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Adam Bomb (100 D)
09 Dec 11 UTC
Doctor Who: the New or the Old orOld or Old or Old.....???
An almost perpendicular thread to my tiring Socialism thread.
Who's your favorite Doctor???
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dr. octagonapus (210 D)
10 Dec 11 UTC
New World Dip. Game
game phase: 1 day
bet: 75

join please
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
10 Dec 11 UTC
OK, This HAS To Stop! America...THIS Is Why Your Colleges Are Failing!
Or one reason...jerks like the ones who are 1. Talking in a library on finals 2. Clearly set this girl off and 3. ARE SO SLEAZY AS TO TAPE HER, AND THEN GOAD HER SOME MORE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xbaDw7A6anA
WHY let jerks like that who don't want to work into our Cal States U's? They're already impacted! I feel for that Asian girl...
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Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
09 Dec 11 UTC
Favorite Word in the English language
Post your favorite word and definition and why.
Mine is : antidisestablishmentarionism, a movement to remove the church of england from power, and its sheer length and awesomeness is why I like it!
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President Eden (2750 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
Entering retirement to go to work... how about that.
See thread for details.
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franzjosefi (1291 D)
10 Dec 11 UTC
Most Important Centers on the Ancient Med Map
Quick straw poll. What is the most strategically vital center on the Ancient Med map? I think it is Byzantium.
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Nelhybel (280 D)
10 Dec 11 UTC
Team Diplomacy Tournament
A tournament hosted by Diplomat33. "Game 1" is starting to wrap up, and we're all wondering...
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jireland20 (0 DX)
10 Dec 11 UTC
LIVE GAME!!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=74416
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
09 Dec 11 UTC
Friday Around The Horn! Sports Fans, Is It Safe To Say...
1. The NHL has leapfrogged the beleaguered NBA as 3rd most popular out of the Big Four Leagues (NFL way in first, MLB in a distant-but-decent 2nd?)
2. The USA's interest in the 2012 World Cup will be higher after the '08 run?
3. The Angels' Pujos/Wilson pickups make them favorites to make the LCS?
4. The Ravens have supplanted the Colts/Patriots/Steelers as the AFC Superteam?
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Argento (5723 D)
10 Dec 11 UTC
New game "For the old times..."
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=74401
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Sydney City (0 DX)
09 Dec 11 UTC
3 countries needed in live game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=74378&msgCountryID=6
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mrmuszynski (100 D)
09 Dec 11 UTC
Transferring control of a country
We have a player in our game who is not going to be able to continue because he is too busy with work and just doesn't have time to commit to playing well.

Is there a way for the mods to substitute another account for his, or should we just have someone sit on his account for the remainder of the game?
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
09 Dec 11 UTC
Mods!
Someone stole my lunch out of the fridge at work today! What are youvgoing to do about it??
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Trooth (561 D)
09 Dec 11 UTC
Whats your Favorite phrase?
I couldnt think of my favorite word because there are so many, but I was able to remember my favorite phrase:

off duty stripper...
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
07 Dec 11 UTC
WACcon 2012: Seattle
Anyone else going?!
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
09 Dec 11 UTC
Any mods online?
Care to message me if you are?
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
08 Dec 11 UTC
Albert Pujos Is Coming My Way To LA...ANGELS SIGN HIM! (WOW!)
I mean...WOW! Largest contract in history! 10 years, 254 MILLION $!
That's the Angels eclipsing the YANKEES contract to A-Rod, the YANKS!
And St. Louis...how do you NOT keep him whatever it takes!
Sell the Rams to Los Angeles, before you let Pujos go...WOW!
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chenf (689 D)
09 Dec 11 UTC
Let's see if we can get this filled in the next hour and half
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=74108

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Yonni (136 D(S))
09 Dec 11 UTC
Why aren't you watching Michael: Tuesday and Thursdays?
The fact that you're doing anything else at this moment is a travesty.
http://www.cbc.ca/michael/videos/
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Cachimbo (1181 D)
08 Dec 11 UTC
Best Webdip Quote of the Day
Post yours here.
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Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
06 Dec 11 UTC
Great Article About Diplomacy
http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/resources/humour/coast_moscow.htm

Well worth a read. Written by the maker of the game himself.
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
08 Dec 11 UTC
Mod Attention Please.
Hi Mods (again),
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Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
08 Dec 11 UTC
WebDip Poll: Am I a troll?
Vote Below with a +1 to the option you choose.
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killer135 (100 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
Riddles
post a riddle
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
06 Jul 11 UTC
SoW Summer 2011 Game 2
gameID=63029

