"arab utopia? your putting a lot more words into my mouth than what I said. European intervention and terrorism by zionist factions are a fact. Arabs certainly fought back, but I presumed this is the more well known side of history. "

So... I'm putting words into your mouth, and then in the same post you go on to say, essentially, that yes there was peace, then the evil Zionist attacked and the arabs fought back.

Got it.

you all aren't providing history, that's for damned sure.

No pretty sure that's hyperbole

Or a strawman if you like, but either way you're progressing a huge derail of the topic at hand

Santa cant debate unless its against a strawman. Thats what he calls academics.

"Arabs defended themselves"

I am assuming that means that the massacres that occur ed in 1929 were defensive in nature correct?

"I got a phd fuckface. You want to compare academic dick sizes, thug? All you care about is your resume and yourself:".-----
So this does not get a reprimand ??

Gazans are being massacred, hospitals and schools are being bombed, do you have a problem with that santa or is it antisemitic to bring it up?

Email Zultar if you have a complaint, ssorenn. The mods can't monitor every thread 24 hours a day.

"Santa cant debate unless its against a strawman. Thats what he calls academics. "

Putin criticizing others about using strawmen

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and with that joke I'm off to work. You keep telling your jokes Putin!

Or are all attacks on evacuation centers and un schools justified?

I actually dont have a problem with it....i just thought the police did

He wants to bring up personal backgroung in every debate, ssoren. I was responding tohis smears.

no attacks on evacuation centers and un schools are justified. This war is unjustified and Netanyahu should be prosecuted.

The biggest joke of all just left for 'work'

Putin, i dont care a little bit what you were doing. I'm bring up the line and i looking for when its crossed.....you know as well as i , that i dont have a problem with it...i like to bash verbally when i think its appropriate as well

"I am assuming that means that the massacres that occur ed in 1929 were defensive in nature correct? "

what is it about 1929 that makes it special over say 1921, 1920, or 1917? Why are you set on this one example? Why do you insist on derailing this further?

I honestly would not like the mods involved, if Putin's response to his life problems is to bully people on here, let him. It only affects you if you let it.

Massacres against Arabs dont count, duh.

What people don't want to know and admit to is that Jews have lived in Israel through the Roman Occupation to the present. Jews bought land after World War I in Israel. The place was already Jewish before the UN resolutions so it wasn't Jews suddenly seizing the land. After the Arabs declared war, Israel captured lands just like any other power that wins a war. Just like the US, European countries, Arab countries, and even North Vietnam.

The UNRWA doesn't want an end to the Palestinian problem since they have been around almost as long as the UN and would lose a major political fiefdom. These are career politicians that would be out of their jobs.

Glad to see youre off to work, Draugnar.

"what is it about 1929 that makes it special over say 1921, 1920, or 1917? Why are you set on this one example? Why do you insist on derailing this further? "

You derailed it, you made a fucking awful argument that the roots of this gaza operation is Jewish aggression since before the UN partition, which was one sided. I am pointing out that that argument is bullshit, it seems now that you agree, or do you? "Arabs defended themselves" Your bias speaks for itself.

"Glad to see youre off to work, Draugnar."


Work starts at 9, Did Jamiet teach you about timezones?

They seized land prior to the Arab invasion in a premeditated campaign of displacement, but nope always the victim, even when theyre the executioners.

Did Putin just make a multi accusation?

get him jamiet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What does timezones have to do with you claiming youre off to work?

nah, he's saying that i should be at work, but like you he doesn't understand time zones. You two should form a flat earth committee together

Israel wasnt all Jewish since Roman times, a handful lived in the Yishuv.