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Adam Bomb (100 D)
09 Dec 11 UTC
Doctor Who: the New or the Old orOld or Old or Old.....???
An almost perpendicular thread to my tiring Socialism thread.
Who's your favorite Doctor???
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dr. octagonapus (210 D)
10 Dec 11 UTC
New World Dip. Game
game phase: 1 day
bet: 75

join please
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
10 Dec 11 UTC
OK, This HAS To Stop! America...THIS Is Why Your Colleges Are Failing!
Or one reason...jerks like the ones who are 1. Talking in a library on finals 2. Clearly set this girl off and 3. ARE SO SLEAZY AS TO TAPE HER, AND THEN GOAD HER SOME MORE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xbaDw7A6anA
WHY let jerks like that who don't want to work into our Cal States U's? They're already impacted! I feel for that Asian girl...
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Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
09 Dec 11 UTC
Favorite Word in the English language
Post your favorite word and definition and why.
Mine is : antidisestablishmentarionism, a movement to remove the church of england from power, and its sheer length and awesomeness is why I like it!
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President Eden (2750 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
Entering retirement to go to work... how about that.
See thread for details.
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franzjosefi (1291 D)
10 Dec 11 UTC
Most Important Centers on the Ancient Med Map
Quick straw poll. What is the most strategically vital center on the Ancient Med map? I think it is Byzantium.
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Nelhybel (280 D)
10 Dec 11 UTC
Team Diplomacy Tournament
A tournament hosted by Diplomat33. "Game 1" is starting to wrap up, and we're all wondering...
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jireland20 (0 DX)
10 Dec 11 UTC
LIVE GAME!!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=74416
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
09 Dec 11 UTC
Friday Around The Horn! Sports Fans, Is It Safe To Say...
1. The NHL has leapfrogged the beleaguered NBA as 3rd most popular out of the Big Four Leagues (NFL way in first, MLB in a distant-but-decent 2nd?)
2. The USA's interest in the 2012 World Cup will be higher after the '08 run?
3. The Angels' Pujos/Wilson pickups make them favorites to make the LCS?
4. The Ravens have supplanted the Colts/Patriots/Steelers as the AFC Superteam?
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Argento (5723 D)
10 Dec 11 UTC
New game "For the old times..."
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=74401
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Sydney City (0 DX)
09 Dec 11 UTC
3 countries needed in live game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=74378&msgCountryID=6
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mrmuszynski (100 D)
09 Dec 11 UTC
Transferring control of a country
We have a player in our game who is not going to be able to continue because he is too busy with work and just doesn't have time to commit to playing well.

Is there a way for the mods to substitute another account for his, or should we just have someone sit on his account for the remainder of the game?
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
09 Dec 11 UTC
Mods!
Someone stole my lunch out of the fridge at work today! What are youvgoing to do about it??
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Trooth (561 D)
09 Dec 11 UTC
Whats your Favorite phrase?
I couldnt think of my favorite word because there are so many, but I was able to remember my favorite phrase:

off duty stripper...
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
07 Dec 11 UTC
WACcon 2012: Seattle
Anyone else going?!
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
09 Dec 11 UTC
Any mods online?
Care to message me if you are?
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
08 Dec 11 UTC
Albert Pujos Is Coming My Way To LA...ANGELS SIGN HIM! (WOW!)
I mean...WOW! Largest contract in history! 10 years, 254 MILLION $!
That's the Angels eclipsing the YANKEES contract to A-Rod, the YANKS!
And St. Louis...how do you NOT keep him whatever it takes!
Sell the Rams to Los Angeles, before you let Pujos go...WOW!
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chenf (689 D)
09 Dec 11 UTC
Let's see if we can get this filled in the next hour and half
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=74108

