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Adam Bomb (100 D)
09 Dec 11 UTC
Doctor Who: the New or the Old orOld or Old or Old.....???
An almost perpendicular thread to my tiring Socialism thread.
Who's your favorite Doctor???
Mafialligator (239 D)
09 Dec 11 UTC
Not having watched very much of the show, David Tennant.
ghug (5068 D(B))
09 Dec 11 UTC
I watched a few of the older ones when I was older, but I really got into it when they revived it with the ninth Doctor. I'll probably have to agree with Mafia on this one.
DoctorJingles (212 D)
09 Dec 11 UTC
i would also have to say David Tennant. i love doctor who sooooo much lol
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
09 Dec 11 UTC
...They all still confuse the hell out of me? LOL

I don't know the numbers...

-Tom Baker I liked, he reminds me of a cheekier Sherlock Holmes...
-Some blond guy...with a vest (and celery, for some reason) was alright...
-Christopher Eccelston kind of bored me, to be honest...but I only saw him once
-David Tennant I like as an actor period, so he was fun to watch...
-I want to punch Matt Smith in the face, I can't try and get into DW with him in this role...his face and character and acting just screams "Hit me! PLEASE hit me, right in the kisser, PLEASE!"
ghug (5068 D(B))
09 Dec 11 UTC
Matt Smith is good, but not great. My only problem with the last few seasons that Steven Moffat took over as head writer, and while he's still good, he's no Russell T. Davies.
WardenDresden (239 D(B))
09 Dec 11 UTC
Tennant all the way.
Imperator Dux (603 D(B))
09 Dec 11 UTC
My favorite? Tom Baker.
Patrick Troughton - the Second Doctor.
Dharmaton (2398 D)
09 Dec 11 UTC
Tom Baker ;)
Pepijn (212 D(S))
09 Dec 11 UTC
Yeah, David Tennant it is, though Matt Smith is alright. I didn't watch many of the older ones.
Gobba (2209 D(G))
09 Dec 11 UTC
After watching the Doctor since the 1970's, I'll stick with Tom Baker.
Draugnar (0 DX)
09 Dec 11 UTC
Old Doctor's I love: Jon Pertwee, Patrick Troughton, Tom Baker, Sylvester McCoy, Colin Baker (although Peri Brown was annoying as a companion) - My favorite was probably Tom Baker.

New Doctors - I like Matt Smith but David Tennant is my favorite. Eccleston was too dark. Plus Tennant's term is when we get introduced to Torchwood.

Over all, I have to rate Tom Baker just a bit above David Tennant, but I think the new series is better over all. The writing is great and the effects so superior to the old Doctor's. But they are a very different medium, having gone from serials to a longer self-contained format.
Ernst_Brenner (782 D)
09 Dec 11 UTC
Tom Baker as doctor, Sarah Jane as companion, best line, "Eldrad must live!"
spyman (424 D(G))
10 Dec 11 UTC
Tom Baker and Jon Pertwee
Pete U (293 D)
10 Dec 11 UTC
Old Who - it's always the doctor you grew up with. For me that's Tom Baker. I don't remember Pertwee or earlier, and I remember the decline through Davidson, Baker (the worst doctor for me) and McCoy.

For New Who, I can't choose - I think Chris Ecclestone is a fine actor, and I'm sad he didn't do more than 1 series. Tennant is probably 'the' new Doctor in most people's heads, but Matt Smith is also amazing.

And I'm sorry, but anyone who thinks RTD is a better writer than The Moff is wrong. Much as I like their bodies of work (RTD's best work was 'The Second Coming', Moffat's is series 1-3 of 'Coupling'), Moffat is consistently better, and darker than RTD. Doctor Who should be scary, not have farting aliens in fat suits.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
10 Dec 11 UTC
I'll be honest:

Granted I'm a Who Newbie...and I DO like the dark episodes--I like darker Tom Baker ones I've seen--but...and this is granted a bias, but...

I'll take Doctor who-meets-Shakespeare-and-Witches vs. Who the HELL is this River Song person and a plot that throws me for a logical loop every time I try and catch on and catch up...

