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Thucydides (864 D(B))
04 Aug 15 UTC
GRE scores
What's a good score? Share your score too, if you feel comfortable. I just took the test this morning
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alulahello (0 DX)
12 Aug 15 UTC
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halloween costumes 2015
I know, 3 months early blahblah. But I'm bored and I want to talk about Halloween.
Some people are into crazy Costumes and go all out to make them. Brainstrom ideas for costumes and how to make/obtain them. What are you thinking of going as?
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
11 Aug 15 UTC
Opposite Gender Friends leads to Lower Academic Performance
Interesting paper I'm reading right now. Not completely done with it, but its methodology seems sound.

http://pubs.aeaweb.org/doi/pdfplus/10.1257/app.20140030
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ssorenn (0 DX)
12 Aug 15 UTC
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this is interesting--watch the video
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/08/10/everyone-fails-to-ride-this-bike-you-would-too-this-is-what-it-tells-us-about-the-brain/
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P13ANATOR (100 D)
12 Aug 15 UTC
Hi I am new, quick question
I am starting a game with some friends, can you play with less than 7 people? If so, is anything different compared to a full game? Thanks :-)
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ND (879 D)
20 Jul 15 UTC
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MX: All Star Game
See inside for details
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
10 Aug 15 UTC
MAFIA XI: Confirmations
I know some people may not realize sign up thread is also confirmation thread so let's make that ultra clear:
Starts 8/11/15, 6 PM EDT
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guak (3381 D)
11 Aug 15 UTC
When retards play gunboat
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JamesYanik (548 D)
11 Aug 15 UTC
Fly Free My Baby :'(
I just sold my first computer, it was really old but i'll never forget its beauty. I never can think of things to bring on trips, but my computer was my best possession. It was like a Mac -1... you know, pre-internet
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
10 Aug 15 UTC
Ferguson
Apparently the anniversary of Mike Brown's death turned into a reenactment. Anyone know anything?
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2ndWhiteLine (2606 D(B))
04 Aug 15 UTC
2015 Gunboat Tournament Ideas
See inside.
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trip (696 D(B))
10 Aug 15 UTC
Cheap Gunboats
3 games, 10 point, 36hr, WTA, HDV, Anon
First come, first served...
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ghug (5068 D(B))
29 Jul 15 UTC
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Pacific Northwest FTF
I've only ever played FTF with people who don't really care about the game and want to be done after a year, and I always feel a twinge of jealousy when I sew those people having fun playing in real life on that crappy coast across the country. This is just a post to see who might be interested in getting something set up on this side of the country. I'm in the Seattle area.
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Hlud (115 D)
10 Aug 15 UTC
Monday Evening Live-2
I'm trying to join Monday Evening Live-2 starting in half an hour, as it only shows 6 current players, but only gives me the option to spectate. Why is this? My RR is 100%
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TrPrado (461 D)
05 Aug 15 UTC
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Conundrum
So the people who make the schedules at my school are kinda dumb. I signed up for both AP Micro/Macroeconomics and AP European History. Only one class of each is being offered. And they happen to be the same hour. So I need to drop one and pick up some other course. I really don't know, so what (preferably AP) course would you suggest for me to take instead of AP Micro/Macroeconomics (because there's no chance I'll drop Euro)?
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
07 Aug 15 UTC
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DIPCON @ Philadelphia Massacre - Live
I'm risking life and limb to bring you guys the latest news all weekend and all tournament long.
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Check_mate (100 D)
03 May 15 UTC
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Not "Who am I?", but WHERE am I?
Have some time to kill. Ask yes/no questions to guess WHERE I am. If you guess right you go next. If you guess wrong you're out for the rest of the round.
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
07 Jul 15 UTC
MAFIA XI: Sign-ups
MAFIA XI: Sign-ups
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ssorenn (0 DX)
04 Aug 15 UTC
The dreams of solo--
Friends and enemies are welcome. 36 hour wta anon 50pt. Who wants action?
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Check_mate (100 D)
10 Aug 15 UTC
Cheating accusations
Without mentioning names or game ID's, can I please clarify something.

Making cheating accusations via in-game global press is not allowed, right? The correct procedure being to email the mods who will investigate?
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
08 Aug 15 UTC
New Italian strategy article
The army in Venice should go to Piedmont.

