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Jamiet99uk (873 D)
11 Mar 13 UTC
Statism
I was recently asked why I'm a statist...
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
11 Mar 13 UTC
Being Pope Was Great, But You Can't Play Make-Believe Forever
By Pope Benedict XIV
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
10 Mar 13 UTC
Who really cares?
Could it be that no matter what we say about world problems, the fact that nothing is ever done about them is due to our own lack of antipathy or indifference towards these issues.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
06 Mar 13 UTC
COTY Awards
Keep this thread going till December and we can have a genuine panel vote...

Post your early front runners.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
11 Mar 13 UTC
An Alternative to Simcity in the Works
If anyone was as disappointed as I was about EA's botched Simcity job, you may be interested to know there is a indie game in the works that looks very promising. More info here:
http://tinyurl.com/bk3a3cc
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
10 Mar 13 UTC
Total War games
Anyone plays them? I´ve got Rome (with Extended Realism mod), Empire and Napoleon.

Do you like them? Why? Which one? Discuss. Also, if anyone´s interested in a multiplayer campaign say so.
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blankflag (0 DX)
11 Mar 13 UTC
who has 25mins to waste?
25mins on *press tv* drone debate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-TxIsc_qfQ
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Maniac (189 D(B))
09 Mar 13 UTC
Poker challenge
I'm thinking of setting up a diplomacy players poker tournament. The idea is that we all 'donate' our buy in to Kestas and then he redistributes the cash based on the result of the poker challenge. We will then play a tournament online. I haven't spoken to Kestas until I know we have enough interest.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
10 Mar 13 UTC
Open Books and Minds--What Would You Want YOUR Kids Taught?
I've debated this with friends before, but I'll raise the question here--generally (for US Lit, anyway) colleges split it into 2 core classes (often Pre and Post-Reconstruction), with mostly white, male authors and a bit of representation from others, and justify it by saying "Hey, you can go take the African-American Lit class and read Langston Hughes THERE." Why not have 3 US Lit classes, teach everyone, and INTEGRATE Minorities, make it just US Lit all-around?
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jimgov (219 D(B))
10 Mar 13 UTC
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What this site really needs
When I hear the ramblings of some people on this forum, it occurs to me that we could add something that, I think, wouldn't be very difficult and, at the same time, be very useful. In short, we need a -1 option. That way, some of the lunatics could really see how we feel about them. Then maybe, once you hit a predetermined number, -10 or -100 or whatever, you are temporarily banned from posting your bullshit.
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Tom Bombadil (4023 D(G))
11 Mar 13 UTC
Hey Science Geeks!
For a quite silly class assignment in my 100 level environmental science class I need to find an advertisement or news story that misuses scientific concepts or misuses statistics. I've been searching but thought that maybe someone here has an example that they already know about and would be willing to pass along to me.
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Jamiet99uk (873 D)
06 Mar 13 UTC
Syria
So, today the British government has announced £millions worth of support for the rebels in Syria, including military equipment such as vehicles and body armour (but not arms). What does the forum think of this decision? Good idea? Bad idea? Justified or illegal intervention?
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EightfoldWay (2115 D)
10 Mar 13 UTC
What happens in a game if *everyone* CDs?
Because it looks like it's about to happen in about a week: gameID=110331

Seriously, what the actual fuck.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
10 Mar 13 UTC
Concentration v. Internment Camp
There is a definitional difference, but is there a difference in the whole between concentration and internment camps? Internment camps treat people more humanely, but is the punishment the same? Is the end result the same - in other words, is a loss of dignity and chattel equally present in both?
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
09 Mar 13 UTC
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Can you ask someone who's not your girlfriend to marry you?
I'm a little drunk, but hear me out.
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fulhamish (4134 D)
10 Mar 13 UTC
Wealth inequality in America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM

An obsceniy or not? No wonder the video has millions of hits. ''All we need to do is wake up and realise that the reality in this country (world) is not at all what we think it is.''
steephie22 (182 D(S))
10 Mar 13 UTC
What an original topic.
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
10 Mar 13 UTC
You ever been to India?
You want to see inequality in wealth, health, justice, human rights, etc, etc.
In comparison to many places in the world America is a fabulous land of opportunity in many ways and for a multitude of reasons but because it is a nation of 'strivers' it tends to focus on the negatives.
If only the USA could stop confusing themselves and everybody else with a pig ignorant foreign policy the world would be a better place, and so would the USA.
I == G-Sim (283 D)
10 Mar 13 UTC
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I just spent 6:24 seconds of my life watching your video. It's funny what people think "Average Americans" do for a living. Its very simple to understand why the bottom 40% of Americans are so poor. 8-10% of them are unemployed, quite a few of us are students, and the rest are somewhere between lazy and stupid (in other words working less than 40 hours a week for minimum wage). This topic is blown out of proportion constantly because of our free speech, but it really is not a problem. If you want to see a problem, look at the distribution in some of the middle eastern countries where the only way to make money is to own oil companies. Or China, because even though most of them are dirt poor, they have to work in terrible environments just to feed themselves because the Chinese government doesn't give handouts like we do. The USA is capitalist, if you don't like where you are on the damn chart, fix yourself and stop bitching about it to the world.
steephie22 (182 D(S))
10 Mar 13 UTC
Exactly.
blankflag (0 DX)
10 Mar 13 UTC
ahaha.... when the distribution is that bad there is no way you can blame it on laziness or whatever you think it is. people havent become more lazy in this past generation. i will tell you a secret of life people do not change. when mcdonalds has a job fair and a hundred thousand people show up looking for work, that is a sign that there is something wrong with the economy. and i knew some people who had a lot of money and some people with very little money and i can tell you there is not too much of a difference in terms of laziness.

