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gameID=98520 gg all. Not sure if I have too much to say but I did enjoy the game. Thanks everyone for playing. 7:50 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ-k3YqQ7IE&sns=em
The Great Chase--12 Teams, 1 Goal...The Road to the Super Bowl...PLAYOFF PICK 'EM!
RGIII and the Redskins partied like it was 1999 again! Adrian Peterson came up 9 YDs short of a record, but just got the Vikings in! Peyton's Broncons keep rising and Houston keeps slip-sliding away! Seattle won the division by my Niners are STILL Division Chaps! 12 teams, 2 Super Bowl Contenders...WILD CARD! DIVISION! CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS! SUPER BOWL! PLAYOFF PICK 'EM!
Can I move a fleet from Bulgaria's South Coast to Constantinople at the exact same time as I move a fleet from Constantinople to Bulgaria's north coast?
An All-Male Discussion on Feminism, "Feminism," and Atheism...This Should Be Fun...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKKQdJR7F_I Frankly, I think that's a fair point--these people do NOT represent a very good side of either feminism or atheism, in my opinion...there's Feminism, and then there's "Feminism" or, as it might otherwise be put, "Demanding that everyone agree with your views full stop or else libeling them." Real feminism and real atheism is, I think, being somewhat "poisoned" by this increasingly-smug, self-assured band of PC Police.
For the purposes of this conversation, please ignore any psychological effects (such as the idea of progress, and how this inspires people to try to improve themselves and their lives)
I'm in a gunboat at the moment where one of the players - who has no shot at winning anymore - has decided to hold every turn giving SCs to the largest player, in effect throwing the game. I'd prefer if he would just CD so we can get somebody else. Are there any (un)written good practices?
Discuss. I haven't followed this as much as a lot of people, so while I have some opinions, I'mre more interested in hearing those of others. What did you think of his apology? Where does the public go from here vis-a-vis Armstrong?
I am wondering if there are people out there who would be interested in playing a game where for what ever power you take. You take on the character of that National leader e.g. England you are King George, Germany The Kaiser. Grandiose communications, and the like. What do u think.
I'd be interested to know how they came to their weighting and formulae. Unfortunately, they're not publishing the algorithm. It's a little frustrating as it would be an interesting piece of discussion for the diplomacy community. Guess open source hobby building isn't a two way street. http://www.playdiplomacy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=129&t=34913
Noobie question: creating a private game and sending an invite?
I want to start a new game for my RL friends. How should I get them into my game? The "search" options for new games doesn't seem to have a title/keyword search option.
Iran nukes... for energy for or weaponry? The common good or the (potential) good of the Iranian government alone? Which are they? For you to decide...
Am I the only one on this forum who thinks tomatoes are an overrated vegetable?
It's basically a red sack of water right? I'm trying to sort of evaluate (with shear power of the mind) to determine if it really should be in the "two ounces of vegetables and two fruits" zone or in the "drink 2 liters of water a day" zone.
they aren't popular opinion, they're polls taken from various research institutions. One of them, for instance, was done by a bipartisan commitee of political historians drawn from all ends of the political spectrum.
You'd have to look at them individually to see how they did it, but in the absence of something better, I think it's a fine metric for us.
Getting your tenses wrong, YJ. Fasces didn't say that everybody "ranks" RR in the top 3. He said everybody "ranked" RR in the top 3 except ghug. He is correct. So he's also correct that it's not possible RR could end up at #8 if you aggregated correctly. Try again.
semck. To your first, OK, I get it now. I thought he was talking about the polls on the link I sent.
To the second, I didn't calculate the aggregate, it was done on the link provided. Lacking anything comparable that's easily available I'm using it as "truth" against which our scores can be compared.
Just take your the absolute value of the difference between your score and the aggregate score for each president. So you score "0" for FDR cuz you hit it spot on, but you loose 6 for overrating Clinton, etc.
Alright 1. FDR (0) 2. Wilson (0) 3. Clinton (6) 4. Eisenhower (0) 5. Truman (2) 6. Kennedy (1) 7. Coolidge (7) (Why the hell did I put him that high? Coolidge sucked) 8. Reagan (0) 9. Nixon (6) 10. Obama (3) 11. George H. W. Bush (1) 12. Johnson (6) 13. Carter (1) 14. Ford (3) 15. Bush (1) 16. Harding (1) 17. Hoover (4)
42 Total
I do have issues with this list, as people like Clinton and Nixon would really be rated higher if we weren't considering the fact that they're terrible people.
@Yellowjacket: I ommitted the polls that I didn't trust the source, as well as the really old polls. I also admitted the 2010 Sienna one because it rated obama based on the first 13 months of his presidency, which is hell of an unreliable rating.
