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brainbomb (290 D)
01 Apr 16 UTC
The Counting Thread (Redux)
I'll start.
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Apple Man (100 D)
30 Mar 16 UTC
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butt
butt
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c0dyz (100 D)
01 Apr 16 UTC
question
i have a question
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brainbomb (290 D)
01 Apr 16 UTC
Another Abortion Thread
Because hey, why not?
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Trustworthy Ally ;) (137 D)
31 Mar 16 UTC
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trump vs religion vs abortions vs gays vs racism
Discuss, because you americans love this kind of crap
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c0dyz (100 D)
01 Apr 16 UTC
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I feel this is an urgent matter.
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brainbomb (290 D)
01 Apr 16 UTC
Can I be banned next?
I loves me some delicious slimy pink slime meat. ;) I am also wjessop's multi too.
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Pompeii (638 D)
01 Apr 16 UTC
Donating
How much does one have to donate to receive the various donor status markers on their account? Sorry if this is posted somewhere I just didn't see it.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
01 Apr 16 UTC
Morocco introduces anti-cat calling laws
Do we need these everywhere else?

http://muslimgirl.com/22470/morocco-just-passed-bill-putting-sexual-harassers-jail-6-months/
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DammmmDaniel (100 D)
01 Apr 16 UTC
Why is my username different?????
I used to be dammmdaniel now I'm jmo77755??????? and my rank reset
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wjessop (100 DX)
01 Apr 16 UTC
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Jmo's April Fools
Funny stuff ;)
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
01 Apr 16 UTC
For all the mafia lovers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDpSwl-fJcU
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Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
01 Apr 16 UTC
Any tournaments or invitationals?
Looking to get back into some webdiplomacy.
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LeonWalras (865 D)
01 Apr 16 UTC
Anyone preordering a Tesla Model 3 today?
April 1st seems like a good day to debut an affordable 300 mile range semi autonomous electric car. What could possibly go wrong?
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TheSpider (190 D)
31 Mar 16 UTC
Support Holds not happening.
Has anyone else experienced Support holds that have been set never happening once the game proceeds. It is happening pretty consistently for me and I don't understand. I set support holds and when the game proceeds my units end up simply holding. The support isn't getting broken, the units just aren't doing anything. Am I alone in this? Could this be an error that occurs when using a mobile phone? Someone please help.
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Rhinos (1763 D)
30 Mar 16 UTC
Caspian Sea in Modern Diplomacy Variant
The Caspian Sea: What is it good for? I have never actually seen smeone use it, and the only country that could practically get to itis Egypt by building a fleet on Iran North Coast. Is there actually a situation where it would be useful?
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
30 Mar 16 UTC
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i am going to win the republican presidential nomination
i just thought i would tell you all why i had been away for so long
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
27 Mar 16 UTC
What's a good surname for Rose?
Hi, I'm writing a book and I can't figure out a good surname for this lady called Rose.
Any suggestions?
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
26 Mar 16 UTC
'Brokered conventions'
Reading the wiki entry in brokered primaries in the US presidential election raises some interesting tidbits of history. But also this link:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/boehner-endorses-paul-ryan-for-president-220855

Paul Ryan for President?
orathaic (1009 D(B))
26 Mar 16 UTC
More likely, if Trump and Cruz both fail to win enough delegates to win the nomination outright, how does the party break?

Does Trump threaten to run as a third party candidate and re-unite the party behind him (as he's highly like to win the popular vote, even if he doesn't have enough delegates...)

If the party doesn't nominate Trump, who gets the nomination in the end?

Also, who are the actual delegates who get to decide (once all their pledges are released, it is up to individuals) How are these delegates picked in the first place??
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
26 Mar 16 UTC
They're gonna nominate Trump and focus on holding onto Congress.
KingCyrus (511 D)
26 Mar 16 UTC
Cruz, Trump, and Kasich are obvious choices.

I've heard people pulling for Romney and Ryan.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
26 Mar 16 UTC
So how likely is Trump to win the nomination before the convention?

