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tboin4 (100 D)
24 Jan 09 UTC
Swapping land
In a game. If I own both say Galicia and Warsaw, could I do warsaw-galicia and galicia-warsaw?
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SrgtSilver64 (335 D)
24 Jan 09 UTC
Request unpause please
Im not saying unpause just yet but can a mod look into game id http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8084 and just unpause it if Russia doesnt come back in a few days. Thanks.
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Spell of Wheels (4896 D)
24 Jan 09 UTC
Could a Moderator unpause this game
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8220

This game was paused since Bunny was banned. Everyone except France has agreed to resume and he was NMR in the spring.
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wideyedwanderer (706 D)
24 Jan 09 UTC
Needed
Player to take over a CD France. Good position. Game is almost over. France and I were allies, and were about to force a stalemate.

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=7793&msgCountry=Global
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figlesquidge (2131 D)
24 Jan 09 UTC
Old Guard
The games coming up saying "newbies only" etc lead me to do this. Next friday I'd like to start a couple of new games, and I was wondering:
Can I find 7 people with 3-digit ID's? How many of us are left?
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andersred (152 D)
24 Jan 09 UTC
Question re winning points
Can someone explain how I have got to 106 points please?
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amonkeyperson (100 D)
24 Jan 09 UTC
Why?
What were the reasons Tarablus got banned?
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
30 Dec 08 UTC
Palestinians, Israel, the US, England, and the World- The Crisis
This thread is to discuss the current situation on the Gaza Strip, who you think is right and wrong, if you think there is a right or wrong, and what you predict the world will do and what you think the world should do

Try to be somewhat respectful, even if it's hard; I know it's a hot issue for some (me included) but do try and stay somewhat civil.
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Invictus (240 D)
24 Jan 09 UTC
Tarablus for President
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8265
30 points, 24 hour phases, points per center.

It's mourning again in America.
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wooooo (926 D)
24 Jan 09 UTC
Very fast game (1 hour)
If anyone is up for the commitment of sitting down and playing a quick game (I expect turn deadline to be 15 minutes even if they are technically an hour) please respond. I will put up a password protected game if enough people do.
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Invictus (240 D)
23 Jan 09 UTC
Obama and Africa
This is a serious thread. Will Obama be effective in helping to bring political stability to Africa? Bush did more than any other President for AIDS relief and debt reduction, among other things, but will Obama be able to actually expand this to getting the African people the governments they deserve?
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Bunny (0 DX)
24 Jan 09 UTC
What the?
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fabiobaq (444 D)
24 Jan 09 UTC
rules - supporting a supporting unit
Is it valid to support a supporting unit? I mean, Unit A on province X will support Unit B moving to a province Y. Is it valid to Unit C support Unit A holding, so that an enemy 1-supported movement into province X won't obtain?
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philcore (317 D(S))
24 Jan 09 UTC
Ban Tarablus!!
That is bullshit!!! What the hell is wrong with you?
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Onar (131 D)
24 Jan 09 UTC
New game, just for fun
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8264
low point entry, anyone interested?
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DingleberryJones (4469 D(B))
24 Jan 09 UTC
Where's the outrage?
The Sri Lankan military shelled a hospital and a village inside a government-declared "safe zone" for displaced families Thursday, killing at least 30 civilians, health officials said.
So I always wondered, when Israel has a headline like the above, they are crucified in the media and there are worldwide protests. Yet the above goes almost unnoted. Why is that? I've heard it said it is because the US is providing the Israeli arms. But that doesn't ring true. A dead civilian is a dead civilian, regardless of who pays. An attack on a hospital is an attack on a hospital.

Why is that?
youradhere (1345 D)
24 Jan 09 UTC
I honestly haven't heard a thing about this.

It's because, frankly, no one cares about Sri Lanka. At least to Americans, it seems like one of those countries where bad things are just supposed to happen; which makes some sort of sense, given the civil war there. Israel has the appearance of a much more Western, stable nation, as a result of which the western media is much more critical of Israel than Sri Lanka.

