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dontbcruel (175

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14 Apr 10 UTC

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Ancient Game Going

Really have wanted to mix up the map. Come play.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26697

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13 Apr 10 UTC

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Spot the liar...

Michael Howard or David Cameron (See inside)

Maniac (189 )
13 Apr 10 UTC

"The British people should feel confident that they can get on with
their lives while their Government concentrates on tackling the
practical problems which matter to them." Michael Howard 2005

At a launch event at Battersea power station, the Tory leader [David Cameron] said that politicians for the last 40 years had perpetuated the "lie" that Westminster politicians could bring change on their own. 2010

Was Michael Howard lying to me in 2005? Or is David Cameron lying to me now?

Stukus (2126 )
13 Apr 10 UTC

I would say Michael Howard was.

Jamiet99uk (873 )
13 Apr 10 UTC

Why did Howard say that? He was part of the opposition, not the government, in 2005.

Octavious (2701 )
13 Apr 10 UTC

Do those statements really contradict each other? I'm sure Howard and Cameron both have been guilty of far more important deceptions than the possible one here. I know that Brown certainly has.

Maniac (189 )
14 Apr 10 UTC

@Jamie - Howard said it in his manifesto of 2006. He wanted to lead a government that would change things whilst people got on with their lives.

TheGhostmaker (1545 )
14 Apr 10 UTC

I'm pretty sure almost everyone agrees that Thatcher/Reagan brought change. The question remains whether or not it was good change.

Jamiet99uk (873 )
14 Apr 10 UTC

In Thatcher's case it was definitely a negative change. Tens of thousands of people changed from having jobs to being unemployed.

phantom420 (100 )
14 Apr 10 UTC

join "The Big Cheese"!!!!!

TheGhostmaker (1545 )
14 Apr 10 UTC

Jobs in industries that we're going bust anyway, Jamiet. No-one was describing Britain as the sick man of Europe in 1990, no Winter of discontent.

Anyway, I haven't the time or energy to start another debate about Thatcher, the point that she achieved change doesn't demand it.

Jamiet99uk (873 )
14 Apr 10 UTC

"Jobs in industries that we're going bust anyway, Jamiet"

Wrong. I'm talking about people who were working in coal mines and shipyards that were productive and profitable when Thatcher shut them down.

Maniac (189 )
14 Apr 10 UTC

@Jamiet - I'm no fan of Thatcher, trust me. But no-one closes productive and profitable businesses.

@Ghost - Thatcher said, "Where there is discord, may we bring harmony. Where there is error, may we bring truth. Where there is doubt, may we bring faith. And where there is despair, may we bring hope" Do you think that she was just peddling a lie as Cameron seems to be suggesting all the politicains in the last 40 years did.

TheGhostmaker (1545 )
14 Apr 10 UTC

@Maniac, I don't think that that was an appropriate thing for Thatcher to quote, it wasn't what she was about.

However, I don't think that she didn't really change the nature of Britain.

Regarding the original post, why can't it be a legitimate difference of opinion between Cameron and Howard?

Jamiet99uk (873 )
14 Apr 10 UTC

@ TGM: "why can't it be a legitimate difference of opinion between Cameron and Howard?"

It could be. But this nonetheless implies that by saying "politicians for the last 40 years had perpetuated the lie..." Cameron is accusing Michael Howard (and indeed Thatcher and Major and every other Tory leader for the last 40 years) of lying.

TheGhostmaker (1545 )
14 Apr 10 UTC

Also, Cameron was saying that no politician could solve *all* the problems *by himself*. The idea is that you enable the people to solve them themselves. It is a different idea to Howard's, but it is a difference of opinion, not a matter of one or other of them lying.

Maniac (189 )
14 Apr 10 UTC

@Ghost - If Cameron wasn't calling Howard, Thatcher and Major liars, who was he referring to?

TheGhostmaker (1545 )
14 Apr 10 UTC

Ok

Cameron was calling them liars.
I do not think they were not lying, even though they may have been wrong to think that they can change things.
So Cameron was wrong.

Simples

Maniac (189 )
14 Apr 10 UTC

@Ghost - understood, strange that Cameron should think he could win an election by caslling all his predecessors liars.

Acosmist (0 )
14 Apr 10 UTC

"I'm talking about people who were working in coal mines and shipyards that were productive and profitable when Thatcher shut them down."

really? coal mines? lol

TheGhostmaker (1545 )
14 Apr 10 UTC

They made a lot of money during the strikes, don't you know?

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14 Apr 10 UTC

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Do ghost ratings take into account a difference between press and no press?