At the moment he needs 498 delegates out if the remaining 944 (over 50%) and he seems to be winning 40-50% of the votes in some states... Cruz can deny him the nomination (and does forcing a brokered convention help Cruz?)
KingCyrus (511 D)
26 Mar 16 UTC
Forcing a convention helps Cruz because he is less likely than Trump to win without it.
Putin33 (111 D)
26 Mar 16 UTC
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It's really much too late to run as a third party candidate after July or whenever the convention is due to ballot access issues. Plus some states have "sore-loser" laws which prohibit a candidate defeated in a party primary process from doing so. Trump may have a problem in that the actual delegates are chosen in most states by state conventions or state executive committees handpicked by the establishment, with no input from the actual candidate, so loyalties might be suspect. In South Carolina for example in order to be a delegate you have to have been a delegate at the 2015 South Carolina state convention, which took place prior to Trump becoming a candidate. Cruz is shrewd enough to be planning for this is and is keeping his primary/caucus organizations running in states that have already voted and is actively seeking out double-agents within the Trump camp. It's possible the NeverTrumpers manage to stack the deck prior to the actual convention with the Convention Committee on Credentials. Delegates pledged to Trump regardless of their personal wishes have the freedom to vote however they want on these issues, and could theoretically rule to disqualify Trump delegates if contests are challenged.

So I anticipate a whole bunch of shenanigans from the Anti-Trump people unless Trump wins this thing outright.

I don't think Ryan wants to risk his political career being parachuted in illegitimately through a convention heist. Romney on the other hand I think is showing that he is willing to do it.
KingCyrus (511 D)
26 Mar 16 UTC
Ryan will wait 4-8 years. Romney has been beaten twice, I don't see why he can win now.
wjessop (100 DX)
26 Mar 16 UTC
"Romney on the other hand I think is showing that he is willing to do it."

Yes, that's certainly the suggestion/implication in British news media.

Romney is positioning himself, and being positioned by "the establishment" (that frighteningly murky phrase that people seem to find reassuring in contrast to Trump), to be the effective consensus candidate who can replace Trump if and when the time comes.
Putin33 (111 D)
26 Mar 16 UTC
He can't but I think he's calculating he has the least to lose by "saving the party" from Trump and going down to the Democrats.
KingCyrus (511 D)
26 Mar 16 UTC
Thats probably true. In the long run, Romney losing will help the party more than Trump winning.
Putin33 (111 D)
26 Mar 16 UTC
And Romney reactivated his campaign committees a few weeks ago.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
26 Mar 16 UTC
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Romney was a loser in 2012 and he's still a loser in 2016. I don't see why the GOP would put forward a proven loser who doesn't have the same fervor that either of the candidates he'd face (Hillary or Bernie) has, particularly in the face of inevitable backlash from a huge portion of the voter bloc. They'd be throwing the election in the same way that they have by allowing Donald Trump to do what he's done *and* alienating their base at the same time. If they're going to risk alienating so many of their voters, they should at the very least put forward someone who they think can help them recover those voters and potentially win in the general election.

The best thing for them to do is simply let Trump have this one and lick their wounds.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
26 Mar 16 UTC
I think Any other candidate being nominated (and losing) while Trump still runs would destroy the republican party (even if Cruz didn't also run as the 'tea party' candidate... which seems less likely - but not impossible)

@Putin, interesting the hear about these 'sore-loser' laws. Where do i find out more?
orathaic (1009 D(B))
26 Mar 16 UTC
From wiki: "In Michigan, one of the few states where this law applies to presidential elections as well..."

If this is the case, then surely Trump could in fact run (and potentially win a serious number of votes, if not win outright) if not nominated... (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sore-loser_law )

Having thought this through, i suspect i agree with Bo sox on this one.

The only question is, can the republican party survive, or is it splitting itself apart as we speak?
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
26 Mar 16 UTC
The Republican Party has been dead since Reagan took it over. Its roots were lost in the 1980s.

To answer your actual question, yes, it can survive, but not in the same capacity as it exists now. It is going to have to adapt. They are going to have to make the establishment label on their party disappear. Backing Trump, while it may make it painful for 4 or 8 years if he wins, is a good way to do that, and if he manages to lose, which I think he will, in the general election, then it's only a few months of cringing and biting their lip before it's back to business as usual rejecting anything and everything that the elected by-the-people Democratic president proposes.
leon1122 (190 D)
26 Mar 16 UTC
Cruz doesn't want a brokered convention either.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/271875-cruz-brokered-convention-would-lead-to-voter-revolt
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
26 Mar 16 UTC
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I don't think Cruz has a problem doing things that should theoretically lead to a voter revolt. He did, after all, shut down the entire government.
Putin33 (111 D)
26 Mar 16 UTC
Cruz was against a brokered convention before he was for it.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/ted-cruz-brokered-convention/2016/03/13/id/718873/
Putin33 (111 D)
26 Mar 16 UTC
I mean the GOP political class wasn't going all-in for Cruz back on March 6, since then we've had clothespin 'endorsements' from the likes of Lindsey Graham and Jeb Bush.
Cruz doesn't have a snowball's chance in Orlando, FL if it goes to the convention, because he's pretty universally recognized as the biggest gaping asshole in the Republican Party. If the Republicans are going to spite their own voters and not select as nominee the guy who won the most delegates, they sure as shit aren't going to do it for Ted Cruz, who leads them into every bit of the electoral debacle that Trump leads them into.
JECE (1253 D)
26 Mar 16 UTC
orathaic: "At the moment he needs 498 delegates out if the remaining 944 (over 50%) and he seems to be winning 40-50% of the votes in some states... Cruz can deny him the nomination"