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Yonni (136 D(S))
09 Dec 11 UTC
Why aren't you watching Michael: Tuesday and Thursdays?
The fact that you're doing anything else at this moment is a travesty.
http://www.cbc.ca/michael/videos/
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Cachimbo (1181 D)
08 Dec 11 UTC
Best Webdip Quote of the Day
Post yours here.
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Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
06 Dec 11 UTC
Great Article About Diplomacy
http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/resources/humour/coast_moscow.htm

Well worth a read. Written by the maker of the game himself.
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
08 Dec 11 UTC
Mod Attention Please.
Hi Mods (again),
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Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
08 Dec 11 UTC
WebDip Poll: Am I a troll?
Vote Below with a +1 to the option you choose.
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killer135 (100 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
Riddles
post a riddle
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
06 Jul 11 UTC
SoW Summer 2011 Game 2
gameID=63029

Please follow the thread rules below
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
27 Aug 11 UTC
On to F03: It seems that nothing is what it appears to be simply from glancing at the map. Things that looked one way last season look very differently in the autumn. For all you students, if you haven't learned how to read the board yet, now is the time to do so. Nearly half the board is coming away with growth and a fair portion is losing ground and there will be plenty of builds and destructions taking place that will indicate some things to come. Reading the board is a vital part of good Diplomacy and I would put money on the claim that anyone in the top 100 in GR has the ability to read the board fairly well.

In the West:

#1 France: Still on top with some nice and expected moves snagging two centers. Next season will spell some things out that I've been curious about. France will have a new enemy starting next year and the question boils down to who. This season I expect to see a fleet in Marseilles and an army in Paris. The French-German stalemate line is oddly empty and with new builds coming in this season, I expect to see at least one of them devoted to the line while the other probes for the new target. Italy is a primary target seeing no builds this year and two less centers than France but the going will be tough given that many of the French units will have to be devoted to the north to prevent a German stab because Germany will be doing some building and rearranging for the coming seasons as well (more on that below). Germany could also be a target for the new enemy given that G's relationship with R has been damaged. The biggest downside to this is the effort to cross their mutual border. Germany controls more units along that border and can easily out man France there and the only ways across would be via the French navy. Everyone should be reading the board after the winter phase goes through because depending on what that side of the board is like will determine the things to come.

#2 Germany: Germany is in a very strong position and one could argue that he's tied in the #1 spot for the west but his biggest downfall is that he's currently pinned between a French power that has more growth potential and no enemies on one side and a desperate Russia that continues to get slapped in the face by his prior German ally. It's a frequent thing to see F and G take out E only to have F and R squeeze him like the cream in a Diplomacy Oreo. He does have some very bright spots to his situation. The first is that he's coming away with 2 builds and the second is that France has next to nothing along the F/G border meaning that if France does indeed wish to cross it, Germany can easily get there first. This is truly where the move to Belgium pays off. Lastly, I really liked the self-standoff at Burgundy because it ensures the safety of Burgundy until additional units can be devoted to its defense. For builds, I expect to see an army in Kiel and fleet in Berlin. Anything else is screaming information.

#3 England: Still hanging on. The loss of Denmark isn't much of a surprise and you'd better believe that the support hold at Norway was only to keep Russia from gaining ground. Next year you'll lose the last of your centers. Germany will have an army in Edi and follow that with a fleet in Norway. I would put your downfall at the 01 builds with the double fleet and no armies on the Island. If you're losing, you can't expect to stay afloat unless you have an army on your home soil. It's more maneuverable than a clunky fleet and you can often stalemate someone from getting any builds and force their hand into allying with you if they know that you'll give all of your centers to the other guy. I'm sure that things went south diplomatically, but someone had to lose, so don't take this one to heart.

