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Xapi (194 D)
28 Jul 08 UTC
New game: Cheap and Fast like your momma
Just 5 points, 8 hour phase (if you sleep 8 hours every night, I hate you)

http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4835
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cteno4 (100 D)
26 Jul 08 UTC
Order history text function - THANK YOU KESTAS
I just noticed the new order history as text, and I just wanted to say that. It's very useful to know about support orders for moves that didn't happen, etc. So thank j00 :D
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Stevelers (3084 D(G))
27 Jul 08 UTC
New Game! Anyone can join.
It's called Train of Thought, the bet is 113, and the time between phases is set for 36 hours.

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4816

Should make for a good game, so anyone who wants to play, join up!
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DeliciousWolf (112 D)
26 Jul 08 UTC
New Game: Then Pen is Mightier than the Sword
-er, perhaps. If the Sword is very short, and the Pen very sharp. Anyways, new game open, 10 points, for you to prove which one is in fact, mightier.
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cteno4 (100 D)
28 Jul 08 UTC
Dislodgement question
This is a hypothetical situation.

Suppose England has armies in Denmark, Holland, and Kiel.
Suppose also that Russia has armies in Munich and Berlin.
Additionally, suppose that there is an Italian army in Ruhr.

The following orders are submitted:

(Italy)
A Ruhr stands.

(England)
A Denmark supports A Holland-Kiel.
A Holland-Kiel.
A Kiel-Ruhr.

(Russia)
A Berlin supports A Munich-Kiel.
A Munich-Kiel.

If none of the supporting moves are cut, is the army in Kiel dislodged?
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xgongiveit2ya55 (789 D)
26 Jul 08 UTC
last minute sitter
Ok so I've just learned that I may be without internet for a week starting in about 18 hours. Can anyone sit for me? I have only 3 games and 2 are near completion. Just post your e-mail and I'll send you my login and a short description of my intents in each game.
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El_Perro_Artero (707 D)
28 Jul 08 UTC
PHP Dip's Search ranking
The PageRank bar I'm using puts the main page at a 3. Not too impressive, but...
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keeper0018 (100 D)
27 Jul 08 UTC
honest support question
say that there is an army in livonia and a fleet in norway... i know that the fleet can support the army into st.p, but can the army support the fleet into st.p, even though it can only go to the north coast?
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DarioD (2326 D)
27 Jul 08 UTC
Led Julio and Aero - an update
I know I might be insisting a bit too much on this, but it's getting more and more annoying... not only Aero is allied with Led Julio in all his three games (the fourth being a country he just took from CD). In the game I am in, he has had a mathematic victory in his hands for two years now, but will not take it. And Led Julio trusts him so completely that he is not defending his SCs, even though by taking them Aero could win.
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4327
(the other games you can easily find from Aero's profile)
Shouldn't there be a way to prevent this way of playing?

D.
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BESM (18622 D)
25 Jul 08 UTC
New Player's Questions
I played by mail years ago and just saw this site so thought I'd like to try. I am just a little confused about the following:
1 How are orders submitted? Where on the game does one find the GM listed or is it some other way?
2.I communicate with countries using their country tabs?
3.I see games with supply center counts and maps. Where would I find the specific centers owned by each country and how do I tell who owns which armies or fleets on a map?
These may be rudamentary to those of you who have been doing this a while, as things were when I played by mail, but I can't figure them out and would much appreciate it if someone would be so kind as to act as menton. I might even resist the tempatation to do something bad to you some day. Or I might not.
Thank you in advance.
Katsarephat (100 D)
25 Jul 08 UTC
1. There are a bunch of drop-down menus in the game that you can use to select your action. Something like

"The army at Liverpool [drop-down: "hold", "move", "support hold", "support move"]". By default, everything holds (like in real diplomacy with CD and all that).

To issue an order, just select the new order from the drop-down menu and hit Update, then the page reloads with another drop-down relevant to the move in question. For example, Move will add "to [dropdown: countries you can move to, including theoretically possible convoys]". Input that information and hit Update again, which will confirm the choice. Sometimes there will be a third one-- convoys require a start and end, for example, and support moves require both a target and the moving unit.

2. Yeah, just open the tab of the country with whom you want to communicate, enter a message, and hit Send.

3. The colors of each individual land territory indicates who owns it, and those colors match the colors of the country names everywhere else on the page. But for reference: Austria is red, England is pink, France blue, Germany brown, Italy green, Russia violet, and Turkey yellow. Neutral territories are somewhere between yellow and beige. As for who owns what units: If there is a little square surrounding the unit that's a certain color, use the color of the square as above to see who owns the unit (this occurs on sea and in a foreign country's SC during the spring); otherwise use the color of the country.

