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peterwiggin (15158 D)
07 Mar 17 UTC
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Mod team announcement
LeonWalras is stepping down from the mod team due to lack of time. Please join me in thanking him for his service.
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Hauta (1618 D(S))
07 Mar 17 UTC
For Libs only - cool article
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article136940273.html

This is the story from Rachel Maddow a few days ago, talking about the Russian jet parked next to Trump's jet in Charlotte just before the election. The Russian is a billionaire, part owner of Bank of Cyprus. Of course, you recall that Wilbur Ross is an investor in the Bank of Cyprus. Maybe it's just a coincidence. Maybe it's MURDERRRRRRRR!
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Hauta (1618 D(S))
07 Mar 17 UTC
Nature or Nurture - Which impacts political beliefs more?
Are we hardwired to be conservative or liberal or do we have complete freewill? Nature or nurture?
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brainbomb (295 D)
07 Mar 17 UTC
What do you do if you think people arent meta-gaming
Is this the real life?
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ssorenn (0 DX)
04 Mar 17 UTC
Online Dip vs F2F
Do the same talents lend themselves to both venues?
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LachStyle (240 D)
07 Mar 17 UTC
What do you do if you think people are meta-gaming
I dont know what to do
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Deeply_Dippy (458 D)
06 Mar 17 UTC
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The Pouch is back!
For those who haven't heard, The Diplomatic Pouch is now back online:

http://www.diplomatic-pouch.org/
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
05 Mar 17 UTC
Atheistic reading of the story of Jesus
https://youtu.be/iX9pDI9o6IQ

Ok, the discussion is based on a book...
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CAPT Brad (40 DX)
27 Feb 17 UTC
Reliability Rating Determination
How is RR determined? As I figure it by NMR/Moves it should be 99. if by CD/Finished it should be 97. Either way it should be above 95. Even the average of the two would be 98. CD: 5. NMR / received: 46/4783
RR: 95% breakdown. Total (finished): 202
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Mercy (2124 D)
06 Mar 17 UTC
WWIV statistics
I compiled the data of 51 finished games with press and compared how well the different powers did.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
05 Mar 17 UTC
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Mothering...
https://newmatilda.com/2017/02/23/mothers-basic-income-case-urgent-intervention/

"Mothers undertake the bulk of the unpaid care work, without which our society would cease to function. [...] As a society is it acceptable that we free-load on this care?" (As case for Universal Basic Income)
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tvrocks (388 D)
04 Mar 17 UTC
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Why does life have value in your opinions?
Sorry if this is a weird question but I'm interested in hearing other's perspectives. Is it determined by their potential for happiness, intelligence, and/ or other talents? Does the value of someone's life fluctuate as they get older/ gain experience/ relationships, and/ or based on their actions? Are human lives worth more than other animals and if so why? Does a life inherently have value? Discuss.
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brainbomb (295 D)
01 Mar 17 UTC
Bae
This thread is for bae.
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MajorMitchell (1600 D)
03 Mar 17 UTC
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Snapchat valued at $44 billion ???
Confirmation that I'm a fuddy duddy, I don't understand how a company that produces what ? can instantly be valued at $44 billion
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brainbomb (295 D)
05 Mar 17 UTC
Why does Onions have value in yoir opinions?
Sorry if this is a weird question but I'm interested in hearing other's perspectives. Is it determined by their potential for happiness, intelligence, and/ or other talents? Does the value of someone's onions fluctuate as they get older/ gain experience/ relationships, and/ or based on their actions? Are oniin lives worth more than other veggie folk and if so why? Does a life inherently have value? Discuss. Also are we all inherently bi?
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Hauta (1618 D(S))
04 Mar 17 UTC
Why do veterans get a "public option" for services at the VA?
With all the hospitals to choose from, isn't it wasteful to prop up the VA which is so fraught with problems? Conservatives, you hated the public option when the ACA was being legislated. Why is it ok for veterans? Is it just welfare for conservatives?
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Hauta (1618 D(S))
02 Mar 17 UTC
Is having a Russia connection a prerequisite to be in the Trump Administration?
Manafort, Flynn, Carter Page, Jeff Sessions, KellyAnne Conway, Wilbur Ross, Rex Tillerson all have Russia ties...
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SuperMario0727 (204 D)
04 Mar 17 UTC
Concerning German Strategy: On The Subject Of Fronts
On the subject of German strategy and tactics, there are plenty of fronts to consider—the Northern, Eastern, Southern, and Western Fronts. Each front asserts different commitments, and offers different opportunities. It is important to consider each one before deciding . . .
SuperMario0727 (204 D)
04 Mar 17 UTC
The Northern Front concerns Scandinavia; and it is perhaps the most neutral, as it causes no immediate harm or opposition to the provinces of each Great Power. The Jutland Gambit compliments this desire, allowing diplomatic, tactical, and provincial gains—Norway and Sweden—and involves F(Kie)-Den, A(Ber)-Kie, and A(Mun)-Ruh in Spring, 1901. In Fall, 1901, F(Den)-Ska, A(Kie)-Den, and A(Ruh)-Hol, allowing an attack on Sweden and diplomatic leverage with England and Russia while still remaining completely neutral.