Please follow the thread rules below
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
05 Dec 11 UTC
Will you be my friend?
I'm looking to start a game with people I haven't played before.
Game will be 36hour, WTA, low pot.
I reserve the right to not be friends with anyone I chose.
Post your interest below.
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rokakoma (19138 D)
08 Dec 11 UTC
Tigres et Diesel - EOG
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Babak (26982 D(B))
16 Nov 11 UTC
Something I have to share
Should be watched by as many people as possible. please share on your FB pages or email contact lists. Powerful and effective.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGR5UQJLQvU&list=PL75FD5B97013BAF01&index=6&feature=plpp_video
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Sicarius (673 D)
22 Nov 11 UTC
"The 99% do not represent anyone, by your own definition "monolithic: large and characterless" It's hillarious that yo claim Washington doesn't represent you becuse they are large and far away...and then you turn around and say a bunch of whiny, bitching kids, who - in your words - are monolithic - are supposed to represent me. The continuous stream of contradictory things that come out of your head is mind-boggling. I don't mean that as an insult -- I mean it as a consistent observation."

thats the opposite of what I said, learn to read. They represent themselves, that is the point.
Leif_Syverson (271 D)
22 Nov 11 UTC
Once again Putin I am floored by your sheer brilliance.

"Which naturally helps empower corporations to have greater control over our lives, as the federal government is reduced to impotency. "
Apparently the federal government is the only possible source of power which can stop the corporations.. Wait, isn't OWS upset because the corporations are in bed with the government?

"Which is a blanket condemnation of all civil disobedience movements, ever. How you propose to change society by not inconveniencing the authorities is still a mystery. "
Once again, apparently the only way to influence society is through breaking the law...
So if breaking the law is the only way to effect change, and I want to pursue justice for the poor in my community who have been fleeced for all they are worth by the rich, I should stand in an intersection...
O rather, since I'm already breaking the law, why not just go all the way and steal the money from the first rich guy I see and give it to the poor.

Oh, maybe because that's wrong and without law there is no justice and without justice the poor are screwed.

I will agree there is a time and place for disobeying the law without violence (and possibly in even more rare situations, with violence) but only in extreme circumstances where there is no other course of action, and as a last resort, not a first resort, and violence should be used only in self-defense in the rarest of circumstances.

"Because the local community has such a great ability to raise these kinds of resources. "
Hmm, maybe if the local community isn't sending it all to the federal government who has decided that the poor state of Tennessee needs golf courses or that oppressed South Carolina needs a teapot museum, then they will have the ability to raise resources as needed to address problems. After all, the people affected will be the most motivated to address the problem, and will also be the most familiar with the ins and outs of the issue.
Oh and if the local community can't address the issue by itself, then the next level of government is tasked with addressing the problem, all the way up to federal as a last resort. The communities band together to increase their power when it is needed, but the federal government isn't to be looked to as a first resort and is not impotent, but temporarily entrusted with power to deal with the largest issues as needed. Not all issues, all the time as is the current trend.

If there is a dispute within the community of one segment of the community oppressing another segment, again, the local community deals with the issue first, and if it can't the state deals with it and if that fails, then the federal government is asked to step in. The local community should at least attempt to deal with the issue first rather than look to the federal government for help from the start.

"But damn those freeloading welfare recipients who get unemployment benefits after being laid off. "
Read the next sentence: There are extreme circumstances where the society can (and should) decide to help those who have been hit by misfortune. (Laid off? mental handicap? etc.)
However, I know too many people who simply rely on their welfare check and don't spend a second trying to look out for themselves. Again the Federal government can't possibly prevent this, but local communities can.

I qualified my statement that social welfare shouldn't be a right, and will further qualify that statement to 'shouldn't be a right--irregardless of an individual's behavior.' Social welfare should be limited, temporary, and focused to getting an individual back on their feet. Not a permanent answer to how they will live the rest of their lives.

As for inheritance, are you suggesting that inheritance is evil and unjust?

You and I will disagree on profit, so I'll leave this one alone for the most part, but I will say, profit is what the corporation has left over, once all expenses are paid, including the CEO's salary. Profit is not what goes in the CEO's pocket. Profit is used to expand/improve the business, so without profit a business dies. So let's keep calling profit evil.

