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Hive Tyrant (46 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
MULTI ACCOUNTERS!!!
HERE IS A LIST OF MULTI ACCOUNTERS

AmestrisState
Anarchist09
Anarchy101
GRQ09
and,
ze fuhrer

Do Not Trust Him
AmestrisState (17 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
GRQ is my brither not a multi account
Hive Tyrant (46 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
Also, I have found out that he also uses C.M. Barker
AmestrisState (17 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
and here is another list of multi accounts,
Hive tyrant,
gorilla warfare,
very cheesy
evileater
AmestrisState (17 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
i know this because my friend is hive tyrant and i saw him long on to the others
AmestrisState (17 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
if you want me to addmit that i have multi accounts fine i will
figlesquidge (2131 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
What's the point in having multiple accounts? Seriously, please tell me why you do it? :S
Wooble (450 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
Umm, because they're immature teenagers with nothing better to do?

And get off my lawn!
The Kaiser (2 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
I Think that people multi account because they are new and they want to play multiple games
the dictator (65 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
i think people do because they want to win but are not that good
figlesquidge (2131 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
Don't insult teenagers! As stated in the demographics thread, I am a teenager, as are several other players such as Chrispminis, anlari and Locke. I hope you don't consider any of us as immature? On other sites I know of several adults who've had multiple accounts because they've got too competitive.
AteTrack13 (100 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
it's absolutely unfair, but that's no reason to belittle these kids.

we should have an IP watch or something, maybe allow people to play with multiple accounts in only certain games or something.
aoe3rules (949 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
yeah, what's wrong with teenagers? look, i'm sorry i destroyed those cars last week, but i'm not really a bad person.
TOgilvie (845 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
A witch, a witch! Burn her, BURN HER!

How do you know she is a witch?

'Cause she looks like one.
Yeah! Burn her!
alamothe (3367 D(B))
06 Dec 07 UTC
no - our admin has better things to do, and you can't blame him. soon we'll have moderators who will be able to track them. one year ban as a standard punishment for multiaccounting will fix things easily
Chrispminis (916 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
It will get to the point where I'm so paranoid that I'll believe that I'm really only playing the game with one other person. ALL of you are the SAME person... I just know it. All out to fool me...
GodofWar (100 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
haha nice call on the Monty Python quotes... the scales they use kill me. and i completely agree, i now think everyone is out to get me
fastspawn (1625 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
i think they created multi-accounts to give - votes to Khan. If you scroll back, you can see several quick successive votes against Khan were given by the above mentioned.
dangermouse (5551 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
where did you get that info alamothe?
dangermouse (5551 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
ze fuhrer's email is [email protected]. Hive Tyrant's (the one accusing him of multi-accounting) is [email protected]

What is going on here? Is one person accusing half of his accounts of multi-accounting? :)
alamothe (3367 D(B))
06 Dec 07 UTC
which info...? kestas told us he's currently implementing moderator feature
sean (3490 D(B))
06 Dec 07 UTC
it seems obvious that people would create multi accounts to play 2 or more countries in the one game , its sad and pathetic. but until kestas can introduce some sort of ip tracker(and what of people who need to check up on their games at work or school?)or moderator system then we only really have the name and shame system. so all you multi accounters hang your heads in shame, you are not worthy to be considered a player of diplomacy.
cgwhite32 (1465 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
I was just about to make that very point Sean. I play from work, and there are seven of us all using the same IP address to play here online. That's quite apart from the ridiculous number of games that I'm currently playing!

As for multi-accounters, I just can't understand why people do it. Yes, you get an easy win, but surely it's more satisfying to win, or draw, knowing that you've pitted your wits against some intelligent people and come out on top (or not died!).
Machtyn (120 D)
07 Dec 07 UTC
What sean said... I've checked my game from work, home, friends houses, parent's house, etc. Plus, if someone was stupid enough, they could spoof their IP... but, seriously, why?
flashman (2274 D(G))
07 Dec 07 UTC
I also am seriously peed off with a number of the above named-shamed multi-accounters for starting in games and then leaving them for dead. It spoils them for the other players, we are left hanging around for 24 hours again and again just for a retreat or unit placement. The gaps spoil the whole experience.