I think it may also be because the West feels that Israel is the only representation of itself in the Middle East, while Sri Lanka is just another Asian nation.
xcurlyxfries (0 DX)
24 Jan 09 UTC
All I know about Sri Lanka is that they have a deadly staring frog.
Invictus (240 D)
24 Jan 09 UTC
The situations are pretty different, but it is troubling how there's nothing anywhere about this. The Sri Lankan civil war's been going on for decades and here the government is about to win and we hear nothing. The tragic civilian deaths aside, we should be getting news about just the fact that the war's going on. The media picks and chooses which story to tell, and we lose a lot of meaningful information in the process.
Here was the link the quote was pulled from. Its just baffling, an estimated 5 MILLION dead in Congo in their long running war (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/24/rwanda-congo-war-crimes) , civilians shelled in hospitals in Sri Lanka, yet the news is all Gaza, all the time.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gVoaDFmbCYS-Usz9ACDRIengj21QD95SC4NG0
Invictus (240 D)
24 Jan 09 UTC
There's also Colombia, Darfur, Burma's still got stuff going on in the mountains, low-grade separatism all over Indonesia, and all the messes in Africa that we hear nothing about. I realize it's impossible to genuinely feel the empathy for all the suffering people in the world as much as is deserved, but certainly Sri Lanka should bump Pairs Hilton in the headlines.

There's no way to solve it, however. The news business is a business and needs to make money for us to have any kind of information, and nationalizing it would turn it into Pravda. I guess we'll all have to stew in our bitterness indefinitely.
youradhere (1345 D)
24 Jan 09 UTC
Wow. I searched for the hospital shelling on wikipedia, BBC, and New York Times. I only found a brief mention of it in the NYT, after which the article continued yelling at the Tamil Tigers for using civilians as shields.

Which is very ironic indeed.

The situation in Congo is simply horrible, but no one cares. I tried to raise awareness at my school, but all I got was "oh, it's just Africa".
airborne (154 D)
24 Jan 09 UTC
War, War Never Changes.
zuzak (100 D)
24 Jan 09 UTC
The US doesn't support Sri Lanka, it does support Israel. What are we going to do, invade? We don't really have much influence in this, nor do we have as much reason to care. We're fighting a war in the Middle East, so the Middle East gets more attention.

I'd also say that it goes back to the US just being isolationist. If it doesn't affect us, we try to leave it alone.
fabiobaq (444 D)
24 Jan 09 UTC
In fact you should care about Congo, since the US has both hands full of blood, since 1960 - by conspiring to depose and/or murder the (first and only) democratically ellected chief of state, protecting diplomatically a Belgian puppet seccessionist movement to safeguard its access to the biggest uranium mine in the world (the uranium used to make the bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki came from the Congo), helping to put in place and supporting for decades one of the bloodiest dictators ever seen over this planet (Mobutu), supporting and helping to organize a mercenary army gathered to squash a huge and almost victorious peasant rebellion aimed at toppling the US-backed dictator ("the simbas' revolt"), and so on. Though US seem to be clean in the case of Sri Lanka, the colonial policies by the British are at the roots of the civil war there, as in many other parts of the world...
Thucydides (864 D(B))
24 Jan 09 UTC
I actually did an extensive report on Sri Lanka so it interests me a lot. In 2006 there was only a VERY brief mention on BBC about a major decisive naval battle between the Sri Lankan Navy and the Tigers, in which they were driven from sea power. Thousands died in that one day. It got less sentences than I just wrote in the newscast, and no mentions in the American news media.

I haven't heard any Sri Lankan news from any news media since besides the Economist, which is part of the reason I love the Economist.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
24 Jan 09 UTC
And if I remember right at the end of NBC Nightly News that same day they did a piece on Paris Hilton's dog.
sean (3490 D(B))
24 Jan 09 UTC
you guys need to change new service providers, i read about the sri lankan civil war all the time on AL Jazeera, the Guardian, and BBC(international version). god point Fabiobaq, i didnt know about how involved the US was. but like a lot of conflicts around the world that see "far away" go behind the story and you see multinational resource/mining companies, western and russian arms manufacturers and the good old "free trade" (ie we feel free to trade away your resources) governments from the developed world.

however the civil war in sri lanka is a bit more like the balkan conflicts than an african resource grab conflict. Ethnicity and religion, centralized state power and the slow sad slide of freedom fighters turning into terrorists.
Zuzak, I don't think people in Athens and Paris are protesting Gaza because of American support of Israel. There's another reason. And I'm not just talking protests in America. Europeans are much more vocal.