"Easy to say when we live in a society in which the super-rich continue to get richer and richer while the vast majority of the population have their incomes decline. Hard to say the rich aren't at fault when they pursue policies that defend their class at the expense of the welfare of everyone else."

So hard work and seeking a better life and defending your livelihood are horrible despicable acts of greed? Or do you claim that there isn't a single rich person in the world who got their wealth honestly, through hard work, through treating people with compassion, and who is generous with their wealth, yet still defends it against those who would simply like to take it from him?

I'd like to see the stat that the vast majority of the population's income is declining. America's poor are the richest poor in the world, and they complain the loudest about the gap between the rich and the poor. Sounds as much like greed as anything. Look, I don't deny there are very greedy super rich people out there, but you lump everyone who has wealth into a class and call the whole class evil and at fault. That's a logical fallacy if I ever saw one. You somehow how justify raising all of the poor up to a level where not a single one of them can do any wrong, none of them could possibly be gaming the system, there isn't a single one who could possibly just want a free handout.

Would I be wrong in saying that you would characterize simply having too much money above a certain threshold to be a injustice against society?
Leif_Syverson (271 D)
22 Nov 11 UTC
Oh, and regarding the UC Davis incident, as far as I can tell the two cops made a bad decision, and they should and probably will get what is coming to them.

I don't claim every protest is illegal, and I don't claim every cop is righteous.

You are the one who seems to think every police action is cruel, evil, motivated by hate for the poor, and funded by rich greedy fat thugs, while every crowd of protesters can do no wrong. Wait, let me ammend that, rightwing protesters excepted.
Sicarius (673 D)
23 Nov 11 UTC
http://www.whsv.com/home/headlines/Police_Kill_Dying_Cat_Resident_Upset__134285278.html
Sicarius (673 D)
30 Nov 11 UTC
http://www.democracynow.org/2011/11/29/pepper_spray_creator_decries_use_of

We speak with Kamran Loghman, the expert who developed weapons-grade pepper-spray, who says he was shocked at how police have used the chemical agent on non-violent Occupy Wall Street protesters nationwide — including students at University of California, Davis, female protesters in New York City, and an 84-year old activist in Seattle. “I saw it and the first thing that came to my mind wasn’t police or students, it was my own children sitting down having an opinion and they’re being shot and forced by chemical agents,” says Loghman, who in the 1980s helped the FBI develop weapons-grade pepper -spray, and collaborated with police departments to develop guidelines for its use. “The use was just absolutely out of the ordinary and it was not in accordance with any training or policy of any department that I know of. I personally certified 4,000 police officers in the early ‘80s and ‘90s and I have never seen this before. That’s why I was shocked... I feel is my civic duty to explain to the public that this is not what pepper spray was developed for.”
Sicarius (673 D)
30 Nov 11 UTC
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2011/11/28/18701164.php

interview with scott olsen
Putin33 (111 D)
30 Nov 11 UTC
Rightwing protesters never get sprayed with military grade pepper spray from point blank range, nor do they have their head busted from tear gas cannisters, nor do they have cops openly talk about opening fire on them http://imgur.com/yHPeU. In fact, police openly collaborated with rightwing protests during the Tea Party bonanza in 2009-2010.

largeham (149 D)
30 Nov 11 UTC
The cops have always been willing to protect right wing protests. Cable Street, Tea Baggers and neo-Nazi marches in Germany have all shown what side the police come down on.
d31 (312 D(B))
30 Nov 11 UTC
The neonazis are a special case. Ironically, they tend to be mostly peaceful in their protests (if not in other aspects of their being) while the counterprotesters routinely seek violent confrontation.
Putin33 (111 D)
30 Nov 11 UTC
Right, Neo-Nazis go into minority neighborhoods deliberately to provoke a fight, then blame the violence on the counterprotesters. But they have no problem trying to bomb rallies held by civil rights groups, like MLK day parades.
Sicarius (673 D)
02 Dec 11 UTC
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/11/congress-to-vote-next-week-on-explicitly-creating-a-police-state.html
d31 (312 D(B))
02 Dec 11 UTC
Obama has threatened a veto, fortunately. Hopefully he won't cave like usual.
d31 (312 D(B))
02 Dec 11 UTC
Then again, Sen. Levin states that “it was the Obama administration which told Congress to remove the language in the original bill which exempted American citizens and lawful residents from the detention power.”
semck83 (229 D(B))
02 Dec 11 UTC
Doesn't mean he won't veto it. Nothing slicker than convincing other people to take a dive so you can be the good guy and veto.
Dang, would make me want to play diplomacy with him though.
Putin33 (111 D)
02 Dec 11 UTC
Obama is threatening a veto based on the fact that he thinks its the Executive who should make these decisions, not Congress.