(with apologies to Chris Martin)
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MrcsAurelius (3051 D(B))
23 Jul 15 UTC
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Setting up a game
Hi, I have been absent for three years. Its startin' to itch, as Diplomacy remains my favorite board game! Want to play a game with a friend of mine who also hasn't played for a long while.
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
09 Aug 15 UTC
I'm still alive
Sorry about that.
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Octavious (2701 D)
09 Aug 15 UTC
Clause IV
The people's flag is deepest red, or at least it could be. Comrade Corbyn has been suggesting he could bring back clause IV into the Labour Party constitution. I'm interesting in what it sounds like to an international audience.
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JamesYanik (548 D)
09 Aug 15 UTC
My Cat's name is Shadow!!! EOG
This is the difficulty of playing a stalemate line, and I done goofed.
gameID=165777
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JamesYanik (548 D)
09 Aug 15 UTC
I got a cat
she is shadow
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CL8At_SUwAAl-74.jpg
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CMurder (749 D)
07 Aug 15 UTC
Getting Germany every single game
Hi everybody, I'd like to ask if anyone has experience with an account getting a certain country every single game. One of my friends who I've played in several games against has drawn Germany out of the pot every single time. We're onto the fifth time out of 5 games he's gotten Germany.

I'd put it up to chance but we've reached 5 sigma and are on our way to 6. Thoughts?
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JamesYanik (548 D)
08 Aug 15 UTC
THE PREMIER LEAGUE IS BACK!!!
Join a Modern Live game as we watch Spurs and United fight it out, followed by the Premier League Season!!!
gameID=165741
Come on soccer nerds, you'll be on your labtop checking stats so just join it and stop pretending.
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OutsideSmoker27 (204 D)
04 Aug 15 UTC
Stop the solo or tighten up the draw?
Which is more important, in your opinion?
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
01 Mar 15 UTC
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The School of War - Study Group of Winter 2015
This thread is for the Winter 2015 Study Group of the School of War. Please be courteous to those running the game and respect any reasonable requests they may make. This semester the Study Group will be overseen by A_Tin_Can and goldfinger0303. gameID=155736
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
13 Jun 15 UTC
COMMENTARY FROM THE PAST: Builds 1907->1908

France builds F Bre
England builds F Lon

France and England are now irrevocably at war. England has a worse chance of defending, and both have dramatically reduced their solo chances :(

Let's talk about soloing, first:

To solo, you need 18 centres. In the north - as in, above the north side of the main 17/17 stalemate line - there are 15 centres accessible by fleets (Iberia, Marseilles, England, Brest, the low countries, Kiel/Den/Ber, Scandinavia, and St P). In the south, there are 12 centres (Tunis, Italy, Trieste, Greece, Turkey, Bul, Rum, Sev).

If you have mostly fleets, then you can't hold the inland centres, so an England with only 1-3 armies is saying that they need ALL of the northern centres, plus three centres from the mediterranean to solo. An impressive, but unlikely feat. Conversely, armies can reach all 34 centres on the map (assuming you have at least one fleet). It is, by definition, easier to solo with armies.

A good rule of thumb is to only build four fleets as France or England - that's enough to hold any relevant stalemate that requires fleets, and enough to give you flexibility of convoys and supports. I'm not saying never build more than four fleets - I'm saying if you're building more than four fleets, you'd better have a really good reason.

***Defence***

It's common for newer players to see fleet builds as defensive for England - after all, England can only be reached by sea. However, if you're defending, armies have far better flexibility. An army in Yor can support all English home SCs- whereas there's no position that a fleet can support all home centres.

Fleets are also slow to move around the island, which means that an attacker has much greater flexibility. Is a hostile fleet in NAO moving to Norwegian, Clyde, Irish or Liverpool? The wrong call with a fleet in Clyde is costly, whereas an army can recover from the wrong guess, because it's not restricted to coastal movement.

TWO armies in Britain is even better.

***Locked in to war***

With England building F Lon, it means that there's no way for England to work with France. Given France's overwhelming fleet presence already, it's extremely unlikely that England will get through to Mid-Atlantic, so a new fleet can only be expected to take Holland (French), Belgium (also French), or Berlin (German, but a dead end - a fleet there can't go any further).

A missed diplomatic opportunity here for France would have been to use this observation to get Germany on-side. Then, France could have supported Germany into Munich, in exchange for a fleet build in Berlin. This build could only be used against England, and the extra "friendly" fleet allows France to build armies instead, solidifying their position on the mainland. I think England would have been toast in this scenario.

For France, F Bre left the south of France *extremely* vulnerable to Italy. With the Turkish position only going to resolve through Diplomacy, there's always a chance that Turkey and Italy make peace and Italy comes north. Even if France knew with 100% certainty that Italy wasn't going to do that - it doesn't matter. An army gives France a better chance of being able to roll through the German centres, allows a reasonable defence against England OR Italy, and gives the option of continuing the fight against England, rolling through Germany, or even mounting a surprise attack on Italy.