I can only assume that these players have never really been able to enjoy the intensity and inter-play that this game can generate at its best.

There is a lot to be said for private games.

As for extremes, there is one game going on at the moment where five players were aliases of Smart Jason (when it started that is, at least three have gone CD by now) and the other two are in the hands of someone who should know better. Oh, and Smart Jason is losing...

The best reason for letting it continue...

I believe he has multi-accounted in every game he starts, and there have been a lot of them.



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SlkySmoothOtter (969 D)
07 Dec 07 UTC
New game for 50 points.
I wanted to start a game for a medium number of points, hopefully anyone can play if they want.
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pitirre (0 DX)
06 Dec 07 UTC
ways of communication
i only do my negotiations or "diplomacing" in the chat window in the game and i was wandering if any of you has communicated with other players using e-mail, messenger or just calling using your mobile or homephone.

i will find very thrilling to diplomacing using messenger or cel...but i never had the opportunity.

how was your experience if you have communicated using another alternative than the chat window at phpdip?

i even have a ouija! ;0) Maybe i can get Bismarck to play.
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dangermouse (5551 D)
05 Dec 07 UTC
Interesting Endgame
One of the most interesting endgames I've seen in a while. I wonder who's going to win.
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=1977
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Kilinari (100 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
50 point game
Please join at gid=2392
Bet of 50
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AmestrisState (17 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
Re: Multi accounters
i admit that i am a multi accounter but so is hive tyrant with verycheesy and gorilla warfare, grq09 is my brother but the rest is true
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dice00 (100 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
New Game Started
Just started a new game called fun times
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Razz (144 D)
04 Dec 07 UTC
Say What???
06:06 AM Autumn 1905, Diplomacy: Your army at Ankara recieved stand support from the army at Constantinople, but couldn't accept it because your army at Constantinople tried to move

How in the he** can I give stand support AND move at the same time??
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Nick Douglas (408 D)
05 Dec 07 UTC
Hey remember when people abandoned games because they had no incentive to continue?
And then we invented the point system and now no one abandons them any more?

Okay, I wasn't around before the point system, but were there even more abandoned games than the 35 I'm looking at now?
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AmestrisState (17 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
hive tyrant!!!
he is a bitch for saying i am a multi accounter when he is as well
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sean (3490 D(B))
05 Dec 07 UTC
aspirational nobs gather yea swords while yea may
no new games started so i started one, for the aspirational newbies who have joined recently and want to get out of the below 100 hundred crowd. well the winner of the 7 of us will anyway.
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
05 Dec 07 UTC
Why not open a game bet 101?
That's to stop those wannabes from mucking up the games.
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Braveheart (2408 D(S))
05 Dec 07 UTC
Rules governing retreats
Can i just clarify the rules in this version of the game please..... if a unit is forced to retreat it has the option to move to any free adjacent territory? (provided no-one else is trying to move or retreat there)

Even if this means moving further away from your own 'home country', and/or grabbing a supply centre? which could actually be pretty advantageous.
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flashman (2274 D(G))
03 Dec 07 UTC
Where is meer?
We have one place left for Ghengis 2

(same password as for Ghengis 1)
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flashman (2274 D(G))
03 Dec 07 UTC
New Game: Ghengis 2
Nothing to do with the voting threads, but I have resurrected the Ghengis game I tried to start last week.

This is a small pot (5 points) but big on communication and diplomatic creativity...

Those who tried to join the first one, the password remains the same:

Who or what defeated the Mongol's in East Asia (one word).

Rait: you wanted to try a small pot game... I hope you can make it.