As a new fan trying to get into the series, it makes it convoluted--and for a show to continue, and gain new fans (like moia) it can't be so...
Pete U (293 D)
10 Dec 11 UTC
obi - convoluted is good. Too much TV keeps things simple, and has a reset button each week. TV that actually begins to require attention to follow the story is better. The best shows combine on off moments of brilliance (Blink, The Girl In The Fireplace, Midnight) with arc plots that run (in this case) over multiple series, and things you didn't even realise were plot points (such as the Doctor reisting Amy in the forest, when eeryone thought it was a continuity error)

And NewWho isn't that complex - I got that River was Amy's daughter as soon as she was preganant (and then wasn't) ;)
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
10 Dec 11 UTC
There's a difference between complexity and convolution, though...

And this just feels convoluted, like its grasping at straws to tie far too many plot points its raised together and reconcile it with the whole time travel concept somehow...

I'm just saying if I didn't know there were OTHER episodes, older, better ones, which had depth and yet didn't need to go on and on like this series...

I wouldn't bother to try figuring things out at all.

I point to The West Wing as a great example of a show that was complex, had many arcs...

But was never (Well, almost never, Season 5 was rough, but 1/7 so-so ones isn't bad) convoluted, you always knew what was going on...

Which is as it should be, so you could ask not "What?" but "WHY?"



And that's what all the best books and shows and plays--watching Ian McKellan's "King Lear" right now!--make you do, is ask "WHY?"

Spend too much time on "what," and it gets bogged down; I just finished "The Brothers Karamazov," 702 pages that could easily have been 500, but it spends the whole last third NOT making us ask why Ivan is driven mad by the whole God/no God thing, or why Aloysha has reacted as he has to Zossima's death and if he'll keep his faith or lose it, and why he'd do either, and why a God would allow evil, as Ivan asked...

But rather, it focus on what happened one night with a murder, and goes on and on and repeats itself like twelve of thirteen times over the same points...it plods!

And this last series...it felt plodding at times, I just wanted to shout "GET ON WITH IT!"

Not for a fast, TV-answer, but jsut because the pacing is set back when I get the feeling of delay, delay, retread, explain this, explain away that, cover this base, try and make sense of that...

It's Doctor Who!

I don't exactly turn in for the perfect exercises of logic...I gave up on that the moment I saw those humans get captured for the umpteenth time and the Doctor save them and the Trashcans of Doom somehow defeated despite their logical superiority...

And the Magical Sonic Screwdriver, that can do whatever the plot requires. :)

It's OK, it's about the absurdity and ideas, part Sherlock Holmes and part Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...THAT'S FINE!

GO WITH THAT!

The Hitch Hiker's Guide never stops to try and make sense of EVERYTHING...it's just "42, that's the answer to everything...why? 'Cause it is! Oh, and keep your towel with you!"

Improbability Drive...Police Box of Power...

Same difference to me.

So I was happy to see Doctor-meets-Shakespeare, or in the old series, Doctor-vs.-prototype-Nazi-Dalek-people...

Just go with it...stop trying to make it all make sense, it's absurdist, not Star Trek!

If I want technobabble and a logical plot and structure, I'll watch Picard or Kirk.
If I want a crazy good time that feels campy or creepy--with a dash of Shakespeare or spme other historical figure, or the awesome Trashcans of Doom--I'll watch the Doctor.

You can be artistic AND absurdist...

It needs to stop trying to make sense of its nonsense and just embrace it...

So sayeth the opinionated newbie. :)
Draugnar (0 DX)
10 Dec 11 UTC
@obi - You just don't get it... And that's OK.


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dr. octagonapus (210 D)
10 Dec 11 UTC
New World Dip. Game
game phase: 1 day
bet: 75