Several of the remaining Republican primaries are winner-take-all. If most of those go for Trump, then it doesn't matter that he wins by 40%–50% of the vote.
Putin33 (111 D)
26 Mar 16 UTC
Of the winner take alls Trump will likely take NJ, WV, and DE for a total of 101 delegates. Cruz will likely take MT, NE, and SD for 92 delegates. States like OR, WA, and NM will be evenly split. It's going to be tough for Trump to get to the magic number, he needs to win WI, IN, and PA.
Octavious (2802 D)
26 Mar 16 UTC
Is there a site that shows the remaining states, delegates that can be won from them, and an explanation of the rules for winning in those states? A basic table could explain it all easily and would be extremely useful, but all the media coverage I've seen focuses only on what happens a week or two ahead. It's almost as if the media is intentionally making the process as murky as possible.
Putin33 (111 D)
26 Mar 16 UTC
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http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/assessing-trumps-path-to-1237/
orathaic (1009 D(B))
26 Mar 16 UTC
@Octavious: i've been reading wikipedia, it has a lot of this information, though not as succinctly as you are describing.
Octavious (2802 D)
26 Mar 16 UTC
Putin's link is actually really quite helpful. I'm not a big fan of Wikipedia in this as every time I go on it I gain an understanding that turns out to be wrong :p

@Octavious

The place to look is The Green Papers. (http://www.thegreenpapers.com/). It's extremely detailed and seems to be quite credible. Larry Sabato's folks at UVA (Putin's link) and Nate Silver and his group (fivethirtyeight.com) both use it.

The downside is that it's a bit disorganized and not always easy to find exactly what you're looking for. But here are the most useful links for what you asked about:

For the Democrats: http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/D-PU.phtml
For the Republicans: http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/R-PU.phtml
nide1225 (517 D)
30 Mar 16 UTC
@Octavious

Definitely check out the 538 blog. They have a primary tracker that shows their predicted targets by state and date for the remaining primaries. They have lots of good information there
Putin33 (111 D)
30 Mar 16 UTC
Just don't pay attention to their analysis.


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Broosevelt (100 D)
28 Mar 16 UTC
N00b classic
Hey I want to play my first game of diplomacy - my friend taught me so he will be in the game but am looking for other new players to get the hang of it :)
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brainbomb (290 D)
28 Mar 16 UTC
Who wants to play webdip with me?
So Ive decided I wanna play a fall of American empire game. With press. whos interested.
?
Itd be 2 days/move
10 point buy in.
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Amwidkle (3866 D)
22 Mar 16 UTC
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"2016" -- EoG thread
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Smokey Gem (154 D)
28 Mar 16 UTC
Gun Lobby
Why do the gun lobby search people , detectors ect , at their conferences don't they trust people with guns ??
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GangAhJi (100 D)
27 Mar 16 UTC
Is it possible to hit Moscow from St.Petersburg with fleet?
Hi, playing webDiplomacy.
I want to ask if it's possible to hit Moscow from St.Petersburg with fleet, not land army
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
27 Mar 16 UTC
How different would the primaries be...
... if all the results were not published until after all states have voted?
Would that be good or bad?
I'm thinking it might lead to less people ending their campaigns early and more people voting for whoever they believe in, rather than voting strategically. It may also take away some media power.
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Bob Genghiskhan (1238 D)
26 Mar 16 UTC
Why is every league in European football taking off this week?
Why are national teams playing friendlies at the end of March instead of continued league play?
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ThatCrazyGuy (672 D)
26 Mar 16 UTC
New game - Bring It!
101 D/36hour phases/ModernDip/Gunboat/DrawSizeScoring/Anon/90RR
gameID=176688
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
27 Mar 16 UTC
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he is risen
as above below
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
21 Mar 16 UTC
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Feature Request
Hey,

Can you all (staff?) please add a (configurable) feature to provide the option to prevent game rejoins?
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
27 Mar 16 UTC
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Boston House Game pictures
http://imgur.com/a/zx70H

I ordered
LVP-NWY, NTH c LVP-NWY in the Fall of 1901.
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