think would win?
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pi r round (0 DX)
07 Nov 09 UTC
Live game
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Rooster Man (0 DX)
07 Nov 09 UTC
live game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=15099
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vamosrammstein (757 D(B))
06 Nov 09 UTC
New game?
I'm out of games now, and I'm sitting for the moment, so I won't be joining any new ones for a week or so, but I was wondering if anyone was interested in getting a game going? Preferably people I haven't played with before/recently, but I really just want to get a game going. I really don't care whether or not its PPSC/WTA, and the pot size is irrelevant to me, but definitely a real game.
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papula (116 D)
07 Nov 09 UTC
Lets play LIVE
hey guys
Live game. 15 D to start. PPSC. Global chat only :)
Here is the link: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=15095
Join Quick, and lets have fun!!!
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hellalt (70 D)
05 Nov 09 UTC
Job, Money, Success?
One question for you
Would you do something completely pointless and stupid just to get paid or would you deny it and keep your dignity?
I tend to choose the second path but I usually regret it afterward.
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masterninja (251 DX)
06 Nov 09 UTC
GAME STUCK
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=15094#gamePanel
live one
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Crazyter (1335 D(G))
06 Nov 09 UTC
Join a Great Game Now
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=15094

10 min phase with talking
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tilMletokill (100 D)
06 Nov 09 UTC
What is with my games I create? (live game thread)
Everyone I create is a question to myself.
Ohh what is this a Live Game?
gameID=15092
No communication- very fast
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Ursa (1617 D)
05 Nov 09 UTC
League C games
Commentary thread for the ongoing Leagues.
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WRB (2664 D)
06 Nov 09 UTC
Please Join New Game!
Whatever It Takes: gameID=15076
68 bet, 14 hour phase, PPSC
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BoG75 (6816 D)
06 Nov 09 UTC
What if...
Since I am somewhat bored at work today I wanted to post this What If scenario. What would the world look like if Central Powers won World War One?
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`ZaZaMaRaNDaBo` (1922 D)
06 Nov 09 UTC
Live Game Today
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Geofram (130 D(B))
06 Nov 09 UTC
Gunboat Finesse - 2
For those that want to play again.
3 replies
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G41Nxe (100 D)
06 Nov 09 UTC
game i am/was inactive -> error.
gameID=15031. I was inactive and didn't make any move since the beginning. Opening any to this game belonging page shows me this error: "Error triggered: Unknown column 'Germany' in 'where clause'."
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eeezfly (165 D)
06 Nov 09 UTC
The new diplomacy has problems
there are allot of problems
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jireland20 (0 DX)
06 Nov 09 UTC
Need more people LIVE GAME COME PLAY
JUST a couple more come play LIVE http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=15077
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JPhelps84 (339 D)
06 Nov 09 UTC
Does this game look weird to you?
I've been playing a game and debating whether to report it or not...
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podium (498 D)
06 Nov 09 UTC
Anonymous
When you join a game that is for anonymous players.My name shows up as a player in that game is there a way to change this or is it shown only to me and other players are seeing you as anonymous or are they able to see who I am.
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denis (864 D)
06 Nov 09 UTC
Take over turkey!!!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=13932&msgCountry=Global
nice size turkey up for grabs
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Geofram (130 D(B))
06 Nov 09 UTC
Game not processing...
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=14397
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bloodstock (544 D)
06 Nov 09 UTC
Can't finalise orders
Game Heresy Gunboat. The only options I seem to have are ready or not ready. Neither of these get me to a position where I can finalise. Any ideas?
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masterninja (251 DX)
06 Nov 09 UTC
New game- fast
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=15062

10pts, anon, global press only
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denis (864 D)
06 Nov 09 UTC
Southwest Diplomats
wondering how many people would be interested in an FtF game or tourney
see below
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diplomat1889 (372 D)
05 Nov 09 UTC
Just curious!
You can call me a noob if you want, but i'm curious if anyone could list all the jargon and the meanings so i don't have to keep asking others.
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