Based on that here was the aggregates: 1 Franklin D. Roosevelt 2 Harry S. Truman 3 Dwight D. Eisenhower 3 Ronald Reagan 5 Woodrow Wilson 6 John F. Kennedy 7 Lyndon B. Johnson 8 Bill Clinton 9 George H. W. Bush 10 Gerald Ford 11 Calvin Coolidge 12 Jimmy Carter 13 Richard Nixon 14 George W. Bush 15 Herbert Hoover 16 Warren G. Harding
The fact that I didn't include Harding, Coolidge or Wilson in my list here is the updated to test my rating score or whatever YJ wants to call it: 1 Franklin D. Roosevelt 2 Harry S. Truman 3 Dwight D. Eisenhower 3 Ronald Reagan 5 John F. Kennedy 6 Lyndon B. Johnson 7 Bill Clinton 8 George H. W. Bush 9 Gerald Ford 10 Jimmy Carter 11 Richard Nixon 12 George W. Bush 13 Herbert Hoover
My ratings: 1 Ike (2) 2 Ron (1) 3 Bill (4) 4 JFK (1) 5 Harry (3) 6 Dick (5) 7 Ford (2) 8 FDR (7) 9 HW (1) 10 Johnson (4) 11 W (1) 12 Hoover (1) 13 Carter (3)
For a total of 35. Of course my list is 3 presidents shorter the yours so its easier to get a low number.
"Fasces, that seems like some really biased poll removal." On what grounds? I removed the old ones because they omitted all the new presidents, I omitted the ones that judged presidents midterm, and I omitted one other for a reason I forget. :D
Reomitting ones that judged Presidents midterm: The 2000 WSJ and 2008 Time were no omitted despite including a midterm president because in both cases the survey was done during the Presidents final year in office, rather then just at the end of his first year.
I just mean that, without looking at the specific polls that were removed, it seems to me that your removal of polls make the aggregate consensus align much more closely with your ratings (just tallying up your thirteen against the original aggregate, your score is 47). I also still don't like your justifications for your omissions of several of them.
Why do you people love FDR so much? Under him, the depression lasted 11 years, and not only that, but he did pretty much the same thing as Hoover, only worse. Coolidge gets the top slot because he was a Capitalist, and didn't interfere in buisness.
His tenure happened to coincide with an international conflict known among historians as World War II. You'll wanna look into this event for your analyses.
1- FDR 2 - Truman 3 - Eisenhower 4 -Kennedy 5- LBJ 6 - Ronald Reagan 7 - Bill Clinton 8 - GHW Bush 9 - Ford 10 - Carter 11 - Hoover 12 - Nixon 13 - GW Bush
Lets see what my aggregate scores compared to YJs 1 Franklin D. Roosevelt (0) 2 Harry S. Truman (0) 3 Dwight D. Eisenhower (0) 3 Ronald Reagan (3) 5 John F. Kennedy (1) 6 Lyndon B. Johnson (1) 7 Bill Clinton (0) 8 George H. W. Bush (0) 9 Gerald Ford (0) 10 Jimmy Carter (0) 11 Richard Nixon (1) 12 George W. Bush (1) 13 Herbert Hoover (2)
A total of 10 and over half the presidents being identically placed. In fact if we omit two presidents on this list, they receive a score of 0...
watch: 1- FDR 2 - Truman 3 - Eisenhower 4 -Kennedy 5- LBJ 6 - Bill Clinton 7 - GHW Bush 8 - Ford 9 - Carter 10 - Nixon 11 - GW Bush
1 Franklin D. Roosevelt 2 Harry S. Truman 3 Dwight D. Eisenhower 4 John F. Kennedy 5 Lyndon B. Johnson 6 Bill Clinton 7 George H. W. Bush 8 Gerald Ford 9 Jimmy Carter 10 Richard Nixon 11 George W. Bush
I'm not even going to bother assembling a list. I'm a New-Deal-loving, Great-Society-pushing, Carter-defending Liberal who couldn't get unbiased if I wanted to (which I'm not sure I do).
I will, however, point out the idiocy of ranking Obama. It's like trying to rate Nixon's presidency as of 1972, or Clinton's in 1996.
I'm glad someone agrees with me Heck. The polls done on only bushes first term put bush at #20 (out of 50) include his second term and hes ranked 34th. And yet people say I'm bias for excluding both that poll and the poll that judged obama in early 2010.
That said new deal, great society and Carter all sucked.
I tend to think about these things in the spirit of Zhou Enlai. When Zhou was asked, ca. 1950, by a French reporter what his thoughts about the effect of the French Revolution were, he responded that it was too soon to tell. I don't think we can fully assess the legacy of the Civil War yet. Trying to decide about Bush the Lesser's legacy seems to me to be hopelessly premature.
Ranking the Presidents of the last 100 years.
and over half the presidents being identically placed. In fact if we omit two presidents on this list, they receive a score of 0...
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