what do you mean by capitalist? usa may be capitalist but it is in no way a free market. there is a monopoly on the creation of money and the government controls the economy to a massive extent.

i dont think the original poster was saying usa is the worst country in the world. this is happening everywhere. i dont know where you people are thinking that things are fine in america because they are not.
fulhamish (4134 D)
10 Mar 13 UTC
Well I was expecting a challenge to the presented wealth (note not income) figures themselves, rather than a vigorous defence of the new, relatively recently imposed , status quo. Interesting and revealing.
fulhamish (4134 D)
10 Mar 13 UTC
No, it wasn't an attack on the USA alone. Note the amended direct quote from the clip where I inserted the word 'world' in a bracket.
steephie22 (182 D(S))
10 Mar 13 UTC
how does mcdonalds not qualify as "stupid or lazy"?
blankflag (0 DX)
10 Mar 13 UTC
so people who are so desperate that they would line up for hours in the dim hope of landing a mcdonalds job are stupid and lazy. yes that makes sense. everyone knows working at mcdonalds is so easy that you would have to be truly lazy to do it. nobody willing to work hard would ever get a job there.
blankflag (0 DX)
10 Mar 13 UTC
maybe i can explain it to you in a way you would better understand. there is a certain number of jobs the economy needs. if some people destroy the economy then that number is lower than when they are creating a bubble. right now about half of people who can work in america are. that 8% figure is for people actively going to the unemployment office, (and there are even more restrictions than that) which is much lower. if someone gets a job in an economy with a stable demand for employment, he typically has to take it from someone else.

there is no unlimited supply of jobs out there.

and at what point do you think people who do not have jobs are lazy? what about if it gets to a point where 20% of women are prostitutes? or 75% of people who can work are not working? if you hold this rigid belief that if someone isnt working its his own fault then you are holding a really high bar. what if there were only one job in the country and everybody ran a marathon and the fastest person got the job. would you then say, oh everyone else is just lazy or weak or stupid, since they couldnt get the job but clearly had a chance to get it?
goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
10 Mar 13 UTC
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What I have a problem with is that this article measures wealth and not income. Of course the wealthiest 1% would have most of the wealth in the country. Hell, their cars are worth more than most American's houses. Wealth includes stocks, property, inheritance. A more appropriate measure would be income inequality, which I have a feeling would not be as severe a gap as wealth inequality.
steephie22 (182 D(S))
10 Mar 13 UTC
If there's no road you build one. If you can't get a job you create one.
With a lot of unemployed people it shouldn't be too hard to get something off the ground.
I know there are exceptions but almost everyone in the United States has a chance to make a living.

To give an example, if, like you said, the whole country was running a marathon to win the last job, I'd sell bottles of water on the sideline. Since it doesn't take a genius to think of that, most of the other people are apparently lazy or stupid. And if you can't find a job you go to another country. People in countries where there is an actual problem don't have that choice.
blankflag (0 DX)
10 Mar 13 UTC
you are dodging the question. sell water to whom? so now you are arguing my point that the number of jobs is basically static given certain economic conditions? if nobody has money to buy water then there will be no jobs to sell water. if the people with wealth do not want your water then you cannot get paid selling water. the only service i can see that the wealthy will always want is prostitution.

basically if all assets are owned by a very few then the number of jobs is dictated by those few. if they decide they dont want new yatchs one year then the economy loses all those jobs. people keep thinking that jobs will just appear out of nowhere, but you need someone to buy your service that you are selling. that someone needs money to spend and has to want to spend it on your service.
blankflag (0 DX)
10 Mar 13 UTC
people only have so much money to spend. so if you get a job doing something, selling water, it will take the money from those people that they would have otherwise used on something else, so it is another example of taking a job from someone else. the economy is controlled by the banks, basically, because they control the amount of money. if they restrict how much money people have, then there will be less money for people to spend, so less jobs like water selling.

then there is this theory that its ok because the government can beg the banks to make more money by borrowing money from the banks promising to pay it back at interest with future taxes from the people.

but at this point the government cant even continue borrowing all this money. so you dont have money in the hands of the people.

but actually when the government is borrowing money it then gives it to giant corporations and banks. so the people again do not get the money. and then the government raises the taxes on the people further, taking even more money from the real economy.

it is ridiculous how seriously they are restricting the money supply to destroy the economy. anyway bottom line less jobs are possible. it is impossible to have full employment given our current economic conditions unless bankers decided to start spending all the money they have hoarded which they are not.
steephie22 (182 D(S))
10 Mar 13 UTC
I don't see the question I dodged, honestly, but doesn't matter, I'll answer the last 2.