Once you get used to the interface, it becomes really intuitive.
Katsarephat (100 D)
25 Jul 08 UTC
Oh, and you mentioned the GM... there is no GM in phpDiplomacy. All you have to do is fill out the HTML forms and hit Update or Submit or whatever, and the website's internal code will process it automatically. When all people have sent in orders or the phase time limit has been reached, the website's adjudicator (hand-programmed by Kestas, the webmaster) parses all of the orders and shows the results on the map.
BESM (18622 D)
25 Jul 08 UTC
To Mr. K-
Thanks much. So, just to clarify, there is no listing(as in my days of Postal) in Fall showing Aus: Tri, Vie, War, Mos, Nap with 3 units and 2 builds?
One more question. If I choose a new game, there is some cover charge which x7 becomes the pot which goes to the winner or split among drawers? And the deadlines are about 24 hours as normal now (as we used to have 3 week deadlines)
Chrispminis (916 D)
25 Jul 08 UTC
phpDip is designed to be mainly visual in it's representation, so there won't be any text listing. Your available builds will be listed for you when the build phase comes. All orders are displayed on the map and you can view the move history my using the navigation buttons just below the map. Also, a large map is available when you hit the middle button below the small map, which shows orders in more detail, including the failed orders that would clutter the small map.

When you create a new game you set the ante price, which is 1/7th of the pot. In winner-takes-all games, the pot is won by solo win, or split evenly between drawing players. In points-per-supply-center, when the game finishes by solo win, the pot is distributed on a 1/34th pot per supply center basis. You'll get used to the system fairly quickly.

The beauty of phpDip vs. postal play is that the games may progress much faster, since communication may be more or less instantaneous. Currently, when you start a new game, you can set the phase length up to 72 hours if 24 hours makes you uncomfortable.

If all players finalize their orders, then they are processed immediately, and the game progresses to the next phase. Orders do not have to be finalized, however, they can simply be fully updated so that the finalize button appears. When the phase ends of it's own volition following 24 hours, your fully updated orders will be processed. This may be used to allow the phase its full length for further negotiation. Otherwise, finalize when you can, but it is not imperative.
BESM (18622 D)
26 Jul 08 UTC
Thank you, Mr. C. I suspect I will figure it out. Just didn't like going into a game blind. My new copy of the game has shipped. I understand there are rules revisions since the 70's. I probably should read those over just in case.
Thank you both.
Katsarephat (100 D)
26 Jul 08 UTC
Just take a look at the help page of this site, and maybe take over a CD country in a game so you can get familiar with the interface. All the rule revisions are just attempts to resolve some of the paradoxes that come up rarely; phpDiplomacy's adjudicator does have specific resolutions for all of them. You can see more by looking at the DATCs, the link to which can be found on the help page.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
26 Jul 08 UTC
actually if you look, there is now a link near the bottom to a text version of order which I particularily like.
aoe3rules (949 D)
26 Jul 08 UTC
There are no revisions to the actual rules of the game. but, yes, you probably should read the help section.
kestasjk (64 DMod(P))
26 Jul 08 UTC
http://phpdiplomacy.net/doc/0.8-screenshot.png shows what the phpDip game interface is like
BESM (18622 D)
26 Jul 08 UTC
I just took over an 02 England in CD and am looking at the list.You were correct, the interface is simple. I got the press part and the negotions. I created a set of moves. Now there are blue check marks next to some countries and red stars next to others. Have to do with moves in or finalized? If I finalize moves, can't change. If I don't finalize and time runs out, the moves I have in stand?
Chrispminis (916 D)
27 Jul 08 UTC
The checks and X's are indeed related to finalization. Checks signifying the player has finalized, and X's denoting that they have not.

In fact, you can change your moves after you've finalized, just by hitting the un-finalize button. As well, if you have fully updated moves, such that you *could* finalize, then when the timer runs out, your fully updated orders will be executed. Finalization is really in place so that if all players choose to finalize their orders then the phase processes through immediately. That way, if all players are ready, they don't have to wait for the rest of the phase to run on. However, you are by no means obligated to finalize your orders, fully updating them will do just fine.
Churchill (2280 D)
27 Jul 08 UTC
kestas... phpDip actually looks much nicer in Safari :-P


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kestasjk (64 DMod(P))
27 Jul 08 UTC
Downtime
The server had some downtime and was rebooted, it should be back to normal now
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Pandora (100 D)
23 Jul 08 UTC
bob marley played diplomacy
"Man to man is so unjust, children
You don't know who to trust
Your worst enemy could be your best friend
And your best friend your worst enemy

Some will eat and drink with you
Then behind them su-su 'pon you
Only your friend know your secrets
So only he could reveal it
And who the cap fit, let them wear it"
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flashman (2274 D(G))
26 Jul 08 UTC
Cannot log on...
The site keeps letting me in and then failing to load/refresh...