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Keyseir (100 D)
04 Dec 07 UTC
07-08
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2368

Game starts in an hour, 90 point bet. Need one more player.
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Locke (1846 D)
29 Nov 07 UTC
Greatest Diplomacy Player ever shortlist continued
The board as it now stands


10 Alexander (Macedonian Leader)
8 Bismarck (Prussian Statesman)
6 Ceaser (Roman Leader)
10 Genghis Khan (Mongolian Leader)
4 Khalid ibn al-Walid (Arabic General)
10 Machiavelli (Florentine Statesman)
2 Napoleon (French Leader)
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Noodlebug (1812 D)
03 Dec 07 UTC
Greatest LIVING Diplomacy Player - discussion/nominations only
While the GDP Ever thread is reaching it's climax I thought we could get some suggestions as to who might be the best Diplomacy player out of well-known people alive today.

While Rait is an obvious candidate, to avoid things getting personal we should limit it to people who (as far as we know) don't actually play.

Would it be a prominent politician, such as Bush, Blair or Gorbachev? Or someone behind the scenes, like Karl Rove or Peter Mandelson? Or perhaps the field of modern conflict is business, and the transferable skills for empire-building are best demonstrated by the likes of Rupert Murdoch or other major corporate CEOs? Would military strategists like Schwarzkopf and Petreus get a look in? Could renegades (from a Western perspective) like Castro or Bin Laden have what it takes?

This is just a discussion thread, so no voting until we have a result in the other thread. The most talked about (by different people!) candidates will make the shortlist.
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VIOLA (1650 D)
04 Dec 07 UTC
DRAW
When finish draw a game?
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sean (3490 D(B))
03 Dec 07 UTC
novice to net diplomacy
hi, first i have to say that being new to online diplomacy that after a look at the several sites PHP is the most accessible one . however i do have a few questions. what determines the "end of phase"? seems to be 20 hours, is it always 20ish hours? if one doesn't finalized one is in civil disturbance and all units hold? i use this sites map (in the my game section) so what"s the program on soundforge for? do i need to download it? thanks
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fwancophile (164 D)
03 Dec 07 UTC
stuck
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2359
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Braveheart (2408 D(S))
03 Dec 07 UTC
Can your own units swap place on the board?
For example, If I had a army in Norway and fleet in Sweden could I do:

Army Norway move to Sweden
Fleet Sweden move to Norway

And if this is possible assuming no external factors, what would happen if England tried to move a Fleet from North Sea to Norway with NO support?
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Vampiero (3525 D)
03 Dec 07 UTC
2 games in stalled
hey kestas, could you process two of my games in 'due now' mode:

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2299
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2190

much thx
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seattle (156 D)
26 Nov 07 UTC
Grand Festive Diplomacy Tournament
I worry that this is already turning into a farce, because of the seeding system - for instance, the number 2 seed in the whole tournament, Locke, is already out.
There might be more mileage in the following heat system next time:
Heat 1
1, 5, 9, 13, 17, 21, 25
Heat 2
2, 6, 10, 14, 18, 22, 26
Heat 3
3, 7, 11, 15, 19, 23, 27
Heat 4
4, 8, 12, 16, 20, 24, 28
Heat 5
29, 32, 35, 38, 41, 44, 47
Heat 6
30, 33, 36, 39, 42, 45, 48
Heat 7
31, 34, 37, 40, 43, 46, 49

Semi Final 1
1A, 2C, 3C, 4A, 5B, 6C, 7A
Semi Final 2
1B, 2B, 3B, 4B, 5C, 6A, 7B
Semi Final 3
1C, 2A, 3A, 4C, 5A, 6B, 7C

Final
1A, 1B, 2A, 2B, 3A, 3B and best third place

This makes sure weaker players can get into the next round, while also assuring plenty of places for established players. What does anyone think?
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Zxylon (0 DX)
02 Dec 07 UTC
Win %
I am curious about people's winning percentage. AKA Number of games won over number of games not won (lost= come in second or worse).
I have won 14 and lost 22. So my % is 63.6%. Its a different way of looking at rankings.
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mapleleaf (0 DX)
03 Dec 07 UTC
STARTING IN 1 HOUR...
...rocket launcher. ante is 14. we need two more players.
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Darwyn (1601 D)
30 Nov 07 UTC
The Point System
The debate never ends...Does the current point system alter the way the game SHOULD be played? This is arguable, but If the spirit of the game is to always play for the win, then YES!! The current point system changes this by allowing inferior countries plead for survival with the hope that they can retain some points rather then trying to negotiate with other inferior countries in attacking the superior country.