Sell water to the runners who can pay for it. Most of them can. The ones who can't die unless charities help them. Sounds harsh but that's just how it goes.
The only point I see you making is that the worst case scenario sucks. Of course it does, but America is nowhere close to that. Everything's okay, except for the lazy and the stupid.

If you really can't create any jobs, which is a very hypothetical situation that has nothing to do with America, you could go to other countries where they have jobs, or supply yourself. The only reason no one does that is because there are jobs.

So yes, hypothetically, you're right, but in practice, almost no one has nothing in the United States. If you have nothing and don't get anything you die in a few days. That's not happening a lot in the United States, if at all. I understand your theory but it's just not happening.
steephie22 (182 D(S))
10 Mar 13 UTC
Forgot to refresh and you made another post before I replied, so I'll reply to that too.

If banks hold on to money forever that money is in practice not in circulation. It just causes deflation, and since there's pretty much always inflation it clearly doesn't have a huge impact on anything.
steephie22 (182 D(S))
10 Mar 13 UTC
Meaning less money doesn't change anything, since you can still buy the same stuff. The banks get richer because of that but as long as they don't spend it it doesn't matter a lot.


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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
08 Mar 13 UTC
What if Women ruled the world?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-21661744
The very subject I have been thinking about for a little while now...... could the world be a safer happy place if we replaced men in senior positions with women
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Sbyvl36 (439 D)
09 Mar 13 UTC
Lindsay Graham is Finished.
After being one of the few people to oppose Rand Paul's filibuster, I would like to say that Lindsay Graham is done. In South Carolina, Republicans favor "Someone more Conservative" than Graham by 25 D. So we will be finally rid of this NBC-loving Snake in the Grass.
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blankflag (0 DX)
10 Mar 13 UTC
which diet is best
so between the far northern aboriginal diet and the hip new banana diet, which will result in faster death?
people who lived in the far north would just eat raw fish with nothing else. cool kids today are eating basically bananas with little else. which of the two is better? that far-north diet lasted for thousands of years so it has kind of been tested. i am not sure if any culture has ever survived on pretty much all fruit, so i am thinking the all meat diet is probably healthier.
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Crazy Anglican (1067 D)
10 Mar 13 UTC
Saturday night
I've had a 750ml bottle of Three Philosophers AND my daughter asked me to help her with her argumentative writing paper.
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Pjman (0 DX)
10 Mar 13 UTC
Joining games
People DO NOT let me say it again DO not join a game and then say you can't play at the begging. If you can't dont join!!! Once again join games you know your going to be able to finish... Thanks
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Jamiet99uk (873 D)
09 Mar 13 UTC
France invades UK
French naval and amhibious forces have launched an invasion of the UK. What shall we do?
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jimgov (219 D(B))
10 Mar 13 UTC
EOG for Bored on Saturday Game
Well...congratulations Gen Lee. You played a great game.

As for ukulelemike...I can't understand how you could just give that game away. And you did give that game away. Actively.
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jpribe (1009 D)
10 Mar 13 UTC
If any mods are online, please check your email
Thanks! (and my apologies if it isn't proper protocol to post a thread saying this)
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
09 Mar 13 UTC
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ADVERTISE your gf here and here only thread
I'm a little drunk and dyslexic, but here me out. I am very socially awkward, but I was wondering if it's okay to get some sex under the pretense that I will ask a girl to marry me in front of my boyfriend. If you have a gf who is willing to do this, please post it here. I know it's not Craiglist or anything, but there are a lot of weirdos on this site.
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
07 Mar 13 UTC
Worst pokerhand? (pre-flop)
I'm thinking a 2 and a 3 of different colours with a small group and a pair of 2's in a big group... How about you guys?
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2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
09 Mar 13 UTC
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Elephant Ivory Challenge
I'm thinking of setting up a diplomacy players ivory tournament. The idea is that we all 'donate' our dead elephants to kestas and then he redistributes the cash based on the result of a cockfight tournament. I haven't spoken to kestas until I know we have enough interest.
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
07 Mar 13 UTC
The West Wing
Who else is a fan?
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blankflag (0 DX)
09 Mar 13 UTC
the elites intentionally collapsed the market thread
what evidence do people have that the elites intentionally crashed the market for fun and profit. i have a couple points but maybe you people have more.
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Thomas Olai (599 D)
08 Mar 13 UTC
pause and unpaue
Apologies if this have been covered elsewhere, but how do we unpause a game that have been paused?
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