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In the East:
#1 Italy: This lead isn't necessarily fragile but it's not the #1 spot one might expect given that it's going into 1904. Usually by this point, one power in the east has 6-7 units or is at least keeping pace with the west. The west will see the downfall of their first player while the east continues to see shifting with no clear leader. No builds for the second straight season means that you're in danger of being the target of a new power. Your army is still on Tunis after a second straight botched convoy, you've got a fleet all the way in the Eastern Med with no allies there to support you, and I highly doubt you'll see any gains in the coming year. The double support hold along Austria's northern border was poorly planned and it should have been you with the build at Vienna and not Austria with a build coming in. To be truthful, you really shouldn't be in the top spot in the east but you are because no one has any real power to oppose that at this point. If things continue as they are, you won't be there next year. You need to pull yourself together, select a target, and make some real ground. If you don't get a build next year, you can count yourself out of this game. I don't mean for this to come across as so harsh, but sometimes sugar and spice doesn't get the job done.

#2 Austria: You're back on the upswing, I must say. You had some really great moves and a touch of luck on your side to see you on to where you are now. You'll have a much-needed army coming into play this phase and you'll have room to expand next year. I love the support of Turkey into Bulgaria and moving to Greece behind him whether it was agreed upon or not. If it was, more power to you. If not, oh well. You'll be seeing new gains next year at either Bulgaria or Warsaw, possibly both and even be able to keep Italy at bay if things go smoothly. Last year you were in danger of sliding to the bottom power in the east and Russia's heightened growth gave you some breath in your lungs. Your units are condensed and not spread out and you have very few holes in your defense. Next year will be really good to you. I expect to see a build in Budapest.

#3 Russia: Back down again. This season was not good to you at all. The worst move I saw out of you was the self-standoff at Sevastopol. Why? You had to have known that you weren't going to get any builds and were instead going to lose units, so it would have been far better for you to move Mos-Sev and use Ukr to support Rum. The fact that Austria now has an army in Rumania and one in Galicia is very bad news for you. Destroying a unit is going to be a very tough call. The biggest problem with Russia is that once you begin to decline, your elimination is almost a guarantee. On the one hand, if you ditch a unit in the north, you'll certainly have no claim over Norway and likely lose Sevastopol of Germany pushes the envelope in the north and continues to bring the fight to you but if you lose a unit in the south, you're opening up a hole somewhere along the line that will allow one of your numerous opponents to slip in. You'll need 2 units in Turkish soil in order to maintain control of your center down there but you'll need the two you have in your midsection even more in order to create some measure of stability. Your brightest speck of light is that you now have some negotiating room to lend to some of the players on the map. Diplomacy is the only thing that's going to get you out of this situation. I will say this as an aid, do as much as you can diplomatically before you submit your disband. I'm going to guess that the disband will be in Turkish soil, probably Syria.

#4 Turkey: Still at the bottom but I'd rather be in your shoes than England's or Russia's. You managed to stay afloat through a series of very bizarre twists. Italy supports you into Austria-controlled Greece in the spring and then Austria supports you out of Greece into Russia-controlled Bulgaria in the fall. Not sure who your ally is, but you've got to have one somewhere. I disagree with the self-standoff, though. I think it would have been better for you to move out of the Black Sea into Constantinople because Russia's got some disbanding to do and if he picks one of your zones, you might see a build coming. Things are still on the edge of a knife for you since an Austrian ally isn't a solid one and you've still got some negotiating to do in order to pull yourself up. I'd be talking pretty heavily with everyone because no one in the east has any room to turn away an ally and you've got some pretty key things to offer.


Things to look for:
In the west: French and German builds. These builds will speak volumes and the entire board had better tune in.

In the east: Who's going to seal the top spot? The west has essentially dropped down to 2 players and by now the east should have been down to 3 but all of the back-and-forth has changed the dynamic of what's going on and given the west a lot of unnecessary power. If France and Germany are going to continue to ally, they'll have a lot of stakes to place in eastern soil in the coming year. Someone needs to pull up and take the top spot. I expect that only 1 or 2 players will see builds next year with the remainder holding or losing ground. Second, what unit is Russia disbanding? This will also indicate some information for the careful reader. Lastly, will Italy ever get off Africa? At this point I believe that the army is manned by Gilligan.
Scmoo472 (1933 D)
27 Aug 11 UTC
Would you mind touching on the alliance factor? You've talked a lot about the moves, and explained them. You haven't talked a lot about the alliances that were chosen/wasn't and explained why the worked.
Scmoo472 (1933 D)
28 Aug 11 UTC
Bump+ Question above. (It dropped to the 2nd page in less than 24 hours. O.0)
jmo1121109 (3812 D)
28 Aug 11 UTC
Students are not allowed to ask questions in this thread until after the game is finished.
Cachimbo (1181 D)
28 Aug 11 UTC
Why not?
Damn! I did it again...