People protest because of downtrodden people getting killed (and good PR). Again, doesn't matter who bought the gun, so why no protests over Congo or Sri Lanka?
Bunny (0 DX)
24 Jan 09 UTC
The difference perhaps is that the situation in Sri Lanka is about to conclude because the Tamil Tigers (declared around the World to be a terror organisation) are about to be finally defeatead... In the end game of the conflict I think people are turning a blind eye because to shout about human rights at this stage could potentially prolong the conflict, which needs top end so this doesn;t happen in future.
fabiobaq (444 D)
24 Jan 09 UTC
sean, I think there are many points in common between Sri Lanka, Congo and other "ethnic" and "religious" conflicts. It was all the usual for colonial powers to make use of otherwise relatively peaceful ethnic and religious differences to divide a colony's population. Sometimes they would allow only one "ethnicity" to serve as traditional chiefs, would take these guys' sons and make them study in modern european schools, while the others would study agriculture or nothing at all... Then when theses people who were literate in the colonial language and were at the lower echelons of the colonial administration began to feed emancipatory ideas, colonial powers turned to one of the other ethnicities and accused the first of exploiting them and being "tribalistic"... This happened in Rwanda, in Nigeria, and as far as I know in Sri Lanka as well. In fact, the British are still there: Sri Lanka is part of the Commonwealth and there are still British military bases in the island...
StaggerLee (100 D)
24 Jan 09 UTC
We have had some reports on that the Sri Lankan civil war is seemingly in it's endphase, but nothing about the civilian deaths, as far as I could tell from the major daily newspapers (this is in Sweden).

Well, the palestine conflict has been a big issue for a lot of people for close to 40 years now. Plus Europe has big groups of both jewish and arabic descent, which probably both are more interested in that particular conflict.
warsprite (152 D)
24 Jan 09 UTC
You can find reports on Sri Lanka once in a blue moon, when ever the US press has a slow week. The conflict has been going on for about as long as the Arab Isreali conflicts. Stagger is right about the some reasons for disparity of interest, than there is the strategic interest in the Middle East. But the media's selective coverage, and the average American's disinterest in any thing till it hits them in face, is the primary reasons.


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Dexter.Morgan (135 D)
24 Jan 09 UTC
That was rude, Tarablus.
There were some active conversations that you just pushed completely off the board with your Spam.
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Kompole (546 D)
24 Jan 09 UTC
KIEL CANAL
I know it's not on this maps, but it's on a table game of Diplomacy. What's its purpose? Does it allow convoys across from Helgoland Bight to Baltic sea?
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mapleleaf (0 DX)
23 Jan 09 UTC
New game
NO RIF RAFF
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V+ (5465 D)
23 Jan 09 UTC
Help unpause game
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8179

The game was paused when a player was banned, and all have voted to unpause except one, France, who hasn't logged in for 50 hours. Thanks.
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Friendly Sword (636 D)
23 Jan 09 UTC
Rules Question
This kind of a dumb question but I thought I'd make sure :P
(Below)
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Friendly Sword (636 D)
22 Jan 09 UTC
In-game discussion tips
Friendly Sword is wondering whether there is a better and more effective way for Friendly Sword to talk :P?
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Draugnar (0 DX)
20 Jan 09 UTC
I've noticed an amazing similarity here.
Obama and Biden
Osama bin Laden

They sound remarkably alike.
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SirBayer (480 D)
23 Jan 09 UTC
Civil Disorder X
I have a question...
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jhsu (137 D)
23 Jan 09 UTC
New Game
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8252
Ice Cream, All you ever wanted.
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Jacob (2466 D)
23 Jan 09 UTC
Need help from a mod.
Can you please delete this game?
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8243
I accidentally made it not realizing I had already made a game with that title. Thanks!
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canaduh (1324 D)
21 Jan 09 UTC
A question for the super-experience
In my experience, Russia getting Sweden in the first year puts Russia in a very strong position. I would go as far as saying that the first two years.

Has there been any research/thinking on this? Is there any evidence to back up my gut feel (based on the fact that Russia always wins when I play, and I cnnot convince Germany to block the overrunning of Sweden)?
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amonkeyperson (100 D)
23 Jan 09 UTC
Convoy
Can you convoy an army thro TWO fleets in one turn?
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mumford (290 D)
23 Jan 09 UTC
Booting players?
So is there a way to boot a player who is ruining a game by not finalizing orders, even during retreats and unit placing?
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Vinnie the sifter (100 D)
23 Jan 09 UTC
Just for Fun-3
Please no experts on this game this is for novice players looking for a good time.
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