I am guilty of this myself.

But again, if we can agree that the spirit of the game is to always play for the win, here is what I propose:

1) Change the point system to a token system and keep it private.
Points are only be used as an ante to enter games with players of similar caliber...or to keep out players with lesser points.

What if instead of granting new players 100 pts, they are granted 10 GREEN tokens. Games can only be created by using ONE token of whatever color you decide. So, the new player can join up to 10 green token games.

Tokens are only lost if you allow your country to go CD. They are never stripped from you if you lose. But if you win or lose, they change color.

Each win allows you to change the color of ALL of your tokens to the next higher color...say, blue. After each loss, one of your chips will return to the lower color. So, after winning your first game and getting all your chips to turn blue (allowing you to play in blue AND green level games), each game you enter and lose thereafter will change ONE token back to it's lower color. Ten losses and you are left with ten green chips to play in only green level games. You need only one token of ten to be blue to change ALL tokens to the next higher color, say red. Ten losses after attaining your second win and you'll be back down to ten blue tokens...ten more losses and your back down to green.

Each token represents a game that can be played at that color level or lower.

Games are then created based on the hierarchy of color, not points...AND THEY ARE KEPT PRIVATE! No one will know what color your tokens are...they will only see ranks:


2) Show ranks, not points.
Instead of seeing, for example, Rait (8577), let it show Rait (Superior Diplomat). And make these rankings based entirely on WINS and nothing else.

0 wins = political puppet
1 wins = Apprentice
2 wins = Representative
3 wins = Negotiator
4 wins = Statesman
5 wins = Diplomat

Or some such. You could even further break these down into subcategories by using adjectives before the rankings...1 win = Lesser Apprentice, 2 wins = Apprentice, 3 wins = Superior Apprentice....and so on...

Add to this a nifty little color-coded graphic and I believe the dynamic of this game will change from a "I want points" to "I want to win and get my shiny new rank!".

I understand there's a ranking system in place, but as it stands, it's given very little weight.

Keep in mind that once you attain a rank, you can never drop any lower no matter how many games you lose or what color your tokens are.


These are only suggestions and will need some deeper thought as to how it can be improved and/or integrated. And I'm sure Kestas is very busy...perhaps it's even on his to-do list (0.78: Winner-takes-all-games?)

It just seems that every other thread on this forum in some way speaks to the short comings of the point system in relation to "playing to win".

Please discuss...
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yeunghauyip (1654 D)
24 Nov 07 UTC
Uneven random countries picking
I've just realized that I've never played as England here...
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mightyrobot (202 D)
02 Dec 07 UTC
Due Now
I have about 5 games all stuck in "due now"....
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
29 Nov 07 UTC
The Maxims of Smart Jason...please give marks out of 100
Smart Jason's Maxims....by Smart Jason

Contents:

I thik you have al arger crime than I do. You have already been banned for doing multi-accounts for times!!!
When I did repented... I never played more thatn one. It is only your own prejudice... Just ask the Kestas if I have copied names like chairman Mao???
I mean 'well' but not 'when'
Irepented though but Gobble did not
I did repent but Gobble didn't
Well, Gobble said he repent, then how come he is still playint at least two accounts
Have a look there, and you will see...

If you can't find the game,
try to find Jabberwocky through the brothers account arthurmklo or adrianmclo and adrianmclo's second account Chairman Mao...
You guys accused me wrongly when you guys are doing the bad thing...

Now, everyone, if these maxims were a composition by SmartJason how many marks would you give him out of 100?
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