i used to play risk at dominategame.com, but very rarely since i discovered diplomacy. risk is good when you need a quick fix

I still want to find a good place to play Axis & allies, without downloading anything.

yeah I'd love to find somewhere to play Akis Allies....I used to hvae a pc game but it only worked on like windows 98 or something and you couldn't do live multi-player. if youre looking for a good Risk sight go to Denizengames.com . They have a bunch of variant maps aswell which makes things interesting.

There is a free axis and allies download at http://triplea.sourceforge.net/mywiki, but I don't know of any web-based one. That would be awesome.

http://acts.warhorsesim.com/

Games Available:

Age of Renaissance
Barbarossa to Berlin
Blue vs. Gray
Empire of the Sun
Epic of the Peloponnesian War
Fistful of Planets
For the People
Generic Module
Hammer of the Scots
Hannibal
Here I Stand
LOTR: The Confrontation
March Madness
Napoleonic Wars
Paths of Glory
Republic of Rome
Shifting Sands
Successors
Sword of Rome
Thirty Years War
Titan
Twilight Struggle
We the People
Wilderness War

Please note that ownership of the games is required. ACTS is not intended to be a complete "game referee"; it knows very little about the rules of the games, and management of the game outside the decks of cards is left to the players.

Why don't one of you make a version of A&A then? I don't know it but it can't be too hard...

Wow, I haven't played A&A since I was 9 or 10... heh. I was going to say the rulebook is pretty thick, but I'm relying on a memory from 30 years ago...

I ended up here, coming back to Diplomacy, after a few friends and I decided to try to find some online strategy games. There really aren't any, that are any good, that I've been able to find. I knew Dip and they didn't, but I talked them into it, and now every day is a series of epic battles, LOL.

That's a brilliant idea, figle. Anyone up to it?

I'd do it...but I have no idea how to program anything.

if I could provide information regarding it or anything that you can think of that doesn't invovle coding i can do it.

Alas, I'm with jman. My expertise lies elsewhere than coding. Maybe if I find the time to just pick it up...

Sadly, I'm the same as you guys...

if only Apple made some super easy coding program......

Well, in all seriousness, (and to someone who knows) how hard is it to learn to code php? Is that a good basic language to start with?

I mean, the last time I programed, I was 8 and it was with BASIC. Really.

I always loved a good game of Rise and Decline of the Third Reich.

There is a site to play it free...againist AI

Better than nothing, is it site-based?

Would the non-programing types be interested in donating money? Money could be given to computer programmers for completing projects such as online A&A, phpdiplomacy variants, maintaining the site, etc.

A web-based Axis and Allies multiplayer client would, in all likelihood, make me jizz myself. :V

I've got a friend who could probably do it......I'm not sure how much he'd charge though.

I am truly interested in learning the basics of programming. So, seriously, what's the "hip" programming language the kids use these days?

I don't really know......php? lol thats what facebook is written in. but personally I'm not sure how good it is as far as security and speed.

I have a mac at home, and have thought about learning to use xcode. Oh well, maybe I'll give it a shot, but any suggestions would be most appreciated.

well macs are better in every area of life...I just didn't know what type of coding macs used.

I'll hold my tongue about my frustrations with Apple's software offerings and constant (and expensive) OS updates, lest the rabid MAColytes begin flaming me... :P

hahahahahaha, MAColytes. lol

www.gametableonline.com for A&A

hammer of the scots is freaking awesome. I own the game and have gotten about 12 plays out of it so far.

I also own Here I Stand but haven't been able to get that one to the table yet.

Another recommendation would be A Game of Thrones. Very similar to diplomacy in many ways but plays in about 4-5 hours.

New post Sent from: groverloaf (168 ) Sent: 07:43 PM
I am truly interested in learning the basics of programming. So, seriously, what's the "hip" programming language the kids use these days?

Depends what you're programming for and what things you really "need"... all languages are probably capable of being used for nearly any purpose (esp. if it's Turing-complete).

PHP is a web scripting language, the output of which is anything that can go on a web page. It also allows for calculations and things like that, of course. Web sessions are generally considered "stateless", meaning any information you gather from the user on one page is lost on the next, so you would also need some kind of database to store data persistently. Thus, PHP/MySQL is a good combination, and one the site uses, if you're making a game that can have an architecture involving multiple page loads.

Most other games, however, have live graphics (to some extent), and so you can't rely on a language that just generates HTML. Instead, the application itself must be dynamic. On web pages, most people use either Flash (preferred, from what I've seen) or Java to do this.

On the other hand, you get some advantages with a desktop application, especially in terms of if the application is large (which would make a web app take forever to learn); those are done commonly in C, C++, Java, maybe C#/VB.NET if you're designing for Windows.

All I've said so far is severely oversimplified... sorry. :-) What I'm trying to say is, sorry, but there is no simple answer to the question of what is a "hip" or easy language to learn, or what's most useful for a game, or what.

If you truly want to learn to program, you should just pick a language, download a compiler or interpreter, find a tutorial, and just CODE! You know? I recommend starting with C, C++, or Java, and just writing console apps, things like "guess the number", maybe tic-tac-toe using ASCII art to print the board... etc., until you learn control flow and the basics of design. Then you can learn a graphics library for your language, or else switch to something else to broaden your knowledge.

I can post links later.

I'll be the curmudgeon here. Building and deploying a site, designing, creating, using, and maintaining the database behind it, planning and writing all the code for the game itself, dealing with not-fun stuff like user registration and management, administrative interfaces, various bits of maintenance work, and then making it all work well enough that it doesn't occupy every waking moment -- that isn't remotely a beginner-level undertaking.

Learn to program if you're interested in it, but expecting you'll be able to create even a basic, usable online rendition of A&A any time soon is not the least bit realistic.

And as long as I'm bursting bubbles, Mac development is roughly as enjoyable as poking yourself in the eye with a ball point pent. ObjectiveC was really cool 20 years ago. Not so much, now...

Oh and calling it Axis and Allies would definitely get someone's attention at Hasbro.

Thanks for the posts, guys. Don't worry NPRZ, I have no illusions that I'm going to learn to build some fancy site in 3 months. I was actually just hoping to learn a bit, and perhaps someday be able to do something productive. :)

@Draugnar: LOL. Yes, I think you will be right. Just mentioning Axis and Allies on this forum might get us a cease and desist order!

I would like to issue a disclaimer... nowhere do I mean to suggest that a fancy site for A&A or similar would be doable as a beginner in a short amount of time. I'm just trying to get people started, in a very basic (and somewhat vague) way, on programming in general.

:-)

Though not web-based, VASSAL has a large collection of wargames. It's unintelligent, though. Users are supposed to own the games/know the rules, it just serves as the game boards. http://www.vassalengine.org/

i haven't ever tried vassal. i may have to try it at some point

bump

www.conquerclub.com this is a very good (Risk-like) site in which players play against one another using the risk rules, but on about a hundred or so player designed maps (ranging from the Mongol Empire, to Space, to Middle Earth)