Republicans stand for limited government, yeah right.
semck83 (229 D(B))
02 Dec 11 UTC
Has the House passed this yet? It is not clear from the link.
Putin33 (111 D)
02 Dec 11 UTC
House passed a similar measure but without the controversial Levin-McCain provisions. But I'd imagine the House GOP would go along with the changes in conference committee.
Sicarius (673 D)
02 Dec 11 UTC
So why is america not a totalitarian police state again?
stratagos (3269 D(S))
02 Dec 11 UTC
Sic: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/01/syria-death-toll-4000-un

Not saying we don't have flaws in any sense of the word, nor that I'm overly fond of the complete erosion of civil liberties over the last decade, but there are police states, and there are police states.
semck83 (229 D(B))
03 Dec 11 UTC
Well, this nonsense passed 93-7.

In opposition were 3 Dems, 3 Republicans, and 1 socialist.

Incredible.
Sicarius (673 D)
03 Dec 11 UTC
The Obama administration has affirmed, continued and expanded almost all of the draconian domestic civil liberties intrusions pioneered under the Bush administration. Here are twenty examples of serious assaults on the domestic rights to freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of association, the right to privacy, the right to a fair trial, freedom of religion, and freedom of conscience that have occurred since the Obama administration has assumed power. Consider these and then decide if there is any fundamental difference between the Bush presidency and the Obama presidency in the area of domestic civil liberties.

Patriot Act

On May 27, 2011, President Obama, over widespread bipartisan objections, approved a Congressional four year extension of controversial parts of the Patriot Act that were set to expire. In March of 2010, Obama signed a similar extension of the Patriot Act for one year. These provisions allow the government, with permission from a special secret court, to seize records without the owner’s knowledge, conduct secret surveillance of suspicious people who have no known ties to terrorist groups and to obtain secret roving wiretaps on people.

Criminalization of Dissent and Militarization of the Police

Anyone who has gone to a peace or justice protest in recent years has seen it – local police have been turned into SWAT teams, and SWAT teams into heavily armored military. Officer Friendly or even Officer Unfriendly has given way to police uniformed like soldiers with SWAT shields, shin guards, heavy vests, military helmets, visors, and vastly increased firepower. Protest police sport ninja turtle-like outfits and are accompanied by helicopters, special tanks, and even sound blasting vehicles first used in Iraq. Wireless fingerprint scanners first used by troops in Iraq are now being utilized by local police departments to check motorists. Facial recognition software introduced in war zones is now being used in Arizona and other jurisdictions. Drones just like the ones used in Kosovo, Iraq and Afghanistan are being used along the Mexican and Canadian borders. These activities continue to expand under the Obama administration.

Wiretaps

Wiretaps for oral, electronic or wire communications, approved by federal and state courts, are at an all-time high. Wiretaps in year 2010 were up 34% from 2009, according to the Administrative Office of the US Courts.


Criminalization of Speech

Muslims in the US have been targeted by the Obama Department of Justice for inflammatory things they said or published on the internet. First Amendment protection of freedom of speech, most recently stated in a 1969 Supreme Court decision, Brandenberg v Ohio, says the government cannot punish inflammatory speech, even if it advocates violence unless it is likely to incite or produce such action. A Pakistani resident legally living in the US was indicted by the DOJ in September 2011 for uploading a video on YouTube. The DOJ said the video was supportive of terrorists even though nothing on the video called for violence. In July 2011, the DOJ indicted a former Penn State student for going onto websites and suggesting targets and for providing a link to an explosives course already posted on the internet.

Domestic Government Spying on Muslim Communities

In activities that offend freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and several other laws, the NYPD and the CIA have partnered to conduct intelligence operations against Muslim communities in New York and elsewhere. The CIA, which is prohibited from spying on Americans, works with the police on “human mapping”, commonly known as racial and religious profiling to spy on the Muslim community. Under the Obama administration, the Associated Press reported in August 2011, informants known as “mosque crawlers,” monitor sermons, bookstores and cafes.