What do I think should have happened instead? I think England should have disbanded the fleet in the Channel in the A1907 retreats, instead of retreating to Picardy (which ensures a hostile French build). That gives two builds, and the possibility of peace with France:

"Look, this war isn't getting us anywhere. I'm building two armies, which means that there'll be three armies on the mainland, and I'll be an incredibly tough nut to crack. Why not build an army yourself, and we can roll west together?"

How different would that position have been?
A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
13 Jun 15 UTC
Comments/questions welcome. I'm at home with a nasty flu, so some of this might be incoherent or outright wrong.
DeathLlama8 (514 D)
18 Jun 15 UTC
Bump for builds
DeathLlama8 (514 D)
19 Jun 15 UTC
spring moves in
LeonWalras (865 D)
21 Jun 15 UTC
Bump for retreats.
DeathLlama8 (514 D)
23 Jun 15 UTC
Autumn moves in
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
23 Jun 15 UTC
(+1)
So, ATC asked me to write up some commentary for the past phase, though I did warn him I'm not the politest guy when I'm incredulous, and I've not been following this at all before now, but hey...

So. Those Spring 1910 moves (and the builds where applicable) :

England - Good defence on the home isles. Correct prediction, have a kudo. I intensely dislike that you have fleets in Belgium and particularly Holland, but that can't be helped at this stage.

Sweden though... what on earth was the point of that? Where are you going to go from there? If you wanted to pull back from Berlin (and really, I don't know why you did that) then you should've gone to Bothnia for leverage over Russia. Even Denmark, for some North Sea action, would be an improvement on Sweden - it's a nothing place to be. No strategic benefit at all. On the bright side, you've got the MAO, and with Portugal guaranteed and the impending French collapse to Italy, one more correct guess on where Wales moves this turn and you've won that war. You should already be planning your moves against your next opponents - the Juggernaut.

France - Risking the MAO is never, ever, ever worth it. Letting a hostile fleet into it is nothing short of catastrophic. If you wanted to go to Irish Sea, you should've moved the Channel there. You were unlucky with the guesses England made on the home islands - the idea was right, but England saw it coming. Why on earth are you not working with Germany though? You could've given him Kiel back there, causing an English disband and giving you a rump ally who could help you with the line at Munich. With the Juggernaut, Italy, and England all hostile, and Iberia a write-off, I don't think you've got much hope now, and you should be screaming as loudly as you can about a potential Turkish solo and trying to get yourself a stalemate line SC for that 1-2 SC draw location. Kiel is probably the best shot at one of those you have now, but whether you can negotiate that I don't know. Brest wasn't the best disband either - I'd have disbanded Norwegian Sea. England had too many units around it for you to be able to hold any SC you ninja-snuck into, and by disbanding Brest you made a critical hole in your defensive line. I'd have focused on the mainland (Belgium and Holland) because there was a very very viable option of force-disbanding the English fleet in Belgium with a smart convoy back there locking him into Picardy by Autumn, and if you cut him off of the mainland, the home islands could've come to you later. After you kept Norwegian Sea, though, you really should have supported Russia to Norway and tried to kill England in Scandinavia. Disbands for him are great for you.

Germany: You're supporting the wrong guy! In your position, you want to be supporting whoever the weaker player in a war is, so that that war doesn't end. As soon as E/F stop fighting, you're dead, so you want them to keep fighting. Helping the leader is not conducive to that. You could've arranged with France to get Kiel back last turn, and then had a 50/50 on bouncing Berlin or not which if successful would put you right back in this, with Munich or Scandinavia options depending on builds. As it is, I think you have a better chance of making it to a draw than France, but that's because Berlin is likely to be centre #18 for Turkey right now. If you get another chance at Kiel, it might be worth going for, but Berlin is far better than Munich to be in here, so don't take any offers that might get you Munich in return for Berlin.

Italy: Man, what are you doing? You can't run away from Turkey when he has that many fleets, because he can and will chase you down. By attacking France, you've now removed any and all help you will ever get in this game. What you really needed to be doing was a Wintergreen - Russia is not getting a good deal (or even an average deal) from that horrifically imbalanced juggernaut, and the two of you should've worked together against Turkey there and maybe you could've driven him back. Now, you've got to seize as much of Iberia ASAP and hope that you can make it into the draw with English support holds - and if France stubbornly holds off England before he can get there to support hold you from Turkey, it's bye bye. Tyrolia was probably the correct disband, as none were pleasant, but a charm offensive with Russia was everything to you there.