The Eastern Front concerns Russia—Baltic Sea, Prussia, Silesia, Warsaw, and perhaps Sweden by extension—and asserts early intentions and ambitions, that being to make gains in Russia: the Western Front must be tucked away in neutrality and disinterest. The Barbarossa Opening is the most aggressive, and it involves F(Kie)-Bal, A(Ber)-Pru, and A(Mun)-Sil, giving an anchor into Warsaw. A more modest approach involves less folly: F(Kie)-Den and A(Ber)-Pru, which works better with support from Austria-Hungary in Galicia.

The Southern Front involves Austria-Hungary and/or Italy, but never both at once—for it is always vital to make friends with those who can affect targeted affairs: that in pairing with him, he may help achieve that which is desired. One possible opening involves F(Kie)-Den, A(Ber)-Mun, and A(Mun)-Tyr or A(Mun)-Boh: all other fronts must be played off between those concerning them.

And the Western Front concerns France and/or England (but usually France). (This is perhaps the most traditional front.) Neutrality is difficult to maintain when pursuing this front, and it is imperative to seek support from the Great Power who boarders the one being attacked: if France, England supports; if England, France supports. Belgium is a prize that can be offered as a bribe to the Great Power who accepts to aid the attack. In this fashion, it is wiser to never contest or try to contest Belgium—for it is better to use it as a bargaining tool, which others must contest to have—so that it is more likely for them to see the other as a bigger threat for wanting to take it: it often occurs that the competitors for a bribe see other competitors as bigger threats than the one who offered the bribe in the first place. Thus, an altered Schlieffen Plan can be proposed: F(Kie)-Den and A(Ber)-Kie, leaving A(Mun) to hold, which favours neither France or England in the gaining of Belgium.
Claesar (4665 D)
04 Mar 17 UTC
The Northern, Eastern or Southern front can only be explored if the Western is resolved (i.e. Western Triple), for the latter is the most important.

I like your stance on Belgium, but I don't like units that Hold. I understand you don't want to bounce in Burgundy as that favours England, but could a bounce in Tyrolia be arranged?
MajorMitchell (1600 D)
04 Mar 17 UTC
Is an unnecessary bounce any better than a hold ? I'd rather move army Munich to Ruhr, or Silesia. I like the Russian German alliance. But recent experience has me asking myself "what's the point"... Good one Tom
Claesar (4665 D)
04 Mar 17 UTC
You like the Russian German alliance? I thought you always moved War-Sil.
fourofswords (415 D)
04 Mar 17 UTC
Good info. Thank you SuperMario727.
SuperMario0727 (204 D)
04 Mar 17 UTC
@Claesar
I do agree. I think the Western Front demands the most attention not only from Germany but from England and France too. I like to have consistency in my openings, though; so if I aim to go west, then I want my units to go in that general direction. I failed to mention this, but the army in Munich only needs to hold in Spring, 1901. After that, it can move either to Ruhr, Burgundy, or Silesia, depending on the front. I prefer a move to Ruhr, which allows a build in Munich later.
SuperMario0727 (204 D)
04 Mar 17 UTC
@MajorMitchell
I think the German-Russian alliance is very important at the start, especially if Germany is concerned with the Western Front. Even historically, Germany never tried to make war with Russia during WWI and WWII—for he knew that he could not afford to fight on the Eastern Front at the same time. A stand-off in Sweden might dishearten Russia, but I think it is best paired with an agreement involving him taking Rumania with his fleet in Sevastopol, which indirectly grabs his attention to Turkey, who might have taken the Black Sea.
SuperMario0727 (204 D)
04 Mar 17 UTC
@fourofswords
I appreciate the feedback. I plan on composing more articles like this in the future. I want to write at least one article for each Great Power, making them a series.
Condescension (10 D)
05 Mar 17 UTC
Open Den, Kiel, Ruhr. Side with France against England.

Every game.
ssorenn (0 DX)
05 Mar 17 UTC
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That's not smart ^^
Yoyoyozo (95 D)
05 Mar 17 UTC
(Reluctantly) agreed with ssorenn
ssorenn (0 DX)
05 Mar 17 UTC
Awe, yoyo
Ogion (3817 D)
05 Mar 17 UTC
To be fair, the western front can't be ignored. I'd mostly be with Condescension, though bouncing in Burgundy is nice to forestall temptation from France. I do like bargaining with Belgium, though often as part of the settlement with France over the division of England. If working with England it's pretty key since it makes for a tough time getting into burgundy without it.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
05 Mar 17 UTC
The Southern front should never be considered.
Condescension (10 D)
05 Mar 17 UTC
@ssorenn @Yoyo why?