(disclaimer: this was a rhetorical question)
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
29 Aug 11 UTC
Part of this has to do with the fact that there has been such a constant shift in alliances. In addition, the shifting isn't over. An alliance has to hang around for a while for it to really be an alliance and so far, in the west, France and Germany have worked well together but a) there has been some clear tension between the two and b) things could change even as early as the next season. . In the east, there have been no alliances. It's been a veritable free-for-all

Lastly, I can't really comment on why certain alliances haven't formed because this depends more on the diplomacy part of it and if I comment about how x-country should be working with y-country, it's more apt to change the course of events and it's something I don't want to do. I want the diplomatic points to be what they are and try to stay out of telling someone what they should do in future seasons as much as I can--being vague where I am able.

Both fair questions however.
fortknox (2059 D)
29 Aug 11 UTC
I need to remark on the board, I know, but I wanted to put this out there:
TruNinja: "Reading the board is a vital part of good Diplomacy and I would put money on the claim that anyone in the top 100 in GR has the ability to read the board fairly well."
You should do what Tru & I are doing after every turn on every game. Know what is going on in the game. Put yourself in every country on the board. If you are turkey in 1902, you STILL want to know what england is doing. You can see what type of game he plays to know how to react to it late game if you guys meet.
Of course, if you are playing orathaic, you can just assume he'll do something completely random at completely random times. He is the craziest risk-taking I know, and is successful at it. To call him a wildcard is an understatement :)

And alliances? You'll find the greater the competition, the quicker the alliances change. TGM liked to comment on how a high level game you can never assume your alliance would last longer than 1 year.

And in this game, I can say that one alliance has lasted, but one of the players is tense about it, and the other is too lax. That can be a very dangerous dynamic.
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
29 Aug 11 UTC
+1 FK I tend to hold the opinion that the only alliances in the game of Diplomacy are those that you can force. If your opponent can stab you, they will. A stab occurs when one or more of the following conditions are met:

--Your opponent has more units closer or as close to your centers than you do
--Your opponent has no enemies but you are fighting currently engaged away from him
--Your opponent is gaining builds while you have none coming or you have disbands coming.
--There's a large separation between the number of units you have and the number he has

If you're in that situation, then you can expect that things might go sour and you need to anticipate that sort of thing. Look at their builds, look at their press (frequency as well as content) and look at the location of their units.
Pepijn (212 D(S))
29 Aug 11 UTC
A hurricane induced pause for 4-5 days has been requested.
Yonni (136 D(S))
29 Aug 11 UTC
Austria has requested a hurricane related pause. Just a heads up that we may be pausing for a few days.
Yonni (136 D(S))
29 Aug 11 UTC
Damn my timing.
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
30 Aug 11 UTC
As uncharacteristic as it is of me to comment on the builds, I will do so a little on this phase because there are some very interesting things that I see in the builds.

First off, neither France nor Germany built what I expected and this certainly declares their intended targets. France's interests are most obviously going to remain in the north with armies moving quickly to the German/French border because more units convoyed to the English Isle makes no sense and neither does an army move toward Italian soil without the necessary fleets for backing.

Germany will be in for a really rough ride since the fleet so far from the border indicates that his target was initially Russia and now with the Berlin army so far from his western line, he will be unable to stem the tide of French units moving toward the border. Beginning in the fall, I expect to see a French army in Picardy and Burgundy both and it is generally known that it takes 3 French units to hold the border and since a move to Pic and Bur would give him 4 units (including the fleet in the ENG) means that he will have a greater control of that edge of the zones. Germany's biggest benefit is that it can easily move Ber-Mun and Mun-Ruh to counter and the line would be locked but this does nothing for the French units along the waterways.

