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Cachimbo (1181 D)
12 Jun 11 UTC
New game: gameID=61317
Another day! Looking for a few good players that won't leave when the shit gets tough.
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holloway (509 D)
15 Jun 11 UTC
Culture and Imperialism-2: After game Discussion
Hello fellow players,
Any interest in a discussion on the second Culture and Imperialism game? ( http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=58253 )
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ButcherChin (370 D)
16 Jun 11 UTC
Sitters
Can someone explain to me how you get a sitter into one or more of your games? Because I'm going on a cruise in 4 days, and I can't use my phone there.
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Geofram (130 D(B))
15 Jun 11 UTC
Let's Go Vancouver!
They almost look like the leafs. =/
The cup belongs in Canada.
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taos (281 D)
16 Jun 11 UTC
i want to translate diplomacy
i want to translate diplomacy
i know english and spanish
who is in charge of that?
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Geofram (130 D(B))
15 Jun 11 UTC
Welcome dforce66!
I'd like to welcome a new member to our community. I had the chance to play a live gunboat with him earlier today.
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icecream777 (100 D)
15 Jun 11 UTC
LIVE GAME
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ezpickins (113 D)
15 Jun 11 UTC
error
i need help, everytime i log on, the website shows the last build phase as the current phase. i'm not sure what is going on, here's the game http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=57963
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Furball (237 D)
11 Jun 11 UTC
Japan.. How do we perceive them?
Hey guys, lets talk about Japan.
What are your thoughts on Japanese authorities allowing themselves to keep shrines for the old imperialist Generals in honor of their 'heroism'?
If you don't know what 'heroism' they have displayed in the past, than please I believe that we all have the right to know, and we can start this thread with those information.
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rkane (463 D)
14 Jun 11 UTC
How do I contact a Moderator
Hello, how do I contact a moderator about a likely violation of the rule about one person controlling two powers in a game?
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
15 Jun 11 UTC
Game with several people from Boston Ftf - open to anyone - game starts in 2.5 hours
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=61416

Join up guys pass = Boston
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DipCastGuys (100 D)
14 Jun 11 UTC
DiplomacyCast Episode 5 up tonight!

Enjoy it, everyone. Sorry about the delay.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
08 Jun 11 UTC
I Hate To Ask Another Religious Question, But...
...this one won't STOP, because so many of teh friends I know won't stop. I'm NOT questioning anyone's beliefs, I'm just curious as to the reason why some religious people--and I'll admit this is mainly Christians I mean here, but that's just from my own personal experience, so if this is not you, don't take offense--seem to thank Jesus or Gor for EVERYTHING...even when it's clearly something THEY did (like do well on a test...unless God REALLY CARES if you got that A+, why thank him?)
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
10 Jun 11 UTC
New Ghost-Ratings up
Usual site:

tournaments.webdiplomacy.net
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Dunecat (5899 D)
08 Jun 11 UTC
Spendy bet and three-day phases: WTA
Who wants to play? (This is the winner-take-all thread.)
1000-point bet, 3-day phases (shorter than a 4-day phase, longer than a 2-day phase, a 3-day phase should be just right), standard map
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Riphen (198 D)
15 Jun 11 UTC
Strike up a live game
Pretty good game up until Germany left. Yea a major power quitting is never good.

This is the usual moment were i rant about something but I will give it too Russia well played.
gameID=61513
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Dpromer (0 DX)
15 Jun 11 UTC
For the "Not Quite Professionals"
Everyone is either into the crazy expensive live games or the cheap live games. I would like to make a live game with the stakes approx. 100. This would be a winner takes all and a 5 min phase. Who would like to take the risk?
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
15 Jun 11 UTC
Replacement needed
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=61146

Anyone willing to pick up China? Its only the first year and it could be salvageable
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BenGuin (248 D)
14 Jun 11 UTC
Live Game Mulits Detected, Can Mods Respond QUICKLY!
In the Game Live!!!-4 gameID=61428#gamePanel I believe that

Russia: Libe userID=36148 and
Italy: Somewhat10 userID=29241 are Multis
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
14 Jun 11 UTC
Can we program a variant where a single player can play all seven powers?
I was wondering if it is possible to create a variant or a type of game where a single player could control all seven countries to test out certain strategies or to replay some games that were played elsewhere (not on wedip)?
No points/stat/Ghostrating will be used or rewarded of course.
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Gunfighter06 (224 D)
11 Jun 11 UTC
Best Inventors of All Time
Who are some of your favorites? What did the accomplish, and what year(s) was it done?
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Ivo_ivanov (7545 D)
14 Jun 11 UTC
New game, WTA, anon, 24h, 201 points
Please, express interest via PM or below. There're some selection criteria (CD's and experience/rating) ... can't really bother to define them, so let's say it's all subjective but everyone is welcome :)