Talking anon games and presuming press isn't exceptional.
SuperMario0727 (204 D)
05 Mar 17 UTC
@Ogion
I believe that the Western Front is the most important front for Germany, but I do not think a bounce in Burgundy is beneficial. If France bounces from Paris, it gives too much initiative to England, who can basically walk into Belgium uncontested. A bounce in Burgundy has more of a diplomatic effect, giving the appearance that France and Germany are not necessarily working together. Only a bounce from Marseilles allows France to still contest Belgium, but that seems pointless. Why go through all the trouble just to bounce?
ssorenn (0 DX)
05 Mar 17 UTC
To keep people honest
Ogion (3817 D)
05 Mar 17 UTC
Well, I never plan on getting Belgium in 1901. Without the bounce, you pretty much have to cover Munich. So you can start with armies in Munich and holland or you can stay with holland and Ruhr and build in Munich. Even if England gets Belgium, it is hard to hold in my experience, especially if Germany and France are working together. If France and England are then the three army front is hard to break down for the Franco-English line and it'll be the English who do, leaving France with zero benefit from any alliance with England. (Maybe Munich). Makes it easier to persuade France to switch sides
Ogion (3817 D)
05 Mar 17 UTC
That is roughly my logic I guess
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
05 Mar 17 UTC
Honest?! Honest as the day I'd long!
uclabb (589 D)
05 Mar 17 UTC
Just try to get England and France to build fleets.
MajorMitchell (1600 D)
05 Mar 17 UTC
I agree with Abgemacht about the "southern strategy" it's a silly idea for spring 01 ..if I have Russia ..the Warsaw to Silesia move..depends on alliance negotiations, first I need a reliable deal with Austria over Galicia. Secondly if the player with Germany is keen to work with me to keep England weak in the North, then I won't try the move to Silesia.
Jamiet99uk is the master of the "Silesian surprise" , not me. I'm just a clown with a misleading ranking.
SuperMario0727 (204 D)
05 Mar 17 UTC
@Ogion
I do not think Germany should go for Belgium, either. It gives England and France too much incentive to work together. All in all, I am not a fan of the Blitzkrieg Opening. I can see how Germany might use the English occupation of Belgium to persuade France into working with him, but I have always preferred to work with England. (The question of whether Germany should work with England or France is very disputed.) It is possible, though, that England and France were working together all along, so now you have a lot of problems.
SuperMario0727 (204 D)
05 Mar 17 UTC
@MajorMitchell
Historically speaking, Russia did not really want to go to war with Germany or Austria-Hungary, especially Germany. And in game it's no different. I think a move to Silesia just annoys Germany for no real reason, so expect to definitely not get Sweden. Not to mention, I don't think Silesia has too much attacking potential on its own.


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orathaic (1009 D(B))
04 Mar 17 UTC
Ireland's tragic history of mixed race 'illegitimate' babies
If you don't know the tragic story of how Ireland dealth with women who had sex and ended up pregnant without being married. Or the consequences for their children - or the abuse the faced at the hands of the Church - then this may shock you.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2017/feb/24/irelands-forgotten-mixed-race-child-abuse-victims-video
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Milo Talon (100 D)
03 Mar 17 UTC
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Known World 901
Is the Known World 901 map no longer available? It shows on the variant page, but you can't create a game with it.
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Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
04 Mar 17 UTC
March Ghost Ratings Published
Another month flies by...
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maddotter (830 D)
04 Mar 17 UTC
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Chicago FtF Tournaments April 8-9 and June 23-25
The Windy City Weasels, Chicago's face-to-face Diplomacy club, is holding a 3-round tournament April 8-9 in the western suburbs. Check out codcon.windycityweasels.org for more information (or PM me).

The club's signature tournament, the Weasel Moot, will be 4 rounds and will be held June 23-25 in the Avondale neighborhood of Chicago. More info at moot.windycityweasels.org (or PM me about that one, too).
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BooBoo (15 DX)
05 Mar 17 UTC
classic live game come join!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=193174
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Djharkavy (108 D)
05 Mar 17 UTC
World diplomacy game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=193167
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BooBoo (15 DX)
05 Mar 17 UTC
Live Game at 8!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=193169
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BooBoo (15 DX)
05 Mar 17 UTC
Live Game starting soon!
sign up right here: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=193169
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nmpolo (2086 D)
02 Mar 17 UTC
Looking for a decent game (RR96%)
I'm looking to join a game with players that will actually play. I haven't played for a couple of years and was quickly reminded why I stopped when in Autumn 01 3 people failed to submit orders in my first game back. My RR is 96% (I'm still ashamed it's not 100% - I CD'ed once before RR was visible and didn't know it would negatively affect my stats). I prefer to play classic. Other than that, I'm not too bothered on rules or phase length. Also, I love players that "ready" often.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
01 Mar 17 UTC
Political Correctness is a More Dangerous Form of Totalitarianism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dNbWGaaxWM

Against political correctness - Slavoj Žižek
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aatstarr (285 D)
04 Mar 17 UTC
Just need one more!
Ancient Med Live - don't leave us hanging http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=193149
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Jamiet99uk (1307 D)
04 Mar 17 UTC
Donation Drive
What's the latest? How much money has been raised, and what is it being spent on?
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