England: Love the army build in Edi. This will buy you some time if there's a F/G conflict, which I'm suspecting is the case, and you'll continue to survive under the German wing for quite some time.

In the south, everything was pretty much as I expected it to be.
fortknox (2059 D)
30 Aug 11 UTC
Those conditions of being stabbed do have exceptions, like when you are a stoolie for a major power just to survive, the SC balance will be massive, but as long as you are useful, you will be kept around. Of course, if the power has 16 SCs, and he's letting you survive with your 2, but your units are 4 moves away, you're dead and he wins (in other words, you should be working with the other people on the map)...
If there is a pause request out there, then I advise England to comply with it as per the rules of this tournament, especially if the request stems from a natural disaster
Cachimbo (1181 D)
31 Aug 11 UTC
FortKnox can probably intervene if need be, but I take it England will honour the request for a pause.
BenGuin (248 D)
31 Aug 11 UTC
sorry about that (and for breaking the no posting of Forum rule), but I was a bit occupied with Vdip... I rarely come on to Webdip... and also I'm moving in a few weeks so my house is a compete mess especially with two siblings (4 and 2) running around messing things up...
Its fine BenGuin, no harm was done.
☺ (1304 D)
01 Sep 11 UTC
bump
Scmoo472 (1933 D)
01 Sep 11 UTC
Should we have been writing an EOG for this? (I can write one up until now pretty easy. Just want to know if I should have been, so I can get started.)
Yes, EOG's are needed for all players in the SoW
Scmoo472 (1933 D)
01 Sep 11 UTC
Ok. I'll get started on mine then.
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
02 Sep 11 UTC
Seems to me like a EOG should wait until the end...?
Yes, but its best if they write it as they go. EOG's will be posted all at once when the game ends
Scmoo472 (1933 D)
04 Sep 11 UTC
Bump. Spring moves went through.
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
04 Sep 11 UTC
I'll have some commentary either some point tonight or Monday morning
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
05 Sep 11 UTC
S04 was pretty basic for a change. The west has strengthened and the east is finally beginning to coagulate. Ordinarily by now, one would expect to see both an eastern and western power out the door or close to it yet neither side has eliminated a player. Constant shifting has caused some distrust, particularly in the east and still in the west to some degree.

In the West:

#1 France: Initially, I had thought that France has essentially secured his position at the end of the game and should be switching from "how to draw" to "how to solo" mode with Germany at a close second. This season has changed some of that. His moves are obviously banking on a strong German ally with a retreat from the Channel and next to nothing along their shared border. This is the sort of setup that precedes a vicious stab and I firmly believe that whoever controls the Channel between E and F holds the most dominance and at this point, neither of them do. The Channel is France's gateway into German soil and a key staging point for defense. I wouldn't be surprised to see France at -1 unit at the end of this season.

#2 Germany: Although Germany's position isn't as secure as the French one, it's clear that F and G will continue to work together, meaning that Germany's next target will either be Russia or Austria/Italy, but one shouldn't rule out a French attack. Stabs are often made when one ally withdraws units from a secure position while expecting his ally to do the same under promises of continued cooperation and France has certainly done his part. The question is now going to be will Germany make the attack at London and cross the border, or maintain the alliance for a future stake elsewhere.

#3 England: Still hanging on but doing nothing. I understand that you're at the mercy of Germany, but you're not gaining much in the process. Under the wrong circumstances, you could be at 0 centers by the end of this year. Good luck.

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In the East

#1 Italy: Still the strongest country in the east, Italy stands to gain the most this season with a sure build at Venice and a possible second build coming to him. It's nice to finally see the army coming off Tunis, but I hope it's not too late since France has begun to filter armies around and Germany pushing south. If all goes well, we might be seeing an eastern power that can stand up to F or G and be a contender for a draw position at the end of the game. This season will lend strength to which of the two outcomes will take precedence.