Russia: I wish I had allies as pleasant as you every game. Why are you in a Juggernaut? What are you getting from this? A few little scraps that Turkey will be able to romp back into later, as you help him get nearer and possibly over the stalemate line. You should've been working with Italy this year - built in Sevastopol, and gone all out against Turkey. It may not have succeeded, but I think you actually have less chance than anyone else of making it into a draw here right now - all of your centres are easy pickings for Turkey with the exception of STP, which England will probably have taken before Turkey gets there. That puts Turkey onto 12, with the Italian centres making that 17. So he's one net SC away from the solo - and you're going to help him into Munich? Good grief, no. As soon as he's safe enough in Munich or Berlin, you're dead. So you either have to somehow make yourself a rock solid northern base (possible had France beaten England back, but that's done with now. I can only assume France failed to support you into Norway because you should have just been happy with STP and sent Moscow southwards here.

Turkey: Very nice. Wish my games had people as conducive to my plans as this seems to have for you. I'd consider supporting Russia to Munich here - the more different countries fighting over that area, the better for you. After the Italian invasion of France, you have to move quickly to stop his builds holding you up - I'd be going for the Bulgaria -> Apulia/Naples convoy here, along with Alb - Adriatic. Whatever you've done to stop Russia and Italy allying against you when they relaly should have is great. I think you should solo this game - don't let me down. Good job building armies - you're light there, and you will need some more later. Particularly for when you invade Russia to take that solo. The French implosion is going a bit too quickly for you though - you want him distracting England for longer. Once France falls, a line is likely to start to appear, so anything you can do to keep France going (that Bohemia unit is very useful here) should be done.

NB: Yes, I saw the phase changed whilst I was typing this, but I couldn't be bothered to delete it all, or write a new lot up.

Thus ends my brief appearance in the SoW thread. No offence was intended with this post (though a slap to the face may have been).
peterwiggin (15158 D)
23 Jun 15 UTC
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Can we have more commentaries from hr? I'll even play a non-anon game if hr will comment on it.
A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
24 Jun 15 UTC
I too am hoping for more commentary from HR :)

I'll write something up soon for this phase - but I just quickly wanted to say something to Russia - I love your work. Your chances in this game just went up significantly.
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
24 Jun 15 UTC
That's because he was taught by a master
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
24 Jun 15 UTC
@pw

You've got a deal right there.
peterwiggin (15158 D)
24 Jun 15 UTC
Alright, who wants to play me? Maybe I should start my own thread...
Draffin (172 D)
25 Jun 15 UTC
Sure, I'm interested to see how quickly I could lose a game!
VirtualBob (209 D)
25 Jun 15 UTC
@pw - check out the GR challenge thread.
VirtualBob (209 D)
25 Jun 15 UTC
http://webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?threadID=1269259#1269259
uclabb (589 D)
25 Jun 15 UTC
I would love to play a high level non-anon commented game
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
25 Jun 15 UTC
It's something we've discussed. The Where Did It Go Wrong series is somewhat in that vein but it's not quite similar.
DeathLlama8 (514 D)
29 Jun 15 UTC
bump for moves
Draffin (172 D)
30 Jun 15 UTC
double bump for luck
dyager_nh (619 D)
30 Jun 15 UTC
(+1)
Wow...this is still going on with 6 people still in it?
DaddyO (350 D)
30 Jun 15 UTC
What is the "where did it go wrong" series?
Are there ever commented gunboat games? I think for relative inexperienced players that would help with tactics and explain why it's better to move one direction instead of another.
thorfi (1023 D)
30 Jun 15 UTC
Where Did I Go Wrong: Game One - threadID=1255646

I am not sure when the next one(s) might be coming up.
DaddyO (350 D)
30 Jun 15 UTC
Thanks, Thorfi.
DeathLlama8 (514 D)
01 Jul 15 UTC
triple bump
Draffin (172 D)
01 Jul 15 UTC
(+1)
Bump for my very sad moves
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
02 Jul 15 UTC
This is an official call for a basically permanent replacement of Russia due to oversea traveling. I hope to fill the position by Saturday. Please PM me if interested.

Valis2501
SOW Chancellor
DeathLlama8 (514 D)
04 Jul 15 UTC
Another bump
MarquisMark (326 D(G))
04 Jul 15 UTC
Should we pause this game if we're going to have a replacement player?
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
04 Jul 15 UTC
Yes, game temporarily paused. It will be unpaused Monday at latest.
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
04 Jul 15 UTC
BUMP

anyone want to take over Russia? Please PM me if so.

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