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=61488
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TiresiasBC (388 D)
13 Jun 11 UTC
Insomniacs unite!
If you are up because you can't or don't want to sleep, even though you really should be, post here. Let's count and prove whether or not we are few or many.
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Serioussham (446 D)
14 Jun 11 UTC
New Game!
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Mafialligator (239 D)
08 Jun 11 UTC
Tell a joke!
There have been so many serious and argumentative threads lately, so I figured I'd lighten the mood. I remember a thread a while back that I enjoyed where people all shared jokes. I thought I'd make a new one rather than find the old one, (it was nearly a year ago). So share your favourite jokes, and laugh at everyone elses (or not I suppose, if they're not very good).
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The Czech (40297 D(S))
13 Jun 11 UTC
101 Point Live Gunboat
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JakeBob (100 D)
02 Jun 11 UTC
obama: yes or no
taking a poll on how many of you out there support/oppose obama. feel free to list all the reasons you like, or just your opinions :)
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Putin33 (111 D)
09 Jun 11 UTC
Fasces is not a fascist. He's trying to figure out his political views since he's very young. None of his professed views are particularly consistent with fascism. Nor does he cite any fascist philosopher or leader for inspiration. He said before that he called himself Fasces because he considered himself to be rightwing and fascism signifies being very rightwing. When you scratch the service you find out that he's pro-drug legalization, pro defense spending cuts, pro-gun control, and has generic neoliberal economic views.

Frankly I predict Fasces will be a generic Canadian liberal by the time he's out of school.
Putin33 (111 D)
09 Jun 11 UTC
*surface, holy christ
Fasces349 (0 DX)
09 Jun 11 UTC
"Just because somebody has a bit of braid on their sleeve or happens to be called "Congressman" doesn't automatically mean they're competent."
sorry but if your argueing with me your not doing a good job. The whole reason I am anti-democracy is because of what happens in congress.
Very rarely are competent leaders elected.

"Fasces seems to worship at the altar of Authority."
Well can you name a better alter? I am libertarian in almost every aspect of politics. However the army needs a competent central management for it to work properly. It also needs competent field officers...
The fact is the (main) reason why America won the pacific war was following the battle of Midway, it was evident that a carrier was worth a few battleships. As a result the Americans were quick to change from a mixed doctrine to a carrier focused naval doctrine. The Japanese did not and had a tougher time and lost key naval battles due to their battleship focus.
Good leaders in the military are quick to adjust strategy's as new weapons are introduced from better tech. And in times of peace, your right the best way to join authority is to emulate thinking of this in it. However during war time, its those introducing new good tactics that will move up the ranks.

""Fasces seems to worship at the altar of Authority." Well he is a fascist..."
lol, this isn't the first time I have been called a fascist and wont be the last.
Tolstoy (1962 D)
09 Jun 11 UTC
"Or because they're good at bureaucratic infighting, or they've attached themselves like lampreys to the right mentor, or..."

Genghis +10. I've met a lot of middle-manager types in private industry and government and have been simply shocked by the amount of incompetence in both once the salaries breach the six figure mark. The competent people are always kept at the bottom of the pyramid because the incompetent people running the show need them there to make sure the wheels keep turning. In fact, there are more than a handful of "how to succeed in the corporate world" type books that discourage people from being "too good" at their job because in corporate bureaucracy-speak it makes them 'irreplaceable' in their position at the bottom rung of the ladder.
Fasces349 (0 DX)
09 Jun 11 UTC
@Putin not sure where to begin:
"Fasces is not a fascist."
Started with a fact. Allthough not completely true.
"He's trying to figure out his political views since he's very young"
you give me to much credit. I am 16, and allthough I admit I do change my views a lot (I was communist a 4 ago and a real fascist 3 years ago) some things have remained consistent. One of those is my discontent towards democracy. I have been deemed fascist as a result.

"None of his professed views are particularly consistent with fascism."
That is true, I am more fiscally right wing and socially liberal then fascism...

"Nor does he cite any fascist philosopher or leader for inspiration."
If you count Franco as a fascist leader then I have cited one.

"He said before that he called himself Fasces because he considered himself to be rightwing and fascism signifies being very rightwing."
My nick name at school is fasces for always taking the authoritative, or fascist side of quite a numerous political debates. That nickname eventually transfered online by me using it as a nickname. Decided it was better the having the names of sports starts that I admire.

"When you scratch the service you find out that he's pro-drug legalization, pro defense spending cuts, pro-gun control"
as I said social liberal. I never said I was pro defense cuts though. What I said was that certain parts of the defense is useless and isn't required. However I do agree that defense should be one of, if not the biggest part of the budget. I support Harper's jets but then again so did iggy.