#2 Russia: This spot was a tough one to call since there's been a lot of flip-flopping going on with allied partners. I think it was a good idea to regain the Turk as a friend and house-keeping has finally gotten to the point that Russia can begin looking for new soil, although the understandable loss of Smyrna will have to be replaced. Last, his position in the north allows for some measure of flexibility, I seriously doubt we will see the strong Russia that we saw last year.

#3 Austria: Not a very handsome position to be in, but nonetheless interesting. The loss of Vienna can be recouped but you're under way too many pressure points to be able to adequately concentrate on what to do this season. Germany pushing south, Italy pushing east and R/T working together means that there's a lot of bad news in Austrian air tonight. Certainly, he's going to be on the phone with Germany trying to convince him to stab France but if Germany doesn't bite, his only option is to push for any centers he can. In this situation, I tend to hold the belief that it can be better for you to stick your fingers into anyone's business that you can. Get units behind lines, into nooks and crannies and wherever they can cause the most damage and give you the most leverage with anyone you can.

#4 Turkey: Breathing once again! You've managed to talk your way out of the grave and stand to gain a build this season and at least one ally. Additionally, if there's a F/G, you're the only one not susceptible to its attacks and could net you a third position in a draw if you can manage to be useful enough and stick around. The biggest question you'll have to face, is what to build. Since you're crammed behind Bulgaria, an army isn't terribly helpful quite yet, but a fleet won't do you a great deal in the long run.


Things to look for:
In the West: Will there be a stab? It should be well-known to anyone who's solo'd a few times that in order to get to the magic 18, you have to cross the all-important stalemate line somewhere. For France, this has to be along Iberia and through the Mediterranean but for Germany, it's often along his southern border as well as through St Pete. Once these players have crossed their respective points and dug themselves into southern centers, the potential for a solo increases. If the two of them continue to work together, they move quickly across the line before anyone in the east can match the move but a solo will be difficult as long as they build pretty evenly. If a stab does occur, it will put one of them in the clear lead in terms of unit strength but they would have to forgo crossing the line for the moment. F04 will give the board more information to work with for the coming year and either one could see a build coming but one of them could also see a loss.

In the East:
Who's going to be the first man out? Italy could be facing the French while still working on Austria, Russia could be facing Austria and at -1 unit if things go bad, Turkey is on the upswing but still crammed in his corner and Austria is in a tight spot all around. One power should have been almost out the door by this point and if a F/G comes rolling by, it's going to wreck the east, especially under high-tension with no one able to really lay down a lot of trust for anyone else.
☺ (1304 D)
05 Sep 11 UTC
bump
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
06 Sep 11 UTC
bump again. FK, where'd ya go?
Scmoo472 (1933 D)
06 Sep 11 UTC
Fall moves went through already.
☺ (1304 D)
07 Sep 11 UTC
bump

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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
05 Dec 11 UTC
Will you be my friend?
I'm looking to start a game with people I haven't played before.
Game will be 36hour, WTA, low pot.
I reserve the right to not be friends with anyone I chose.
Post your interest below.
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rokakoma (19138 D)
08 Dec 11 UTC
Tigres et Diesel - EOG
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Babak (26982 D(B))
16 Nov 11 UTC
Something I have to share
Should be watched by as many people as possible. please share on your FB pages or email contact lists. Powerful and effective.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGR5UQJLQvU&list=PL75FD5B97013BAF01&index=6&feature=plpp_video
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
07 Dec 11 UTC
DNWC
diplomacy nations World Cup...

anyone else playing?
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Hugo_Stiglitz (100 D)
08 Dec 11 UTC
My Triumphant Return
Yes, after weeks of a harrowing work schedule (followed by months of forgetting my password here), I make my return.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HxYuCsj26s
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