I am losing moves through this.

Anyone else having trouble today?
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obigabu (100 D)
26 Jul 08 UTC
New 1 hour Phase match started.
Any takers?
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chainmailler (100 D)
25 Jul 08 UTC
Join Super fast
its a 6hr a phase game, so its quite fact, if anyone is intersted please join up.
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
25 Jul 08 UTC
New Thread: No Press: 101 points per player
Sounds like anlari is out. Don't know if Rait is in or out. MajorTom claimed to be interested due to the others interested, which may have changed... I don't know what to think, but let's start a new list:

1. MadMarx
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karlyguy (184 D)
26 Jul 08 UTC
Can we get a draw for game: Bat Country
How do we get a draw declared ?
Bat Country: Spring 1916, Diplomacy
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4235
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vasvla (1220 D)
25 Jul 08 UTC
Points system
After 2 finished games (1 lost, 1 survived) I got back starting pots from both. What is the explanation about this?
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El_Perro_Artero (707 D)
21 Jul 08 UTC
Holy Cow "Dark Knight" was Awesome
I went and saw it at 12:01 opening night. Loved it.
Thoughts...
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Croaker (370 D)
24 Jul 08 UTC
Metagaming!
Oh my goodness. Obviously a sinister plot by some of the highest ranked players (....or should we say player!....) on the site. This is madness!

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4651

Just kidding around. But seriously, what is going on with this game? A new "no-moves-allowed" variant?
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Alan3 (1097 D)
25 Jul 08 UTC
Please draw the game European bitch slap
Game id: http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4608&msgCountry=Global

France and England will be along to agree

Regards, Austria
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Ivo_ivanov (7545 D)
25 Jul 08 UTC
DRAW REQUEST European bitch slap
Kestas,
please, could you draw the game http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4608 - AUS, FRA and ENG have agreed in the public messageboard and will do so here.
10x
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Rules question - mutual hold support.
If I have 2 adjacent armies and they both support each other (hold), does that work? That was the way we always played the board game, but I note that the green hold line on the maps always has a bar near one end of it.
Does this mean that the support hold in <area> command only actually works if the army in <area> holds?
Or do 2 adjacent armies each supporting each other holding both have a strength of 2 , as long as the support isn't cut by another attack?
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
25 Jul 08 UTC
New Thread: No Press: anlari size bet?
anlari, how about a 25 point WTA bet? Add your name to this list if interested and do feel free to join this game and the 101 point bet game too:

1. MadMarx
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infernox (100 D)
24 Jul 08 UTC
Draw Request
UK Time
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4437

All players have agreed to a draw.
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
23 Jul 08 UTC
Any other No Press takers?
Or even Global Press Only??

I should have more than a single point soon and would like to start up another game or two... Please post your interest here!!
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Stagger (2661 D(B))
25 Jul 08 UTC
Messed Up!!
The formatting on this site is completely messed up.
No graphics are showing up.
The fonts are all reduced to Times New Roman.
Is it just me (my computer)? Or is it a problem from the server side?

Cheers!
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Rait (10151 D(S))
25 Jul 08 UTC
Changes in the icons
I'm not very happy that the icons of new messages & un-finalized moves changed to the text (new message, finalized etc.) - first of all, the game-tabs are now much wider, secondly, it is really hard to catch the situation with a quick look (it took me few moments before I figured out, which of the powers had sent me a message and it is very hard to differentiate the messages Finalized/ Not Finalized, if You take a look to the games section). So, if at all possible, I would gladly skip this upgrade & I would be happy if we would get the 'old good' icons back - at least in my opinion they were much better. Thanks.
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kestasjk (64 DMod(P))
22 Jul 08 UTC
New code from Facebook -> 0.81
We've completed the code merge with Facebook phpDip since they updated to 0.8, so now everyone gets the best features from both, I have less work to do when bugs happen, and more than twice the number of people enjoy the same code

We got a couple of nice features out of it too which Chris added to his ex-fork;
- Pagination for games listings, so you're not restricted to a limited number of games on the page
- Flexible phase lengths, so you can choose to play with 1 phase every hour, or 1 phase every 3 days. (This has been called for for a long time, not my favorite idea in the past but it seems every phpDip fork adds it so there must be something in it. Hell has froze over, I've eaten my hat, etc)

Kudos to Chris at Facebook
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Iidhaegn (111 D)
25 Jul 08 UTC
End of turn length of time
When all the orders are submitted, how long is there between the final submittal and the change of turn?
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