Top Secret America

In July 2010, the Washington Post released “Top Secret America,” a series of articles detailing the results of a two year investigation into the rapidly expanding world of homeland security, intelligence and counter-terrorism. It found 1,271 government organizations and 1,931 private companies work on counterterrorism, homeland security and intelligence at about 10,000 locations across the US. Every single day, the National Security Agency intercepts and stores more than 1.7 billion emails, phone calls and other types of communications. The FBI has a secret database named Guardian that contains reports of suspicious activities filed from federal, state and local law enforcement. According to the Washington Post Guardian contained 161,948 files as of December 2009. From that database there have been 103 full investigations and at least five arrests the FBI reported. The Obama administration has done nothing to cut back on the secrecy.

Other Domestic Spying

There are at least 72 fusion centers across the US which collect local domestic police information and merge it into multi-jurisdictional intelligence centers, according to recent report by the ACLU. These centers share information from federal, state and local law enforcement and some private companies to secretly spy on Americans. These all continue to grow and flourish under the Obama administration.

Abusive FBI Intelligence Operations

The Electronic Frontier Foundation documented thousands of violations of the law by FBI intelligence operations from 2001 to 2008 and estimate that there are over 4000 such violations each year. President Obama issued an executive order to strengthen the Intelligence Oversight Board, an agency which is supposed to make sure the FBI, the CIA and other spy agencies are following the law. No other changes have been noticed.

Wikileaks

The publication of US diplomatic cables by Wikileaks and then by main stream news outlets sparked condemnation by Obama administration officials who said the publication of accurate government documents was nothing less than an attack on the United States. The Attorney General announced a criminal investigation and promised “this is not saber rattling.” Government officials warned State Department employees not to download the publicly available documents. A State Department official and Columbia officials warned students that discussing Wikileaks or linking documents to social networking sites could jeopardize their chances of getting a government job, a position that lasted several days until reversed by other Columbia officials. At the time this was written, the Obama administration continued to try to find ways to prosecute the publishers of Wikileaks.

Censorship of Books by the CIA

In 2011, the CIA demanded extensive cuts from a memoir by former FBI agent Ali H. Soufan, in part because it made the agency look bad. Soufan’s book detailed the use of torture methods on captured prisoners and mistakes that led to 9-11. Similarly, a 2011 book on interrogation methods by former CIA agent Glenn Carle was subjected to extensive black outs. The CIA under the Obama administration continues its push for censorship.

Blocking Publication of Photos of U.S. Soldiers Abusing Prisoners

In May 2009, President Obama reversed his position of three weeks earlier and refused to release photos of US soldiers abusing prisoners. In April 2009, the US Department of Defense told a federal court that it would release the photos. The photos were part of nearly 200 criminal investigations into abuses by soldiers.

Technological Spying

The Bay Area Transit System, in August 2011, hearing of rumors to protest against fatal shootings by their police, shut down cell service in four stations. Western companies sell email surveillance software to repressive regimes in China, Libya and Syria to use against protestors and human rights activists. Surveillance cameras monitor residents in high crime areas, street corners and other governmental buildings. Police department computers ask for and receive daily lists from utility companies with addresses and names of every home address in their area. Computers in police cars scan every license plate of every car they drive by. The Obama administration has made no serious effort to cut back these new technologies of spying on citizens.

Use of “State Secrets” to Shield Government and Others from review

When the Bush government was caught hiring private planes from a Boeing subsidiary to transport people for torture to other countries, the Bush administration successfully asked the federal trial court to dismiss a case by detainees tortured because having a trial would disclose “state secrets” and threaten national security. When President Obama was elected, the state secrets defense was reaffirmed in arguments before a federal appeals court. It continues to be a mainstay of the Obama administration effort to cloak their actions and the actions of the Bush administration in secrecy.

In another case, it became clear in 2005 that the Bush FBI was avoiding the Fourth Amendment requirement to seek judicial warrants to get telephone and internet records by going directly to the phone companies and asking for the records. The government and the companies, among other methods of surveillance, set up secret rooms where phone and internet traffic could be monitored. In 2008, the government granted the companies amnesty for violating the privacy rights of their customers. Customers sued anyway. But the Obama administration successfully argued to the district court, among other defenses, that disclosure would expose state secrets and should be dismissed. The case is now on appeal.

Material Support

The Obama administration successfully asked the US Supreme Court not to apply the First Amendment and to allow the government to criminalize humanitarian aid and legal activities of people providing advice or support to foreign organizations which are listed on the government list as terrorist organizations. The material support law can now be read to penalize people who provide humanitarian aid or human rights advocacy. The Obama administration Solicitor General argued to the court “when you help Hezbollah build homes, you are also helping Hezbollah build bombs.” The Court agreed with the Obama argument that national security trumps free speech in these circumstances.

