"The pandering notion, which every politician ever loves to cite to get votes, of fighting for ordinary Americans like me is really inspiring and I think we can all find admirable traits in that."
FTFY

I agree with Leon's assessment.

Although on the topic of the op. I find is so funny that people dismiss all the documents and interviews and reports on Hillary's actions as "conspiracy."
Yet believe Russia is hacking America and behind wiki leaks to get their puppet Trump in charge.

@ND - Clinton's been under investigation for most of the time she was first lady for Whitewater. Then as Secretary of State for Libya, emails, etc. So she's taken plenty of smear and political hit jobs.

Trump's been prosecuted for crimes back to racial discrimination in housing when he started out in real estate. Most he settled to avoid worse punishments than fines and a clear proof of guilt. That way he could claim no guilt. In other other cases he's had the other parties sign non-disclosure agreements to prevent the release of embarrassing truths;

Like look at one of the reactions to orthaic's post about FDR baiting Japan to attack them.
"I prefer the tin foil hat Vince Foster conspiracies and the nonsensical FDR goaded the Japanese into attacking the US posts."
This is so often the reaction by people without looking at the facts.

The baiting is literally documented and different aggressive political actions against Japan by Washington are recorded by so many different sources.
But America is the good guys, they'd never do something like that. It makes more sense that Japan was just idiotic and attacked Pearl Harbor out of the blue, and that Washington reluctantly joined the war because it was the moral thing to do and can't stand for Japan attacking them unprovoked.

Meanwhile, all the American propaganda is painting Moscow as the evil one, and that Washington is doing all that they can to remain peaceful with Moscow. President Putin (who was elected for a third term after Dmitry Medvedev was in power for four years) who has a higher approval rating than any American leader is a monster. Heck, he's a dictator who rigs elections and controls the media. (Yet conspiracy like that is ridiculous in America)
Look, I'm sure Putin isn't an angel. But can people please please please research what America is doing in the world. And especially Hillary's role in them.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3108/2840338167_af1c0037d5_m.jpg

It's almost as if...these are typical candidates...trying to fill a role that is typically filled...with people like them...

rofl. That picture is implanted in my brain now.

He is the brainbomb after all.

No the racial discrimination suit was settled with no admission of guilt by Trump.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/politics/donald-trump-housing-race.html

"A former Trump superintendent named Thomas Miranda testified that multiple Trump Management employees had instructed him to attach a separate piece of paper with a big letter “C” on it — for “colored” — to any application filed by a black apartment-seeker."
"The judge dismissed both the countersuit [for defamation] and the contempt-of-court charge. After nearly two years of legal wrangling, the Trumps gave up and signed a consent decree.

As is customary, it did not include an admission of guilt. But it did include pages of stipulations intended to ensure the DESEGREGATION* of Trump properties."
*capitalization added for emphasis

Read with me... n-o-a-d-m-i-s-s-i-o-n o-f-g-u-i-l-t.... thanks.

You are to Trump what brainbomb is to Clinton.

you are to metaphors what similes are to literary devices.

I always thought cunnilingus was a spell they cast on harrry potter.

You are to Valis what I am to TrPrado.

You are to a potato slicer what Jamiet is to self flaggellation.

I demand to know what you mean!!

Who's Valis?

@ND ""@ND, when was America Great?"

I am not going to dignify this weird SJW statement with an answer. If you don't think this country has had some great moments (before Obama) then you are truly lost, my friend. I wish you well"

No? You don't know when it was great? What great actually means. How Trump will make you great.

I'm willing to concede that the US has done some 'great' things. By some measures (i don't think intervening in world war 2 comes close to counting, countless empires have gone to war and won... Always before they eventually lose...)

But that is about the only thing which has been offered.

Not really impressed by your lack of engagement.

Obama has had a negligible impact on the economy:
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-09-06/how-obama-s-economic-record-stacks-up

Now ask yourself how great of an impact Obama has had on our foreign policy. He mostly extended and honored the arrangements made by Bush, pushing little for significant change beyond the Paris agreements (even the TPP is just a more inclusive update of our extant trade agreements).

So let's take a deep breath and ask ourselves where we should go from here? Ignore your established biases and look at the facts: the GOP led both the House and Senate for the majority of Obama's term, yet we are supposed to believe that somehow the Democrats are responsible for the abysmal state of our nation?

Donald Trump has every intention of shaking up the status quo, it's what his campaign has been about from the start. Is that a good idea? I seriously want to hear some opinions, because *that* is what we really need to evaluate. Believe me, I'm as frustrated with the current state of affairs as many of you are, but I will gladly take the status quo over a series of crude attempts at policy just for the sake of "change."

And if you seriously prefer to deal with evaluative terms like "great" over preparing ourselves for realistic solutions to the problems we are actually suffering from, please, DO NOT VOTE!

@Orathaic: Oh, I know when it was great. I am just not going to dignify you with an answer when you say something ridiculous and absurd like (America was never great).

Let me translate that for you ora:

"Wrong!"

This is devastating: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/28/bernstein_fbi_would_not_reopen_case_unless_new_evidence_was_a_real_bombshell.html

Bernstein (one of the reporters who broke the Watergate story) states that A) it is a bombshell, B) new evidence, C) lots of rumors in national security circles that something is going to break this week regarding the emails D) FBI had to get out ahead of it.

GG Hillbots. You lose. #MAGA

I am looking forward to Brainbomb personally delivering me a piece of artwork and Brainbomb buying every user on this forum a pizza.

Keep waiting

Any mod can tell you that Bearnstein is not a good source.

Ah that pizza is going to be so good as is the artwork I am sure.

Still got a week and a half ;)