If you agreed to the time limit at the beginning, then you're bound by it now.

I've been on both ends of that situation. and I know it sucks. =/ but you're stuck with it because you agreed to that phase length when you joined.

I have a perfect solution to your problem.

Join our game - it's super fast. C'mon...

Complaining on the forum is much more unsportsmanlike.

If only there was a way to choose the length of each turn before joining...oh, wait...

Yes but once a team starts winning, every other team just delays the inevitable

Team? Who's really the noob?

Yes, me and France got tired of fighting a stalemate and decided to team up and we believed that together we could kill everyone. We were right

You may have an alliance, KD, but you aren't a team. Alliances can be broken, teams aren't. When your "teammate" as you would call him stabs you, just remember he knew it was just a temporary alliance on the way to a solo.

Draugnar, not everyone stabs each other. I believe the best strategy is a small trustworthy team. Granted, you don't bring any of this into a new game. I have been through multiple games with game long alliances. That is why the game is called 'Diplomacy', not 'Everyone is forced to stab each other non-stop and repeat the same strategy over and over again'

This thread fails.

But a true team has no fear of a stab because there is nothing to stab. There will always be uncertainty in even the best game-long alliance, which means it is an alliance, not a team, and alliances can be broken (not have to be, as your straw man argument indicates).

Knights Dawn, I suggest you look at some game histories of people getting solos before you start saying you have to "repeat the same strategy over and over again" to win, and that "Everyone is forced to stab each other non-stop".

I think KD indicated his general ignorance of diplomacy strategy and etiquette when he posted about an ongoing game.

The word "team" really shouldn't have been that much of a surprise.

/fail

You've got 4 choices in a diplomacy game:
Ally with another "teamster" who therefore is a complete newbie, will never have won a game, and therefore results in your alliance having the tactical skill of a dead slug. (p.s. as you get into higher points games this option will become more and more impossible)
Not trust anyone at all because they "stab each other non stop" and therefore force your neighbours into an alliance against you.
Ally with a good player, act like he's a member of your "team", and whinge on the forum when he stabs you.
Get over your "teams", learn how to guard yourself against an ally, accept the brilliance of your opponent's stabs and get some good ones in yourself, and enjoy the game of Diplomacy.

teamster aka Epic FAIL!!!!!!

Thanks to OMGNSO for putting this confusing problem into the language of "the Teamster" so that all the newbs can understand ;)

I agree with the general sentiment that KD still has a lot to learn regarding the game of Diplomacy.

I don't, however, like the general "U noobzor, us roxxorz, epic FAIL, leet" tone of some of the answers.

This is not WoW, our attitude towards the new players and their understanding of the game should be different.

Xapi +1

Xapi + NaN

csana, careful with your numbers, they're overflowing.

Thats true Xapi.

@ KD i apologize for my statements.

doh, overflowing numbers!!! someone should have used a long or double instead of an int. variable declaration is such a pain in the neck when youre debugging and not getting the desired result.

@TN - I once wrote a long mathematics program that could process the basics up to a result with 64000 digits. I used string manipulation and bit shifting to do the math. Just did it cause I wanted to. The end result wasn't as fast as the processor doing the math, but was still pretty good. Don't think I'd want to try advanced mathematics though.

At Xapi: Hey I resent that being a player of WoW not all of us hate new players. Many of us help out new players when they ask for help and if we see another playing struggling we help them.

At the actual topic: Who cares you have already won... What does it matter that it will take a couple more days to win.

"At Xapi: Hey I resent that being a player of WoW not all of us hate new players. Many of us help out new players when they ask for help and if we see another playing struggling we help them."

I don't know how new WoW players are treated, I never played it. I do know the sort of lingo many players use, things like "n00bzorz" and "pwnage", and they are used in a demeaining way, I'm given to understand.

Also, I aim to the vast mayority of the community here being helpful to newcomers, not just "Many of us" or "not all of us hate new players".

If a guy is new and is mistaken in a way, I'd like him to find 9 helpful users out of every ten, how does that ratio work out in WoW?