Chicago Anti-war Grand Jury Investigation

In September 2010, FBI agents raided the homes of seven peace activists in Chicago, Minneapolis and Grand Rapids seizing computers, cell phones, passports, and records. More than 20 anti-war activists were issued federal grand jury subpoenas and more were questioned across the country. Some of those targeted were members of local labor unions, others members of organizations like the Arab American Action Network, the Columbia Action Network, the Twin Cities Anti-War Campaign and the Freedom Road Socialist Organization. Many were active internationally and visited resistance groups in Columbia and Palestine. Subpoenas directed people to bring anything related to trips to Columbia, Palestine, Jordan, Syria, Israel or the Middle East. In 2011, the home of a Los Angeles activist was raided and he was questioned about his connections with the September 2010 activists. All of these investigations are directed by the Obama administration.

Punishing Whistleblowers

The Obama administration has prosecuted five whistleblowers under the Espionage Act, more than all the other administrations in history put together. They charged a National Security Agency advisor with ten felonies under the Espionage Act for telling the press that government eavesdroppers were wasting hundreds of millions of dollars on misguided and failed projects. After their case collapsed, the government, which was chastised by the federal judge as engaging in unconscionable conduct allowed him to plead to a misdemeanor and walk. The administration has also prosecuted former members of the CIA, the State Department, and the FBI. They even tried to subpoena a journalist and one of the lawyers for the whistleblowers.

Bradley Manning

Army private Bradley Manning is accused of leaking thousands of government documents to Wikileaks. These documents expose untold numbers of lies by US government officials, wrongful killings of civilians, policies to ignore torture in Iraq, information about who is held at Guantanamo, cover ups of drone strikes and abuse of children and much more damaging information about US malfeasance. Though Daniel Ellsberg and other whistleblowers say Bradley is an American hero, the US government has jailed him and is threatening him with charges of espionage which may be punished by the death penalty. For months Manning was held in solitary confinement and forced by guards to sleep naked. When asked about how Manning was being held, President Obama personally defended the conditions of his confinement saying he had been assured they were appropriate and meeting our basic standards.

Solitary Confinement

At least 20,000 people are in solitary confinement in US jails and prisons, some estimate several times that many. Despite the fact that federal, state and local prisons and jails do not report actual numbers, academic research estimates tens of thousands are kept in cells for 23 to 24 hours a day in supermax units and prisons, in lockdown, in security housing units, in “the hole”, and in special management units or administrative segregation. Human Rights Watch reports that one-third to one-half of the prisoners in solitary are likely mentally ill. In May 2006, the UN Committee on Torture concluded that the United States should “review the regimen imposed on detainees in supermax prisons, in particular, the practice of prolonged isolation.” The Obama administration has taken no steps to cut back on the use of solitary confinement in federal, state or local jails and prisons.

Special Administrative Measures

Special Administrative Measures (SAMS) are extra harsh conditions of confinement imposed on prisoners (including pre-trial detainees) by the Attorney General. The U.S. Bureau of Prisons imposes restrictions such segregation and isolation from all other prisoners, and limitation or denial of contact with the outside world such as: no visitors except attorneys, no contact with news media, no use of phone, no correspondence, no contact with family, no communication with guards, 24 hour video surveillance and monitoring. The DOJ admitted in 2009 that several dozen prisoners, including several pre-trial detainees, mostly Muslims, were kept incommunicado under SAMS. If anything, the use of SAMS has increased under the Obama administration.

These twenty concrete examples document a sustained assault on domestic civil liberties in the United States under the Obama administration. Rhetoric aside, how different has Obama been from Bush in this area?

by Bill Quigley
Sicarius (673 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
Good article from salon

http://www.salon.com/2011/12/01/congress_endorsing_military_detention_a_new_aumf/singleton/
Sicarius (673 D)
08 Dec 11 UTC
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=37538


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orathaic (1009 D(B))
07 Dec 11 UTC
DNWC
diplomacy nations World Cup...

anyone else playing?
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Hugo_Stiglitz (100 D)
08 Dec 11 UTC
My Triumphant Return
Yes, after weeks of a harrowing work schedule (followed by months of forgetting my password here), I make my return.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HxYuCsj26s
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