"and has generic neoliberal economic views."
I don't get why its called neoliberalism when the views are fiscally conservative...
but this is true

"Frankly I predict Fasces will be a generic Canadian liberal by the time he's out of school."
I sincerely hope not. However question: by out of school do you mean out of high school or out of college? Because I'll be a credit short of graduation in 3 weeks so will technically be able to graduate after taking a course in sumer school, not that I want to.
Fasces349 (0 DX)
09 Jun 11 UTC
"I've met a lot of middle-manager types in private industry and government and have been simply shocked by the amount of incompetence in both once the salaries breach the six figure mark. The competent people are always kept at the bottom of the pyramid because the incompetent people running the show need them there to make sure the wheels keep turning. In fact, there are more than a handful of "how to succeed in the corporate world" type books that discourage people from being "too good" at their job because in corporate bureaucracy-speak it makes them 'irreplaceable' in their position at the bottom rung of the ladder."
I completely disagree, but am to tired to argue
Tolstoy (1962 D)
09 Jun 11 UTC
"As a result the Americans were quick to change from a mixed doctrine to a carrier focused naval doctrine. The Japanese did not and had a tougher time and lost key naval battles due to their battleship focus."

This is not true. The Japanese realized the importance of carrier aviation before the war even began; if you look at their shipbuilding efforts during the war, it was entirely carrier-centric. Two battleships were even converted to carriers during the war at great time and expense, as well as the planned third Yamato class that was under construction (Shinano). Japan didn't build a single battleship during the war aside from Musashi, and she was fairly near to completion when the war began.

In contrast, the US built something like a dozen battleships during the war, and even raised some of the sunken battleships at Pearl. And if the US had relied on carriers for the duration of the war, they never would've defeated the Japanese at Guadalcanal, which was entirely decided by nighttime surface battles, where carrier aircraft were useless. Battleships were still under construction up to the end of the war, and were still HEAVILY used to support invasion forces with shore bombardments, a role which carriers of the time simply couldn't competitively perform. And Leyte Gulf showed that reliance on carriers (particularly when commanded by blockheads) can be disasterous - it was battleships that stopped the Japanese at Surigao Straight, and sheer brazenness that saved Taffy 3 off Samar (and it would've been battleships, not carrier aircraft, that would've saved the day had the Japanese not withdrawn). Reliance on carrier aviation alone would've resulted in the worst military disaster in American history at Leyte Gulf.
Jack_Klein (897 D)
09 Jun 11 UTC
Ever heard the phrase "People rise to their level of incompetence?"

Think of it this way. Lets say our theoretical organization promotes people who do well. So you're good at X job. Great. You get promoted to do Y job. And you can do that one really well too. You get promoted up until you're only marginally competent at your job. Or worse, you suck at it. But demoting people isn't something that happens a lot, so you soldier on in a job that you're not terribly good at, but not so god-awful that you get fired.

As a result, you can get a lot of middle managers that were probably good lower managers or workers, but they're not good enough to move up.

I had a chief like that in the Navy... brilliant technician. Honestly, he knew the ins and outs of nearly every piece of gear we worked on. However, as a supervisor of 15 guys, he was frankly fucking terrible. When he took four of us to go work on a particular machine, he was great, but he wasn't able to make that transition from being a hands on leader to being an overall supervisor. Not his fault, he was quite literally promoted past his ability, and once he had, he can't be busted down to being a first class again. Not how it works.

So yes. Management can really suck due to shit like that.
Mafialligator (239 D)
09 Jun 11 UTC
Sorry, Fasces. I didn't mean any offense, I honestly thought you sincerely did self identify as fascist.
Putin33 (111 D)
09 Jun 11 UTC
I'd be interested in hearing how Fasces defines fascism.
Fasces349 (0 DX)
09 Jun 11 UTC
@toolstory: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Japanese_Navy#Battleships
@Jack: I admit that if your good at your job, promotions aren't necessarily the best thing but in theory, if your in a management position already and your good at your job, wouldn't being promoted to a management position of more responsibility make sense?
@Mafia: Its ok, I don't actually care
@Putin: based on the fact that I use to be a fascist?
Putin33 (111 D)
09 Jun 11 UTC
Sure.
Fasces349 (0 DX)
09 Jun 11 UTC
Well I was more fascist back in grade 8, I supported the holocaust (not entirely, I wasn't anti-semetic but I was in favor of exterminating the other races), I was less in favor of the free market and more just the government regulating the market as back then I believed a central government telling corporations what to do would make the corporations more efficient.
I thought that it was the fascist economic policies of Hitler and Mussolini that saved the world from the great depression, they kinda did but thats not the point.
I supported a huge standing army ready to go to war when need be.
Invictus (240 D)
09 Jun 11 UTC
How is supporting the extermination of the Jews not antisemitic?
Putin33 (111 D)
09 Jun 11 UTC
......He's an equal opportunity exterminator....