join please
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
10 Dec 11 UTC
OK, This HAS To Stop! America...THIS Is Why Your Colleges Are Failing!
Or one reason...jerks like the ones who are 1. Talking in a library on finals 2. Clearly set this girl off and 3. ARE SO SLEAZY AS TO TAPE HER, AND THEN GOAD HER SOME MORE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xbaDw7A6anA
WHY let jerks like that who don't want to work into our Cal States U's? They're already impacted! I feel for that Asian girl...
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Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
09 Dec 11 UTC
Favorite Word in the English language
Post your favorite word and definition and why.
Mine is : antidisestablishmentarionism, a movement to remove the church of england from power, and its sheer length and awesomeness is why I like it!
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President Eden (2750 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
Entering retirement to go to work... how about that.
See thread for details.
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franzjosefi (1291 D)
10 Dec 11 UTC
Most Important Centers on the Ancient Med Map
Quick straw poll. What is the most strategically vital center on the Ancient Med map? I think it is Byzantium.
7 replies
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Nelhybel (280 D)
10 Dec 11 UTC
Team Diplomacy Tournament
A tournament hosted by Diplomat33. "Game 1" is starting to wrap up, and we're all wondering...
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jireland20 (0 DX)
10 Dec 11 UTC
LIVE GAME!!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=74416
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
09 Dec 11 UTC
Friday Around The Horn! Sports Fans, Is It Safe To Say...
1. The NHL has leapfrogged the beleaguered NBA as 3rd most popular out of the Big Four Leagues (NFL way in first, MLB in a distant-but-decent 2nd?)
2. The USA's interest in the 2012 World Cup will be higher after the '08 run?
3. The Angels' Pujos/Wilson pickups make them favorites to make the LCS?
4. The Ravens have supplanted the Colts/Patriots/Steelers as the AFC Superteam?
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Argento (5723 D)
10 Dec 11 UTC
New game "For the old times..."
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=74401
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Sydney City (0 DX)
09 Dec 11 UTC
3 countries needed in live game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=74378&msgCountryID=6
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mrmuszynski (100 D)
09 Dec 11 UTC
Transferring control of a country
We have a player in our game who is not going to be able to continue because he is too busy with work and just doesn't have time to commit to playing well.

Is there a way for the mods to substitute another account for his, or should we just have someone sit on his account for the remainder of the game?
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
09 Dec 11 UTC
Mods!
Someone stole my lunch out of the fridge at work today! What are youvgoing to do about it??
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Trooth (561 D)
09 Dec 11 UTC
Whats your Favorite phrase?
I couldnt think of my favorite word because there are so many, but I was able to remember my favorite phrase:

off duty stripper...
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
07 Dec 11 UTC
WACcon 2012: Seattle
Anyone else going?!
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
09 Dec 11 UTC
Any mods online?
Care to message me if you are?
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
08 Dec 11 UTC
Albert Pujos Is Coming My Way To LA...ANGELS SIGN HIM! (WOW!)
I mean...WOW! Largest contract in history! 10 years, 254 MILLION $!
That's the Angels eclipsing the YANKEES contract to A-Rod, the YANKS!
And St. Louis...how do you NOT keep him whatever it takes!
Sell the Rams to Los Angeles, before you let Pujos go...WOW!
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chenf (689 D)
09 Dec 11 UTC
Let's see if we can get this filled in the next hour and half
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=74108

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Yonni (136 D(S))
09 Dec 11 UTC
Why aren't you watching Michael: Tuesday and Thursdays?
The fact that you're doing anything else at this moment is a travesty.
http://www.cbc.ca/michael/videos/
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Cachimbo (1181 D)
08 Dec 11 UTC
Best Webdip Quote of the Day
Post yours here.
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Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
06 Dec 11 UTC
Great Article About Diplomacy
http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/resources/humour/coast_moscow.htm

Well worth a read. Written by the maker of the game himself.
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
08 Dec 11 UTC
Mod Attention Please.
Hi Mods (again),
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Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
08 Dec 11 UTC
WebDip Poll: Am I a troll?
Vote Below with a +1 to the option you choose.
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killer135 (100 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
Riddles
post a riddle
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
06 Jul 11 UTC
SoW Summer 2011 Game 2
gameID=63029

Please follow the thread rules below
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
05 Dec 11 UTC
Will you be my friend?
I'm looking to start a game with people I haven't played before.
Game will be 36hour, WTA, low pot.
I reserve the right to not be friends with anyone I chose.
Post your interest below.
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rokakoma (19138 D)
08 Dec 11 UTC
Tigres et Diesel - EOG
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Babak (26982 D(B))
16 Nov 11 UTC
Something I have to share
Should be watched by as many people as possible. please share on your FB pages or email contact lists. Powerful and effective.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGR5UQJLQvU&list=PL75FD5B97013BAF01&index=6&feature=plpp_video
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
07 Dec 11 UTC
DNWC
diplomacy nations World Cup...

anyone else playing?
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Hugo_Stiglitz (100 D)
08 Dec 11 UTC
My Triumphant Return
Yes, after weeks of a harrowing work schedule (followed by months of forgetting my password here), I make my return.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HxYuCsj26s
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