I am just wondering if ghost ratings take into account different types of games? I have only played gunboat or public press games on here, simply because of time constraints/internet access issues. However, it occurred to me that the gunboat vs. regular are so totally different games that maybe there should be two different ratings systems.

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`ZaZaMaRaNDaBo` (1922

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14 Apr 10 UTC

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gameID=26686

A new live gunboat game for you addicts out there.

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13 Apr 10 UTC

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Your Ideal Woman, Man, &c.

How would you describe your perfect partner?

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new live gunboat

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14 Apr 10 UTC

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LIVE GAME

Anybody up for ???

gameID=26678

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14 Apr 10 UTC

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live gunboat

in a little over an hour: gameID=26672

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Thucydides (864

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13 Apr 10 UTC

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What if God killed himself?

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14 Apr 10 UTC

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What Happens If A Game Doesn't Get Filled?

First time creating a game, gave it 5 days for people to join, at the moment it looks like it might not quite be full at the start time.

What would happen once the start time is reached?

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06 Apr 10 UTC

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Goondip Chaos Games

Chaos is a variant of diplomacy in which each SC of the original diplomacy map is occupied by a different player, who must use clever diplomacy with loads of other players to create a situation in which they are the one to advance.

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14 Apr 10 UTC

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Live (5min) Gunboat in an hour

1 hour
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26658

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14 Apr 10 UTC

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War is hell...LIVE

gameID=26670

Lets have some fun here

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14 Apr 10 UTC

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Live (5min) Gunboat in 30mins

http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26666

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shadowlurker (108

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14 Apr 10 UTC

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12 hour game

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phantom420 (100

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14 Apr 10 UTC

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JOIN "The Big Cheese" NOW!!!!

We need ppl to play join up!

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14 Apr 10 UTC

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live game

does anyone want to play one right now? gunboat, preferably.

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13 Apr 10 UTC

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The Return of MEL, from 1980...

You forgot to ban doofman, thats another one of my account(s).

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obiwanobiwan (248

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12 Apr 10 UTC

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Today On The Philosopher's Corner: Kant's Categorical vs. Mill's Action-and-Utility

I LOVE Philosophy. And I LOVE my Philosophy of Ethics class in the college I go to- the class is active and actually inquisitive, great material, and the professor's hilarious, engaging, and sharp, Dr. Zhu. (THICK accent.) In our class, every session there's a showdown: its obiwanobiwan vs. The Cop (both of us share the actual real name.) I champion Mill, and ACT Utilitarianism. The Cop, being used to strictness and cold law, LOVES Kant. Categorical vs. Utility?

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14 Apr 10 UTC

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Another gunboat game

in 20 min gameID=26636

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12 Apr 10 UTC

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Interesting Gunboat to watch and enjoy.

gameID=16346 - I won't comment as it is an ongoing game and would appreciate it if none of you did beyond the basic "Nice move by ___ in ___" kind of thing. We are in Fall 13 with 6 nations still fighting hard.

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14 Apr 10 UTC

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Gunboat game

live in 20 min. gameID=26637

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13 Apr 10 UTC

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Hall of Fame Gunboat.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26452
I invited 15 players above me in the Hall of Fame. 3 have joined.
If you want to play in this game post here or PM me for password.
Top players will get in first.

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13 Apr 10 UTC

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Live wta gunboat

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S.E. Peterson (100

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14 Apr 10 UTC

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WTA Live Gunboat in 1 hour (30 pt bet)

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26629

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yamchagoku1 (161

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13 Apr 10 UTC

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LIVE Ancient Med Game starting in 30 min!

Self explanatory
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26624
Join here and get in on the fun!

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13 Apr 10 UTC

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Live game, 10:30 PM (GMT)

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26620

3 more :)

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11 Apr 10 UTC

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Top 20 Ghost Rating Game

This will be first come first served, I'll send the info to each in a PM, join if you'd like. If we can't get it started in a week, I'll open it up to the top 50.

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13 Apr 10 UTC

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Javascript Timeouts when entering orders on World Variant

I am not entirely sure where this goes, so if I am posting in the wrong spot, please redirect me. In a world variant in which I am playing (http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=20858), when I (and it appears others) try to either convoy an army or move an army that borders the sea, entering the final combo box of the order takes a very long time and I recently had to click the "No" button to allow Internet Explorer to continue around 16-18 times per order to get them to "stick".

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13 Apr 10 UTC

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So....

I think I'm starting to suffer from game exhaustion. Any ideas on how I can counterract this?

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