Christ. I'm sorry I asked.
Invictus (240 D)
09 Jun 11 UTC
"Well I was more fascist back in grade 8"

Anyone else find that chilling?
Fasces349 (0 DX)
09 Jun 11 UTC
"How is supporting the extermination of the Jews not antisemitic?"
Jews are Caucasian... I was referring to Negroids...

"Christ. I'm sorry I asked."
why?
Fasces349 (0 DX)
09 Jun 11 UTC
"Anyone else find that chilling?"
Look on the bright side, I have matured into a anti-democratic neo-liberal
Invictus (240 D)
09 Jun 11 UTC
Ugh. You're a scumbag.
Putin33 (111 D)
09 Jun 11 UTC
There are many ways one could "admire" fascism without celebrating/advocating the most barbaric and inhumane of its forms. Many conservatives manage to admire, for example, Mussolini, and point out that he didn't abide by Hitler's racial theories (which isn't fully true, but an argument could plausibly be made). Or they point out that Franco was a fairly mild fascist with a very good economic record, who was less bad than the evil Reds would have been (Buchanan makes this argument).

But no, you instead were so far gone that you make Hitler's National Socialist variant almost moderate by comparison.
Invictus (240 D)
09 Jun 11 UTC
Hm. Putin33 and I agree on something. Funny how opposing Nazism can bring people together.
Fasces349 (0 DX)
09 Jun 11 UTC
"There are many ways one could "admire" fascism without celebrating/advocating the most barbaric and inhumane of its forms. Many conservatives manage to admire, for example, Mussolini, and point out that he didn't abide by Hitler's racial theories (which isn't fully true, but an argument could plausibly be made). Or they point out that Franco was a fairly mild fascist with a very good economic record, who was less bad than the evil Reds would have been (Buchanan makes this argument). "
I still support Franco, as it was his rather conservative economic policies that strengthened Spains economy.

I use to, when my racism started to weaken to what is is now (in Gr 9), use the Mussolini argument and claimed he wasn't in favor of the holocaust.

"But no, you instead were so far gone that you make Hitler's National Socialist variant almost moderate by comparison"
How did my variant make Nazism moderate by comparison? Back then I believed that it was easy, or relatively easy, for a government to force others to their will decided that by using extreme reforms to eliminate those who were not wanted as well as a few other restrictions it could make the world a better place. I was 12 back then, call it naivety and immaturity.
Invictus (240 D)
09 Jun 11 UTC
But now you're 16 and all growed up.
Fasces349 (0 DX)
09 Jun 11 UTC
Or at least partially grown up. I have learnt it is harder to bend a man to your will then I thought, that Caucasians aren't completely the superior race, and that even if they are it doesn't justify the elimination of the others. I now know that a central government cannot predict everything in an economy, and cannot successfully control it.

However, I still strongly believe that mankind is dumb and that they should not have the right to elect a leader.
"......He's an equal opportunity exterminator...."

Hahahahahaha
Fasces349 (0 DX)
09 Jun 11 UTC
wouldn't that mean communist putin?
Jack_Klein (897 D)
09 Jun 11 UTC
So by your own rationale, you're dumb and you don't have the right to express political opinions?

Good to know. I'll judge you by your own standards then. :)
Putin33 (111 D)
09 Jun 11 UTC
That's sort of Groucho Marxian - "I refuse to join a club that have someone like me as a member".

Effective argument against democracy, I think.



Personally, I think Palin is a walking advertisement against the whole principle of self-government.
Fasces349 (0 DX)
09 Jun 11 UTC
Wasn't Groucho a comedian? I can agree with you on Palin, she is a total idiot.

@Jack: I would respond but I am not entitled to a political oppinion. This is the second time you have pulled that line on me :P
ashleygirl (1131 D)
09 Jun 11 UTC
If you don't mind me asking Fasces, what part of the country are you from?

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Draugnar (0 DX)
13 Jun 11 UTC
I wonder if Kestas knew...
Did he?
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Darwyn (1601 D)
03 Jun 11 UTC
R.I.P Dr. Jack Kevorkian
In the wake of the death of Dr. Kevorkian, let us discuss euthanasia...what are your thoughts about it? Do people have the right to choose to live or die as they wish?
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uclabb (589 D)
06 Jun 11 UTC
Ways to play with 6 people
Hey, I am playing diplomacy with some friends, and hope to have 7, but it is looking a little shaky.... Does anyone have any ideas for how to play with 6 besides just having a CD Italy?
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