Only players in the game can read the Global Chat. So we can't read his confession.

I would encourage you to form a grand alliance against him, destroy him, and then draw the game with the other alliance members. Your combined positions look strong enough to pull this off.

I've banned the second account, but not yet the 'main' one. Yours is the only game in which he's cheated, and I was just wondering if you'd like a forced draw? As soon as I ban him another player can take over and would then probably be against the idea of drawing and loosing all their points!
Also, please would one of you inform him of this thread.

This was his reply on the global thread when England did a VERY sus move after coming back from CD and joining with Russia without even talking to the other players....
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Autumn 1905: I am not cheating - my uncle was wanting to play the game and can't play very often so I took up his account for a while. Since I'm being ganged up on and since he would help me anyway, I thought I'd get myself an ally. If I wanted to cheat to win a game, I would join at the very beginning.
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We also suspected him of using Austria under the circumstances as that country would talk to no-one but consistently took a centre then gave it to the advancing Russian freely... not usual play you will agree!

Can the admins kick the Russia out before declaring a draw so that he gains no benefit? If this is the case then I would be ok with calling it a draw.

Yes we could, and this would be one suitable option.
I could ban Russia, pushing him CD, then could force-draw the game straight away before anyone else joined. If this is the view you agree to ingame then can a few of you let me know - I don't want to draw the game without definite agreement!

I agree with this, and will check in with the others.

France and Germany have also agreed to the draw so could you go ahead and arrange this please. Kick Russia & Draw with the remaining three ie Italy, France & Germany.

Thanks for handling the problem admins.

@Sligoman, figlesquidge will likely want to see France and Germany post here, so you may want to ask them to do so.

JPhelps84 is the French player and he ok ( see above ). Will ask German player to post.

azteca germany agree to the draw and to illiminate russia before closing the game as a 3 way draw france, italy germany.

The idea of not allowing players from the same subnet is preposterous as entire universities (like OSU and others) use the same subnet and are large enough (thousands of students) that you might be incriminating players who have never and will never meet. I mean a senior in PoliSci and a freshman plannign to major in engineering would never be in the same class and not liekly be in the same frat, yet you'd have them punished for campus proximity.

Same thing applies to large companies. GE Evendale (which makes jet engines) employs thousands of people in fields from machinists/mechanics to IT to Admin and Management to Engineering. Yet it has one subnet shared by all the computers there.

My own company subnet is out of Livonia Michigan because Valassis (a part owner of PEP, my employer) provides our internet access along with Red Plum, ADVO, and several other companies. All of them route through Livonia and share one subnet that gets subdivided into sub-subnets using some rather high end switches.

Then there are the people whose home ISPs are either the phone company or the cable company (like mine). Your saying someone whose external IP matces mine because they happen to be on Insight but live 20+ miles from me should cause both of us to be restricted? You really don't have aclue of what subnets and IPs are all about, do you?

Hopefully that worked...

Oh, and there's no danger of that happening Draug don't worry!

All I'm suggesting is that people on the same subnet couldnt participate in the same public game, ( and yes, Draug, I do understand about subnets and IPs :-) Considering the many hundreds of people involved in online games, and the international nature of the internet, do you really consider it a huge restriction that you couldnt find six or seven people that didnt share a subnet.... that is preposterous :-) If you like, make it an optional setting when the game is initiated, then people from the same university or workplace could participate, but the risk of abuse in that game is present, and everyone knows it... fair enough. But for people like myself, who play online due to geographical difficulties of getting local players, it would be nice to know that it was a straight game.

And thank you fidlesquidge for sorting this one out.

OK, geogrpahic location and IP addresses. I have offices in Boston, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Livonia, MI, Cincinnati, and LA all connected with T1s up to Livonia and all sharing the same subnet. <sarcasm> Now THAT's really geographically similar. </sarcasm> See how stupid that option is?

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Autumn 1905: I am not cheating - my uncle was wanting to play the game and can't play very often so I took up his account for a while. Since I'm being ganged up on and since he would help me anyway, I thought I'd get myself an ally. If I wanted to cheat to win a game, I would join at the very beginning.
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That justification is so ridiculous it is hilarious. Where is this comedian? He should join this thread and explain himself.

Why so hostile Draugnar ? Have I personally insulted you in some way ? Just because you work for a large organisation does not change the argument, that the choice of allowing or dis-allowing same subnet IPs would benefit a lot of people. If you had a problem with it, simply start a game with the option allowed. Surely not a problem for one as obviously knowledgeable as yourself. Anyway, if you're at work should you really be playing online games ? Probably not :-)